I don't think trolls like you should be tagged for spreading falsehoods, but that's just my opinion.
Same here, I just exclude them in my trust list. I understand why some DT members do so (same for tagging alt accounts). There are currently ~80 DT members and only a hand full are being considered as part of "the gang". Those few members could easily be excluded (including Lauda) if they were actually acting maliciously like all these sad trolls are claiming. The way I see it that Theymos has created a decentralized trust system which will continue to grow with all the new inclusions. Perhaps these bad actors should stop complaining and try to contribute instead. And it will continue to be even more abusive than it is now the trust system. Talking about decentralization why are only a few people given power, more than decentralization this is just a communist run lobby. That is how I see it. Speaking as some one very familiar with Communist ideology, it is a spitting image of the Politburo complete with lack of accountability, unpersoning, and punishing dissidents who speak against "the party". |
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He's still claiming I harassed him on social media in spite of me not ever having any contact with him outside of this forum. I think he's either a pathological liar, or suffering from delusional episodes. Either way, the dude has some serious issues that shouldn't continue to be overlooked or enabled. It wasn't you but me contacting him on social media asking to validate that Vod from bitcointalk is his account. Of course no reply and silence. HARASSMENT! MUCH ABUSE! ... HELLO IS THIS THE IRS? |
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You two complaining about it is proof that it works quite well. Flawless logic as usual Suchgoon. |
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Plus China has been banning US companies such as google therefore there is nothing wrong for banning this Giant Tech even for no reason. This is a very good point I have seen no one addressing. China bans 3 international companies before breakfast every day and no one bats an eye... Suddenly when Chinese companies get banned it is a "travesty" and "unfair". |
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This shit's definitely gone too far. If only there was something else we could do, like maybe theymos could implement a forum feature allowing us to express our displeasure or even - gasp - distrust of certain individuals so that we wouldn't need 15 threads about each one.
The ability to exclude a person from your trust list harmed the trust system. Instead of holding a person accountable for including someone who should not be in their trust list, users now have the option of excluding the person who should not be in the trust network. When you add a person to your trust list, you are trusting both their ratings, and their trust list. If user "x" leaves a lot of good ratings, but has one bad person in their trust list, they should either remove the person from their trust list, or not be in your trust list. We have to suffer this bullshit for YEARS because Theymos is too embarrassed to admit he went too fucking far creating his little tool of personal retribution and refuses to admit his mistake. |
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I am sorry I didn't realize you were in charge of what I am allowed to discuss in a general thread about marketplace trust.
I did not say you are not allowed to discuss whatever you want, you are simply twisting my words hereHis other trick is to edit your quotes.  I would ask you to provide a single example, but we all know you are totally full of shit as usual and you will simply spend the whole time doing your little mentally ill clown dance to distract from that fact that you can't substantiate your claims. That scenario sounds familiar... |
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Just avoiding answers? It is the TECSHARE way after all.... Look, this has turned petty, as all conversations with you do. I'm ending it and you can just make up whatever words you want me to say.  I did answer you, you just didn't get the answer you wanted. You are making shit up. Also I have no responsibility to answer for anything OG did or did not do. Way to pretend to be the better man Vod, very convincing. I have the number for the ATF if you want to send any more government bureaucracies after anyone else who dares criticize you around here. |
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I am sorry I didn't realize you were in charge of what I am allowed to discuss in a general thread about marketplace trust.
I did not say you are not allowed to discuss whatever you want, you are simply twisting my words here, you directed something to me, I could have simply ignored you but I was nice enough to tell you that I don't like this general rambling you are trying to bring into the middle of a very specific discussion. And? Do you want a cookie? What is the point of even mentioning it? Do you really think I am going to let you dictate the topics I choose to discuss because you don't like it? This is a general thread about the trust system. Deal with it. |
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Nice selective editing of my quote. Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income? You should move to Canada . I didn't edit your quote Nice dramatics as usual, but put my name to words I did not post. Anyone can see for themselves you edited my post. Why is it OK for you that your friend OG misquotes everyone, including the administrator? Oh? You make up select rules for people you like/dislike? Then why constantly complain about that, hypocrite? Thanks for the reply bones. TECSHARE selectively chooses what he wants to answer. :/ No logical argument? Just start making shit up. It is the Vod way after all. |
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Nice selective editing of my quote. Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income? You should move to Canada . As usual you are totally full of shit. I didn't edit your quote, I added the rest of my quote which you selectively removed. The fact is that none of this is any of your fucking business to begin with and to pretend you did that for any reason other than to try to harass and intimidate OG in real life is a complete lie. Does the IRS kick down doors when you hide taxable income? You should move to Canada . No, they usually don't kick down someone's door, at first. They usually notify someone in writing If they want to do an audit, they usually ask in writing for the tax payer's cooperation. The only time they are going to kick in a door is when they want to arrest someone for tax evasion (I believe the FBI actually does this) or they are seizing someone's property. However, a person's case has to be rather far advanced for them to resort to such extreme measures. Well shit in that case I guess it is ok that Vod is trying to sick huge government bureaucratic steam rollers on people here when it is none of his business to begin with even IF it were true. I for one welcome our new East German Stazi forum overlords. |
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Isn't that kind of over thinking things (assuming you're correct). Why not a plague? Why not something that sterilizes humans? Like births drop 10% year over year for 8 years. That would solve the problem (if I understand your point - that the powers that be want to reduce the total human population.)
