First of all, you are just repeating your poor argument from before that I already addressed. Second of all, you are mischaracterizing the statement. It is common for people to MISIDENTIFY the identity of individuals they witnessed. It is not common for people to imagine they saw people that never existed to begin with. The statement is referring to false identification, not imagining non-existent people. If your argument was about mistaken identity you might have a point, but you are projecting your own meaning on to words the authors never intended to imply. According to science huh? Now you speak for the field of science? How exactly does the fact that you have seen "plenty of news" invalidate witness testimony? Do you ever wonder why you are so hostile over anyone asking questions about a mass murder? It couldn't be cognitive dissonance could it?

Contempt of Court, Taser, and the Missing Evidence - Las Vegas Shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pohyq0IYo4M

Thats right, the two have nothing (very little) to do with each other. The premise of the thread itself is a non-sequitur, but a common concept that is understandable as it is so popular to shit on faith of any kind now days.

It has nothing to do with my approval. Your own actions and statements are contradictory of themselves. You don't want to make the effort to participate in building the trust system, but you still want to participate in it when it serves you, free of criticism of course.

Non-religious people criticize science too. The field of science itself is based on the perpetual criticism and examination of its methodologies. Some times people make bad arguments against some scientific ideas, but that doesn't make all criticisms of science invalid, or anyone who is religious incapable of making a valid critical argument related to science.

Hhampuz, you said you wanted to be excluded from the DT 1 and 2, which tells me you do not want to participate in the system, yet here you are leaving ratings. Which is it? Either you are out or you are in, you don't get to have a special boy class where you have one foot in and one foot out. If you want to participate in the trust system accept the responsibilities that come along with it, or mind your own business like you claim you wanted.

Women already pay less taxes than men: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926

Just because Bob123 happened to be correct after the fact does not mean he had any ability to know if these accounts were hacked or legitimately acquired beforehand. Again to summarize...

Lying = not a flaggable offense

Forming a contract you don't keep = flaggable offense

Solution? Don't form contracts you don't intend to keep, even with scumbags. If contracts don't also apply to scumbags they don't apply to any of us.

*entered into a contract with intent to deceive and take rights of another user.

If he was just lying there would be no flag. He formed a contract with intent to defraud and destroy value. He had no way of knowing if the accounts were legitimately obtained or not. The ends do not justify the means. They are both wrong.

I think this is the most reasonable course of action. Not everyone knows the details of Livecoin's issues, and not all of them deserve to be collectively punished via the trust system as a result of this. However individual users have every right to not want to deal with users because of this and this is basic free association. This is the right way to influence the community, social pressure combined with economic pressure via free association, not just hitting them with a stick (or in this case a button). This gives people choices instead of just metering out arbitrary deterrent penalties using the trust system, which has other detrimental effects.

Seems like a little bit of butt hurt over being pressured out of managing them to me.

And? Your argument is a non-sequitur. We are talking about immigration policy, not the military. I don't have to support or oppose the status quo to make my argument, the fact is, it is. Your "what ifs" are meaningless and a diversion from the topic.

Resources are finite, and are in fact stretched thin as well as being poorly allocated. Your goal is irrelevant. You might have a goal of trimming your hair with a blowtorch, but the fact is the most likely scenario is you will set your head on fire. The fact that you intended just to trim your hair is irrelevant because your methodology is flawed. No one deserves anything, "what people deserve" is a bullshit metric which is totally meaningless and arbitrary. You have a right to free speech. You do not have a right to food, the property and work of others AKA a commodity. You have a right to defend yourself and your property using firearms if need be. You do not have a right to healthcare, which is again composed of the property, time, and resources of others. You have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You do not have a right to education, which is once more composed of the property and time of others. Are you noticing a theme here? Actual rights restrict the government or other individuals from acting upon you in certain ways. Rights are not entitlements to property, resources, and the time of others. Having rights to the time of others is also known as slavery. Coincidentally that is the end result of your moronic Marxist policies once they inevitably reach their end point of degradation and a functional society again needs to be rebuilt in its ashes after great bloodshed.

Again, your theoretical potential long term unproven and not guaranteed long term benefits are meaningless. Your head could technically turn into a mushroom, but this is neither guaranteed nor likely. You simply declaring it as such is just your fantasizing about what could be, coincidentally that is if the laws of economics magically don't apply. You lecture me about "the big picture" while you obsess over alleviating short term suffering at the expense of the destruction of the foundations of our society itself. You are chopping off your feet and stacking them on your head because you think it makes you look taller, then you bleed to death a few minutes later because of your short shortsightedness. I always cared about education and healthcare, that is why I think people like you should be kept as far away as possible from being involved in these kind of policy decisions, because your ideology is a cancer on society.

Marxism is a tumor fed by good the intents by masses of ignorant and easily manipulated people. It is a form of collective narcissism where these ignorant masses, devoid of any kind of meaning in their life, seek to create it by advocating for causes which superficially sound great. The unfortunate truth is that these people are devoid of meaning because they don't want to actually spend actual effort learning about these subjects, and simply regurgitate what people who they perceive as having authority have told them to. Then they all stand around and reassure each other of how good and correct they all are in their ideology. In short they want to feel good about themselves while exhibiting the minimal amount of effort.

