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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 14, 2014, 12:49:06 AM
I take it you can only vote once on this site?

Once per IP address, so phone and computer should give you two votes.  If you have a VPN maybe you can run the total up?

Looks like we are already added.  Smiley

Ooooh.  This was a triumph and huge success!
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 14, 2014, 12:38:00 AM
Something is definintely not right with bitinfocharts...

http://bitinfocharts.com/x11coin/nodes-active/

It's saying there's only 5 active nodes?

Has to be something wrong...I can't be the only one with an open wallet. 

deffo something wrong lol. i know im not the only person in the uk with an open wallet.

I have 4 wallets running already in 2 different countries.... so how could that be?
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 14, 2014, 12:10:34 AM


Just seen this image on reddcoins forum. We need to up our game. even though we have far less nodes in total, we could be winning this if we all had them running.

I have an older version of a windows wallet on my puta. Should I download a new one? Or can I update the old one?
What is the best way?


Hmm..

Looks different at

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!network




Something is definintely not right with bitinfocharts...

http://bitinfocharts.com/x11coin/nodes-active/

It's saying there's only 5 active nodes?
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 06:58:33 AM
Wasn't haven a go at anyone we just don't want to bring there supporters over here starting a fight is all I thinking Grin

Me neither, but I could not help it that time....

There's a difference between starting a fight and stand your ground.

The XC community didn't start anything.   We were there to clear up what is clearly a blatant lie if not slandering.   If their dev was not anon, but rather a dev with a real name like our dev, do you think they would start such crap?  They are what is known as Internet tough guys.  
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: mammothcoin: is it legit? on: August 13, 2014, 06:38:25 AM
1) Mammothcoin has to be the worst name for a cryptocurrency I have ever heard of.

2) Supercoin was Rejected from Poloniex under suspicion that it has a Hidden Premine.


That's all that needs to be said.
True, those two points say stay away and have no dilemma.

Supercoin dev have confirmed that they are "co"developers.     They quickly deleted their response, but luckily i quoted it before that happened.   If you need confirmation that he did post this, you will need to ask an admin....


We are co developers. Otherwise it takes more time to bring about such a unique technology. I wonder why you suddenly appear and questioning. It's long time we did not see any fud. You should feel something threating you. Let us know what makes you afraid so?


They have deleted all my posts showing the following screenshot and the questions along with it.

Hmmm so that screenshot...


1. Is Mammothcoin and supercoindev the same dev?
2. If not, who was the lazy dev that just stole that screenshot and pretended a transaction was logged?  (Supercoindev or you)





You should definitely watch out for Mammothcoin and Supercoin dev.     Shady is the cleanest word I can think of.

366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 06:33:01 AM
We should probably chill out over in the mammoth thread now lol, we put him in his place, time to take the high road.

Uh my post was pretty neutral and fair I thought...  Guess what. it was lumped together with others as "fudstorm" and got neutered...  Figures

But wait, here is a screen shot lol


 Grin  Grin  Grin



Supercoindev and Mammothcoin dev is confirmed to be linked and possibly the same dev.   He deleted his response really quickly.  They are pretty much scam from the looks of it.

We are co developers. Otherwise it takes more time to bring about such a unique technology. I wonder why you suddenly appear and questioning. It's long time we did not see any fud. You should feel something threating you. Let us know what makes you afraid so?
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 06:27:42 AM
^^

Yeah they mentioned a few times in the Supercoin thread that super/mamm shared the same multisig tech.

Don't know why they'd work on two coins touting the same feature simultaneously... Scam city?

When there's smoke, there's fire....   It totally smell like a scam.    Supercoin dev claims that they are the "first" p2p decentralized coin and also bashed Dan.    Now, Mammothcoin dev comes out firing also?  

To get free advertisement? Seem desperate! Cheesy


Ok, supercoindev has admitted that they are co-developers.   He QUICKLY deleted his response, but I quoted him before he deleted it.

We are co developers. Otherwise it takes more time to bring about such a unique technology. I wonder why you suddenly appear and questioning. It's long time we did not see any fud. You should feel something threating you. Let us know what makes you afraid so?
368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPERCOIN]First P2p Decentralized Trustless Anonymous Wallet Coming Soon on: August 13, 2014, 06:26:23 AM
We allowed mammoth team to use our graphics. Stop fud! If you want to be licensor you need to PM us.