Primarily because they enjoy using systems that have multiple beneficial uses (for them). In this case it can allow for very specific targeting of dissidents etc. Biological warfare is messy, can mutate, and can get out of control very quickly. |
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I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him.
I see, so the fact that I posted that message is more of a problem than his duplicity and inability to have a conversation like an adult. Got it. You know what would have prevented that? Him willing to have a conversation about it, instead he chose to hide like a coward rather than explain himself.
Watch yourself peeps... Nice selective editing. Yeah pay no attention to the IRS kicking in your door, what is important is I posted a personal message in public! EDIT FOR REFERENCE: The actual post so people can read what was actually said since Vod is using the trust system as his personal play toy for retribution again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51187013#msg51187013 |
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This shit's definitely gone too far. If only there was something else we could do, like maybe theymos could implement a forum feature allowing us to express our displeasure or even - gasp - distrust of certain individuals so that we wouldn't need 15 threads about each one.
Yeah, why would you just voice your displeasure in a post and reserve the trust system for trust related matters like an adult instead of using it as a system to arbitrarily punish your enemies? WHAT A CONCEPT! I'm fine with that course of action too. It's the OP who seems to be unhappy with merely bitching about it and says "something must be done immediately". You are fine with that, as long as it is everyone else practicing it and you get to use these as tools of retribution for yourself and your pals right? GREAT IDEA! I will totally endorse this then not practice it at all! |
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I am not a big fan of discussing very general matters when there is a very specific subject to be discussed I am sorry I didn't realize you were in charge of what I am allowed to discuss in a general thread about marketplace trust. Every time Vod accuses OgNasty on the forum of harassing him on social media, OgNasty denies having done so. Either one of them is lying, or someone's having fun of impersonating OgNasty. It seems pretty overtly clear Vod has a years long pattern of lying to justify his abusive behavior so, I am not sure why this is not part of your calculation here. |
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Be careful what you send in PM, everyone. If you ignore people, they feel justified in posting your PMs. Well, a certain asshole, anyway. :/
Don't you have calls to make to government bureaucracies to try to get your opponents wrapped up in legal trouble as revenge or something? I didn't post his PM because he ignored me. I posted his PM because he acted friendly after I offered to help him, a day later he removes, blocks, and excludes me without explanation (for calling you out BTW), and then insinuates he had to do it because I was harassing him. Truly my crimes know no limits. Next time I will just report him to the IRS instead and everything will be cool  |
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This shit's definitely gone too far. If only there was something else we could do, like maybe theymos could implement a forum feature allowing us to express our displeasure or even - gasp - distrust of certain individuals so that we wouldn't need 15 threads about each one.
Yeah, why would you just voice your displeasure in a post and reserve the trust system for trust related matters like an adult instead of using it as a system to arbitrarily punish your enemies? WHAT A CONCEPT! |
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Why would be bother to confirm a rule that is not ambiguous?
I can confirm it's not ambiguous but then the explanation i presented is the valid one, so for the sake of not totally refusing to consider the other possibility, i will just call it ambiguous and needs to be "confirmed" Here are some of Theymos sent feedback   So unless theymos did trade 100,000.00000000 BTC with sirius or 10,000.00000000 BTC with gmaxwell then my theory is valid, and I highly do believe these numbers were never actually traded, thus the word "you" there is simply a poor choice of words , or Theymos does not follow his own guideline. You are making a mistake in assuming there are a set of rules that apply to everyone that govern this forum. The rules are whatever those in control say they are at any given time. We don't have rule of law here, we have might makes right. |
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Very pretty rifle. These are getting increasingly hard to find.