The USA already takes in more immigrants than any country on Earth. "making it easier" is just a euphemism for making illegal immigration legal. It is illegal for MANY good reasons. The economy is not imaginary. The culture of the USA is not imaginary. Neither of those things, among others, can be maintained without enforcing a national border. Again, you just find another way to call me selfish and racist by another name. "points of view" are not racist. Ideas can not practice racism. People do. This is just another pathetic crutch that people like you must use because you lack any actual argument to defend your position, therefore you must attack the character of your opponent by associating them with "undesirables".
The USA was a much different place when Ellis Island was open, furthermore even there they had a process where people were quarantined and documented, and numbers incoming controlled. Illegal immigration is illegal for good reasons, I don't advocate enforcing our borders just because it is the law. Nice invocation of the Nazis you slipped in there BTW, always a sign of a strong argument.






No one here is advocating getting rid of all immigrants. The title clearly says "illegal immigrants". You, much like most of the modern Marxist left try to conflate illegal immigration with all immigration in a pathetic attempt to relate the issue to racism or xenophobia rather than economics, laws, and a functional society we all benefit from. Tell me some more about logic as your own statements are completely vacant of it.

If you are so worried about your ratings, I can leave you one like you left me because you can't handle people disagreeing with you

Does anyone have any information on motives? Is this a disgruntled employee or maybe some one who objects to what they publish? This also proves one thing, we need common sense gasoline control laws.

What the fuck are you talking about? US military an intelligence services are trying to feed, house, and medically treat everyone on Earth? Yeah, k. These people have come here to escape POVERTY and they are illegally abusing the ASYLUM process designed for people ACTUALLY escaping conflict in order to migrate here for ECONOMIC reasons. Not enforcing out nations borders is wholly irresponsible, and the situation of other nations and its resident nationals is NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE USA. Just allowing millions of impoverished people to flood in is not going to help them and it certainly is not going to help the already existing residents of the USA, and fuck you for putting them above everyone already here as you wag your finger bathed in your self righteousness. It is easy to be generous with every one else's resources isn't it?

Our resources aren't stretched thin? Is this the kind of economic genius you applied to calling anyone who makes more than $300k a year "super wealthy". Don't have any argument? Just lie and pretend there is no problem, problem solved. I am sure the teachers teaching overfilled classes filled with illegal immigrant children would agree we have plenty of resources. I am sure the millions of homeless already here on the streets would agree our resources aren't stretched thin as well. Fuck everyone who needs help already here right? It is your right to take those collective resources and hand them out to people who never paid into our system! After all, you think any form of nationalism is fascist, so the nation should fall according to you shouldn't it? Also it makes you feel generous, and that is what is most important, that you feel good about yourself right?

Emotions are not a substitute for logic, and you can't make every decision based on "what would be the best direct result to inflate MY ego and make ME feel most generous?" This isn't just what is best for me, this is what is best for the whole fucking country, and fuck you very much with your moral grand standing. I never said anything about "all immigrants", here you are purposely conflating all immigration with illegal immigration again to try to turn this into a race issue. First of all it is a fact illegal immigrants take more from they system than they put in. A FACT. It has nothing to do with race or even nationality. Second of all, xenophobia is just a synonym for racism, so again, you are just calling me racist because I think our nation should have borders that are enforced.


Who the fuck is "they"? Most people who don't like illegal immigration aren't angry at illegal immigrants. If they are angry at anyone they are angry at people like YOU being so magnanimous and generous with all of our collective resources on their behalf. Is it really generous if you are giving away something some one else sacrificed for or are you just a destructive virtue signalling narcissist encouraging this rightfully illegal activity?

Xenophobe is just a synonym for racist. Because I want to live in a nation with laws and borders doesn't make me racist or xenophobic. Thinking that Canadians are a race does make you pretty ignorant though. Your salt filled reply demonstrates your lack of self control and overriding emotional motivations. You have a hard time coping with people disagreeing with you and resort to attacks in lieu of a logical argument. This is not a good look for some one who is supposed to maintain impartiality in a subforum where one would be most tempted to abuse these motivations.

See people with common sense know this, but this is something Marxists lack. It is well known that uncontrolled immigration will erode the native culture if it is too rapid, displacing it with the culture of the immigrating parties. According to Marxists though all cultures are equal and none are better than any other cultures (especially if you are American or European), and any claim otherwise is bigoted, racist, white supremacist, Fascist, etc. All this is is Critical Theory in play on a national level. These immigrants are victims therefore it is acceptable to victimize the native American and European populations because that will make them more equal with the victim immigrants.

It is akin to having two children, and one breaks their toy, and then cries for the other child's toy to be broken so they are both equal. Execpt rather than toys we are talking about the well being of nations and its existing populations present and future. The fact is there is something inherently better about American and European culture, that is why a large portion of the world wants to be there. The problem is if this migration is not controlled allowing people time to assimilate, it will destroy the very foundation of what makes it great.

Your total lack of self awareness and ability for projection is amazing. Either that or you are completely disingenuous. This is classic "accuse your opponent of the crimes you yourself are guilty of", is right out of the Nazi propaganda tactics as well as Saul Alinski's Rules For Radicals. Your entire argument was a semantic one with no logical basis, then you accuse me of using semantics as a defense. This may work on people with low levels of awareness and low intelligence such as yourself, but it doesn't work for everybody.