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4161  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.
Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

He's a bcasher. Which fits with my general impression of him. That makes him, at best, a useful idiot.
+1 WOsMerit

Think that about sums it up. Its all about the stolen brand identity and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place. Need it be more than that?
4162  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 19, 2018, 06:24:52 PM
https://twitter.com/sseagalofficial/status/965635047230406657

Serious wtf here..   https://bitcoiin2gen.pr.co/163919-zen-master-steven-seagal-has-become-the-brand-ambassador-of-bitcoiin2gen?reheat_cache=1

More celebs going off the deep end...any idea who the hand is in the sock here?



Downvoted the vid and closed it just from the way he looks and the first two seconds. What a fucking creep.

The CEO of BCash?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Falkvinge

4163  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 04:36:16 PM
Your subsequent explanation seems to concede that we are in the early stages of bitcoin's adoption; however,  I conclude, to my own health detriment, that your chart seems to suggest that we are past the hype cycle in BTC and all matters are downhill from here.. I can see it visually on your chart.   And, from my perspective, I doubt that we are going downhill from here whether we are talking about hype or we are talking about adoption, or we are talking about development or we are talking about financial.
I thought we were just, you know..talking..but if you want to break down each of those...by all means.

I tend to take a holistic approach when discussing the future, bitcoin and technology JJG. They will all be massively integrated. That chart is just an illustration of hype cycles and how long after something is hyped that it ramps up to productivity.
You did notice that each of the iconography placed on the perceived bubble is also a representation in time right? So our lovely bitcoin blockchain is just cresting over the hype bubble but the full productivity plateau is still several years into the future.

This is just hype..not price...not adoption...ok?  All these other things do have correlation..but that is not what my point was. It was forcasting that even tho we we are at the top of hype or just past it that all the good things are still coming...is that spelled out clear enough now?

#btfd
4164  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 05:19:52 AM
You drunk fuck..have another.   Cheesy

I clearly spoke of each..well..I clearly implied something about each but I think you misunderstood me. That chart is not a financial graph..its purely about excitement over time. You could say that there is apparent correlation between hype and price but that really wasn't where I was going. Its about when something becomes popular and how long after that fact something useful is developed. I was using the example between the two charts to illustrate how early we really are...still. As far as bitcoin and blockchain..what ever..I get that..they are different. You can yell at me louder if you wish if thats what you want to do tho...
4165  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 03:43:29 AM
Yeah, you raised me into a near total state of bewilderment in my attempt to understand what your chart means in terms of Bitcoin price discussion and analysis, and what is the significance of the bear warning?

Seems to me that we got's ourselves no bears hanging around in these here territories.. They all be hiding under the cupboards, but surely they will be back to spread a little naysaying bear doo doo as soon at there is any kind of sign of this bad boy slowing down.  When?  I have hardly any clue, as usual, but looking good to me, and looking really good.


Confusion can be a nice broth to stew ones brain in on occasion...but I dare not chance damaging you so I will relent. The bear sign was to announce jbreher of course...should be pretty simple there...maybe a touch melodramatic...but effective none the less. It was but a jest in reality.

The other is much more significant if you care to delve into it. As hype about innovation crests over the peak on it move towards the productivity plateau you can clearly see where we are at with blockchains. The hype about bitcoin arriving is past us now..heading towards that plateau ahead of us in the future. But look what is trailing..how many of these upcoming innovations will need bitcoin and the blockchain to fully realize their potentials? A great many I say..all those next gen apps that we are just now dreaming up use cases for. Whether it be peer to peer decentralized immutable ledgers like bitcoin or permissioned one used for controlling autonomous vehicles lets say. The shear amount of "things" that will benefit from this literally boggles my mind man...

4166  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:57:37 AM


JJG..I see your chart and raise you sir.



4167  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:13:18 AM
Reminds me of my new drinking game. Every morning there isn't a spectacular crashy pull back I take a shot.
Good job you can still remember it!

I'm honestly beginning to fear that my retirement years are going to be spent running out first thing in the morning for a covfefe and 6 pack of beer, and loafing in this thread all day.

