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921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [JUST IN] Grayscale wins lawsuit against the SEC on: August 30, 2023, 05:35:37 AM
I know this is good news but won’t this be bearish in the near future. If the GBTC etf is confirmed then people will buy the GBTC and short the actual bitcoin until it launches. By shorting they hedge their position which should be balanced by the end.

And the fund will be unlocked and the 600K will be released into the market again. So there will be more supply. Most likely nobody will use GBTC due to high fees and with blackrock etf begin live also.

Why should they make it more difficult for themselves. The ETF is bullish. What they should do is buy spot bitcoin and short the futures market if they want a hedge against their spot buy without reducing their exposure.

@Husires. What is that indicator? Is that forks price vs. bitcoin?

In any case, the pump at present might only be an excited reaction on Barry Silbert's victory, similar to Judge Torres' ruling on Ripple'.
922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 30, 2023, 04:45:07 AM
Can I make a request to start it either 2 hours before or 2 hours after of 7pm?

Check with Hhampuz and Nutildah, and see if they can adjust, I am going to guess not as they are both like 12 hours out from each other so that is where they can both make it.

So only force a change if you really have to.

I cleared my schedule. I removed all meetings with Donald Trump, Putin and Oprah Winfrey. I told them that I have something more important to do. The Donald asked what it was. I replied my fantasy league draft. Putin frowned, Oprah was shocked and rested her hands on her waist and the Donald gave me a thumbs up.

@South Park. I like the hash lottery. It will make you feel if you won or lost something hehehehe. I thought I won last year, however, I learned that I did not want to be first in a snake draft order.
923  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Tornado cash founders charged with money laundering/sanctions violations on: August 30, 2023, 04:07:36 AM
Stumbled across this post on Reddit, where the OP nicely expresses the same sentiments I expressed earlier in this thread:

The so-called "anti-money laundering" movement that pushed for this indictment is a fascist mass-surveillance ideology wrapped up in euphemisms. It's reminiscient of the surveillance state ideology espoused by the CCP in China.

This doesn't just apply to mixers, but to everything that is pushed in the name of "AML". They'll go after mixers, after peer to peer trades, after DEXs, after the stupidly named "self hosted" wallets (which just means holding your own keys), after any and all services which don't collect KYC data. They can't stand a form of money which they do not have absolute control over. It weakness their control, weakness their grip on your life. Their ultimate goal is that all bitcoin is bought and paid for only on regulated KYC platforms, and it never leaves those regulated KYC platforms. The only thing you will be allowed to do with it is send it from one regulated KYC platform to another, using a list which they will create of "approved" platforms. Owning your own keys won't be allowed. Making your own transactions won't be allowed.

Unless people stop acquiescing to the ever more intense and invasive demands of centralized exchanges, then this is the future we are sleep walking in to.

I very much agree. On the case of the Tornado Cash founders, the DOJ used fud by implying that the Lazarus group might be using Tornado Cash to mix their funds. I reckon none of this is connected to the Lazarus group because their funds are being tracked already. It is speculated that the Lazarus group storyline was only a fear tactic or a distraction used to force the amendment and the creation of more executive orders to use against the cryptospace.



OFAC sanctioned the Lazarus Group on September 13, 2019, pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13722, and identified it as an agency, instrumentality, or controlled entity of the Government of North Korea. The Lazarus Group has operated for more than 10 years and is believed to have stolen over $2 billion worth of digital assets across multiple thefts. Due to the pressure of robust U.S. and United Nations sanctions, the DPRK has resorted to using illicit tactics, such as cyber-enabled heists perpetrated by the Lazarus Group, to generate revenue for its unlawful weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile programs.

Semenov is being designated pursuant to E.O. 13694, as amended by E.O. 13757, for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity described in subsections (a)(ii) or (a)(iii)(A) of E.O. 13694, as amended, or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to E.O. 13694, as amended; and pursuant to E.O. 13722 for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, the Government of North Korea, a person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to E.O. 13722.


Source https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1702
924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [JUST IN] Grayscale wins lawsuit against the SEC on: August 30, 2023, 03:19:46 AM
I think the hype might be short-lived.  The SEC still have the final say on whether anything gets approved or not.  Otherwise every company would be filing a lawsuit.  Still don't think a Spot ETF will happen for another few years yet.

Agreed. Uncle Gary has been losing these cases against the cryptospace everywhere and in his embarassment he might begin operation cryptospace annoyance by creating delays and more delays on the approval for the ETF. His term as SEC chairman will end on June 5, 2026.

I am also afraid that if the ETF is approved on 2026, it might mark the market top months after approval after twaps hehehe.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 30, 2023, 02:47:53 AM
OK, I think we are going to have to put a timeframe on setting our draft time.

I'm sure most of us need to know at least a few days ahead of time when the draft will be so as to set our schedules not to conflict with other drafts and RL shit.