Thanks for answering.   So, what's the reason to let them use it if it supposedly shows one of your anon transaction?
We are co developers. Otherwise it takes more time to bring about such a unique technology. I wonder why you suddenly appear and questioning. It's long time we did not see any fud. You should feel something threating you. Let us know what makes you afraid so?

How is it fud when I am asking you questions based on posted facts from both you and Mammothcoin dev?   Which part of it do you "fear"?   The question was simple....   2 coins, same screenshot.   Why should you fear anything if you are not hiding anything?

I think you will only feel the fear part of FUD when there is something to fear. 

Sharing screenshots like that which take under 1 second to make using prtscr and and imgur is really questionable at best if the answer is to save "time"...? 

You can't blame people when you guys got lazy and decided to share something that is supposed to be unique to your coin.   We are not talking about a generic screenshot here.   This was supposed to be a successful anon transaction.   We are all living through scam coins after scam coins now.   If you don't want people to question, don't be lazy next time?!?!   Simple, right?!

369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPERCOIN]First P2p Decentralized Trustless Anonymous Wallet Coming Soon on: August 13, 2014, 06:18:53 AM
We allowed mammoth team to use our graphics. Stop fud! If you want to be licensor you need to PM us.

Thanks for answering.   So, what's the reason to let them use it if it supposedly shows one of your anon transaction?
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 06:01:47 AM
^^

Yeah they mentioned a few times in the Supercoin thread that super/mamm shared the same multisig tech.

Don't know why they'd work on two coins touting the same feature simultaneously... Scam city?

When there's smoke, there's fire....   It totally smell like a scam.    Supercoin dev claims that they are the "first" p2p decentralized coin and also bashed Dan.    Now, Mammothcoin dev comes out firing also?   

I am 99% sure they are scammers.   He deleted my post showing the screenshot.   Warn everyone you know.   Mammothcoin is a complete scam.
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 05:53:53 AM
^^

Yeah they mentioned a few times in the Supercoin thread that super/mamm shared the same multisig tech.

Don't know why they'd work on two coins touting the same feature simultaneously... Scam city?

When there's smoke, there's fire....   It totally smell like a scam.    Supercoin dev claims that they are the "first" p2p decentralized coin and also bashed Dan.    Now, Mammothcoin dev comes out firing also?   
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPERCOIN]First P2p Decentralized Trustless Anonymous Wallet Coming Soon on: August 13, 2014, 05:48:13 AM
Hmmm so that screenshot...


1. Is Mammothcoin and supercoindev the same dev?
2. If not, who was the lazy dev that just stole that screenshot and pretended a transaction was logged?  (Mammothcoin dev or you)



373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 05:43:56 AM
We should probably chill out over in the mammoth thread now lol, we put him in his place, time to take the high road.

Well unless you see something funny....   like this...


Hmmm so that screenshot...


1. Is Mammothcoin and supercoindev the same dev?
2. If not, who was the lazy dev that just stole that screenshot and pretended a transaction was logged?  (Supercoindev or you)



374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 02:31:00 AM
Something I noticed on Mintpal that is really peculiar...

The change % of XC is mostly in the negative even if our 6/24 hours don't change much.

The change % of Cloak is mostly ALWAYS positive even though they have dropped like a rock in the last 24 hours (110k -> 79k)

Is Mintpal trying to artificially make some coins look good/bad?!?!  This is not the first day that I have noticed this by the way.

Just coincidence. Mintpal does stat resets at same time each day


That doesn't make sense...   why is the stats not on a 24hr basis but on their own "reset" schedule?
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 02:21:07 AM
Something I noticed on Mintpal that is really peculiar...

The change % of XC is mostly in the negative even if our 6/24 hours don't change much.

The change % of Cloak is mostly ALWAYS positive even though they have dropped like a rock in the last 24 hours (110k -> 79k)

Is Mintpal trying to artificially make some coins look good/bad?!?!  This is not the first day that I have noticed this by the way.
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 02:16:47 AM
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A coin that have long POW does not necessarily means it's easier to get the coins.... just look at Bitcoin.   You think it's easy to mine Bitcoin?   You might as well buy it from the exchange, otherwise, the ASIC you are getting will never allow you to see ROI.   So, what's the difference between buying Bitcoin from and exchange and buying XC from an exchange??!?!?   Nothing.