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Exclusions have nothing to do with me considering people a scammer, that's what the feedback system is for. I do not consider you a scammer but the fact that you publically post PMs makes me think that you are not trustworthy. Simple as that.
I don't think TECSHARE is a thief at all. In fact, if he wasn't such a cocksucker and didn't think the same of me, I would have no problem doing a bitcoin deal with him in which I sent bitcoin first. I don't think he'd run away with my money. The reasons he's excluded from my trust list are that he's shown poor judgement in his feedback-leaving history, which is the whole reason why he got booted off DT a few years ago, and that he's way too emotional (to the point of being unstable) when I've had disagreements with him. I had to block his PMs because be wanted to continue an argument in a thread that I didn't wish to continue, and he kept sending aggressive-toned PMs to me. And look at the neutral feedback he left me, and tell me it isn't aggressive: Just because you can't argue your points without personally attacking me is not my fault. You tell yourself whatever you like and block my messages. It doesn't change the fact that you are just a child throwing a fit because I hurt your frail little feelings by pointing out the flaws in your arguments. Of course if you simply just debated the subject none of this would be an issue now would it?
P.S. if I was threatening you, you would know it. That was in 2016, and here he is, still arguing with people the exact same way. Meanwhile, I think I've mellowed a lot since then (occasional outbursts aside). In any case, this is probably why a lot of other DT members have excluded TECSHARE from their trust lists. Oh I left you a neutral! HOW ABUSIVE! Please stop pretending this is about my judgment and not just your personal panties in a bunch over your inability to have a debate about a subject concerning the entire forum, and you being butt hurt I left you a neutral rating over it. I don't think you are a cocksucker, and even if I did frankly you probably suck the least cock of all the cocksuckers I consider cocksuckers. IMO your behavior has improved and you are starting to see the big picture here, but you are still a little confused as to who the real enemies are. Currently I think you have good intentions but are simply misguided. You are right, that was in 2016, and you still have your panties in a bunch over it? Who is unstable here? The freedom I am referring to is being able to be critical of the default trust priest class without the punitive punishment of exclusion as punishment for doing so. No one is free to speak or be critical of the Default Trust Stazi here any more, your continual slander of me for doing nothing more than speaking critically is just further evidence of it. All of those retards are just convenient tools for you to dismiss legitimate criticisms and pretend it is all the same. The primary difference between myself and them is you don't have the convenient option of just labeling me as a scammer so you have to try to lump me in with "trolls".
That is simply not true. I don't need to label you in any way or even justify my exclusion of you. It's just that you don't like being excluded and you're trying to come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories to make it seem like the reason is not your own behavior. If anything, being constructively critical of the trust system would be a good reason for me to include someone, and I've done so on a couple of occasions. I would consider including you if you weren't such an unstable hypocritical knucklehead. You throw lots of labels at me, funny no one ever is able to point at any specific circumstances where I went too far. If they do it always seems to be a standard that they are willing to apply to me but not their special pals. It is always some nebulous label, they wave their hands, say abracadabra and call it justified. ~snip~
Is that so? Maybe some one should tell that to the 13 cult members excluding me because they don't like my criticism of their pals. I am sure the long list of people on the list no one has ever heard of are far more trustworthy. My crimes are too numerous to count after all. Have you at least considered the possibility that all exclusions in their trust list are all from individual encounters and from different reasons? Like from what @TheNewAnon135246 is telling us he has a different reason why you have been removed from his trust list he didn't plan with anybody else to exclude you he has his own reason why he did it and not one of it is to gang up on you. Have you ever considered that these people are simply taking signals from The Default Trust Stazi Squad, consciously or otherwise, and are influenced to do things like this over minor issues because they have collectively crafted a false narrative? They do it all the time. Watch any time one of the chosen gets into trouble, the whole team rolls in to defend them from criticism attempting to burn anyone down that points the issue out at any cost. |
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If you deal with this user you will get burned, and I will tag you as well. Again, I have no love for Quickseller, but now Lauda is proscribing who is allowed to deal with who around here? When I say this place is turning into a digital version of East Germany the comparison becomes more appropriate every day. These are literal Communist tactics of unpersoning. You guys are cool with this trend? You think it won't affect you because you are "one of the boys"? It just hasn't been your turn yet... it will be. I can say who I like and who I don't... Start publicly criticizing one of the priest class and see how long you still believe that. This constant grievance posting is a direct result of everyone ignoring these abuses and is only going to continue to increase because everyone wants to bury their head in the sand and pretend there is no basis for these complaints. |
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