There are worse fates..
Managing a crypto estate is like work..at least for now. In the future it will become mostly automated thru sentient AI's and not nearly such a burden.
4168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 18, 2018, 01:03:03 AM
*sniff*  *sniff*   something in the air..
4169  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 11:27:32 PM
I was hoping to start simmering around 11.5-11.75 for the rest of the weekend and then breakout to 12.2k Monday. But there is going to be some volatility in this range it looks like. Which as it happens is just what is needed...churn the badger pls.   Lots of shorts getting squeezed...hang in here.
4170  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 11:13:03 PM
4171  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 11:01:10 PM



Shorts are closing. This time?


Walls are tumbling down Cool
Quote
"100bil USD - You can begin..."


Im in..though I must admit I did pause slightly at basted bellybutton.
4172  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 09:58:40 PM
this thread is sucking dog balls right now

wtf?



(still)Waiting for 12.2

4173  Economy / Speculation / Re: Global Crypto Bear Market on: February 17, 2018, 07:44:16 PM
Why I see a global crypto bear market coming:

1. Charting: Wrong
2. Altcoin and ICO bubble : Really wrong
3. Psychologically : Omfg were you wrong.


/thread
4174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 07:06:36 PM
My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do.

https://youtu.be/PWU9g1Fce3U?t=1m14s
You deserve your 50 merits for the game theory link, mister Toxic. I am eternally grateful for it. But this is not an effective jab.

Yea...weak sauce.  Just woke...one cup of coffee...and you going off about eugenics. Give me a few moments to craft a respectable rebuttal would you? 

Your statement seems so counter intuitive at first glance..what to make of it..hmm.

We have spent the last million or so years evolving for the very purpose of physical labor...and you suggest that in less than a few hundred years all that is lost?  The evolutionary path of hunter/gather's predicates periods of inactivity followed by massive bursts of exertion. exempli gratia, The tribe would stalk and chase prey for many miles before cornering, trapping or driving off cliffs. This pattern is found through out the food chain really..only in humans recent history has exertion for pleasure(i.e. exercise)become a thing. You dont see many apex predators besides homo sapien out jogging or doing yoga do you? No, they conserve energy until it is necessary to use. Its different how we go about work today in modern times. Work is toil, not the social interaction it once was.
4175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 05:19:39 PM
My basic life thesis is that humans are not biologically and psychologically designed to work nearly as much as we do.

https://youtu.be/PWU9g1Fce3U?t=1m14s
4176  Economy / Speculation / Re: Debunking the waste of energy argument against Bitcoin on: February 17, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
I´m tired of hearing the argument "but Bitcoin wastes more energy than
a whole country..."
Most of it has to due with lack of education about what it takes to secure a PoW blockchain and why you would want to. I think basic laws of conservation and thermodynamics will point the way forward. Miner swarms will be placed in LEO's and will be powered via solar energy. Ground based farms will also be powered via microwave transmissions sent from the orbital solar arrays. It will take awhile..but we will get there.


*edit*

https://youtu.be/lp5Yx34SO58?t=19m28s
4177  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 04:15:31 PM
I read in the initial post which charting sites that can be used for this thread. Tradingview was not listed. Can this be added?  Can I post a chart from tradingview even through it is not on the list?
Yes, yes and yes.  Will it...no idea...infofront stay up on this thread pretty well..If he dosent like it you will know.
4178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 07:10:50 AM

EIP 867.  Allowing Devs to make state changes, to fix the Parity hack.  Its DAO all over again.  Also partly explains the pick up in ETC, in addition to Callisto. 

https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/pull/867

I thought they were having meetings and learning how to sing kumbaya?

I thought I saw some RT from/about Vitalik going around earlier too. Not sure what it was but basically a quote saying he could not remain neutral. So I guess immutability is a thing after all? 
4179  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 06:39:01 AM
breakout



4180  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2018, 06:21:21 AM


Obligatory for the crushing of the upcoming 11k wall.
+10 WOsMerits airdrop for all..f#ck it.
Carry on.
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