Actually there is.  Mining it means that energy is being spent on creation of the coins (mining) vs rewarding the owners (PoS) + making sure all new minted coins go to existing holders.  Not people who've spent their money on mining equipment.  

Humans are driven by greed.   The minted coins will get dumped still and distributed.    

With Bitcoins, the people that are getting rich off it are the ASIC companies (shovel sellers).    
With PoS coins, the money stays within the system (as in the coins market either btc or alt coins).
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 02:10:13 AM
Well for what it's worth I REALLY did mean what I said about consensus.  My biggest issue with crypto right now is exactly that - consensus.  With no consensus people trying to use it as money will get screwed over and over again when it loses all it's value (consensus).  Then second is the pyramid scheme.  It took me (longer) to come to this conclusion than it should've (and losing way more money than I wanted to).

But the fact is - that bitcoin slows distribution even while adoption grows.  Which heavily heavily discourages use of bitcoin as a currency IF you think adoption will grow.  In other words - "bitcoin is like money that I pay with except that if I pay with it now and twice as many people use it next year then it will be worth 2X as much".  On top of that - mining halves.  So if you assume that bitcoin is a currency (representation of energy) that is worth something along the lines of (# of adopters / difficulty to get bitcoin) then when it halves it further drives up the value of early adopters.  Not to even mention the mining difficulty / slice of the pie distribution method. (I'm sure all of this has been discussed somewhere).

But PoS (IMO) takes this problem and makes it worse.  If I want an XC coin - I have to buy it from you.  I can't mine it.  Then I have to hope the next guy is willing to pay more.  It's even more of a pyramid scheme than bitcoin.  In addition to that ... like I said before.

Currency = consensus.  This is why bitcoin is really the only thing trying to be a currency (albeit a pyramid currency).  When things are widely recognized as a transfer / store of energy or resources THEN they can be a currency.  But what we have is people putting their money into stuff they hopes turns into a currency ... then lose it all in a few weeks.  

This mindset creates the unstable markets we see and the high unlikely (due to the economics and competition being set up in such a way to make it unlikely that 1 XC will be worth anything in six months unless new money continues to pour in).  So most people thinking "Oh ... this could be a currency some day" WILL be left sitting with an empty bag while the speculators continue to bounce around.  Until the distribution is fixed.  And a broader consensus is formed around a coin.  

I feel the entire structure of everything (PoS is worse) directly discourages long term adoption or an actual "currency".  So there you have my rambling thoughts.  If XC were really good at what it did (which I have my doubts as to it being the best looking into Cryptonote ... they just need to solve bloat).  But IF it were - then tokens being rewarded to nodes that provide private communication is a completely different ecosystem than the PoS (& to lesser extent PoW) pyramid scheme.  AND it would help solve the problem we have with TOR - notably that the NSA can fund these nodes and if they get enough of them (and since nodes don't have any way of breaking even or making money - and the NSA has a huge budget they probably are) they can begin to crack privacy.

If you find a way to reward the nodes.  You solve the NSA problem.  

Sorry for the rambly post.  


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I hope you change your mind about XC, buy some, and then pay dadon his winnings on your bet from your XC profits!  Grin Grin
lolol

A coin that have long POW does not necessarily means it's easier to get the coins.... just look at Bitcoin.   You think it's easy to mine Bitcoin?   You might as well buy it from the exchange, otherwise, the ASIC you are getting will never allow you to see ROI.   So, what's the difference between buying Bitcoin from and exchange and buying XC from an exchange??!?!?   Nothing.
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Let's close ANN-section for 14 days to calm down the crazy? on: August 13, 2014, 12:18:07 AM
Or... don't mine or invest in scam coins?

Logic right?
379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 13, 2014, 12:09:09 AM
People with their subtle ways of pumping other coins in our thread now.   Teka... don't you think those pretending to be here talking about other "undervalued" coins should be nuked?
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: August 12, 2014, 07:22:34 PM
Hi Guys,

I don't know if this allready has been discussed, but...
Why is XCurrency not reviewed on the Coinssource trust-index? http://www.coinssource.com/trust-index/
We were, after all, one of the first coins with POD.
Anyways, I requested for verification here http://www.coinssource.com/trust-index-verification/

They are more than welcome to do a review but there is absolutely no point. Obviously that's just my opinion.

I agree... other coins need it to make themselves look "legit".   We all know XC is already legit with the team we have.
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