So I think I will have to give a cutoff time for discussion of Wed and have a last and FINAL vote on thurs if we don't have a consensus before then.

We are currently waiting on nutildah and Hhampuz to figure a out a timeframe they can both make and give that to us to verify we can all make that range.

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RULES CHANGES:
OK, I went back and reread all the posts and started applying peoples votes but found it became unwieldy as some of the discussions changed the questions and I didn't feel the people that voted should be locked in to their votes and rather than make a whole discussion over each change here are the current questions and everyone can vote again.

* denotes last years setting

1) South Park: Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on

the most important part of the season?

Playoff spots:

a)4 *

b)6

c)8


2)DireWolfM14:What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

Payout places
a)1*

b)2*

c)3

d)MORE

*note 1st place was split last year as the death on the field cancelled a game with league players original was winner take all



3)morvillz7z: replace kicker with a flex spot  

a) yes

b) no*

C) don't care/abstain





4) OK now on the waiver method, due to the choices being multifaceted it can become complicated to vote for one.

So I think what we can do is break it down and vote multiple times on the method to choose.

OK if that was not clear this is an example of what I am saying.

We will vote on whether to use reverse order or continuous rolling or a mix of the two (hybrid). If we choose reverse order then there are 2 different choices of that (I will explain that if that is our choice before the next vote) and if we do hybrid then obviously those 2 choices also come into play. So we will not need a second vote only if continuous rolling is chosen.

Now correct me if i'm wrong but I think 2 years ago we used reverse order and last year we used continuous rolling.

NOW a Hybrid just means that we can use both.

I will change the method depending on what we decide.

For instance my choice would be to use Reverse for the beginning of the league (like first 5 weeks) and then change to continuous rolling for the remainder of the league.

My argument for this is that if you draft horrible then the first 5 weeks you can get good waiver picks and make a decent team BUT after 5 weeks it will not hurt good teams that get injured players by pushing them down to the bottom of the waiver list every week which I believe is unfair.

So the current voting options are.

a)reverse order

b)continuous rolling

c)Hybrid

d) don't care/abstain

My votes are

1) Playoff spots, 4.
2) Payout spots, 1 is okay, however, if most of you want 2, also okay.
3) Replace kicker with flex, no. I like to play similar to our team format last year.
4) Waiver method, okay to hybrid. Reverse and continuous order did not have a difference for me hehehehe. I still lose.

OK, PMing everyone also announced in discord and will be emailed through league that Monday, September 4th, 7 p.m. EST will be Draft date unless they Veto it by Wed.




Can I make a request to start it either 2 hours before or 2 hours after of 7pm?
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The next trending storyline in DeFi might be RWA on: August 29, 2023, 03:21:04 AM
First, you can not have decentralized finance when dealing with real-world assets. There must be a centralized intermediary in between.

They are called oracles and presently Chainlink has created their platform giving this type of functionality. Also with Chainlink, institutions can have blockchain connectivity solutions for RWA and interoperability between blockchains. The infrastructure is there, it only needs to be used and it appears in the interview with Larry Fink, Blackrock is very interested.

Also, it is very important to mention again that the next inflow of funds from institutional investors to the cryptospace might go through the tokenization of real world assets like corporate and government bonds. It might not be through altcoins and it will certainly not be through NFTs hehehehe.
927  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] eXch.cx - Automatic Exchange | Sig Campaign | Up to 0.0036 BTC/W on: August 29, 2023, 02:36:18 AM
Reapplying if this is okay. Thank you.

Username: bbc.reporter
BTC SegWit Address: bc1qagupxxqwpswgld89fkv30fynm2rt6kkvlff5jy
928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Challenging the lows, 25.5k and lower possible break here on: August 29, 2023, 02:08:05 AM
Similar to what I have mentioned before, the people are presently witnessing disbelief in this market. They speculate that this is only another bear market rally that will certainly dump later. I shake my head on this because despite every bad news about the economy, bitcoin has been going up since November.

However, what might cause a dump is Mtgox's repayment of $4.3 billion in bitcoins. It is very much certain that the receivers of these coins are very excited to sell some of them after being frozen for many years hehe.



Mt. Gox creditors are set to receive payouts in October 2023.
142,000 BTC, currently worth $4.3 billion, are set to return to general circulation.


Source https://www.ccn.com/news/mt-gox-repayment-bitcoin-price/
929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hong Kong officially launches its first Bitcoin and crypto trading platform on: August 29, 2023, 01:30:58 AM
I think people in Hong Kong don't really need this.
There are so many physical exchange shops where you can buy and sell any coin with great fees and mostly without any KYC.

I only made good experiences with those shops and can only recommend them. ATMs are also available, and I mean many of them, but the fees are not good to be honest;

Will go to HK in 2 weeks, let's see if this is up and running then already.

Agreed that small minnows like you and me might not need this, however, there are also whales in Hong Kong who want to trade cryptocoins with size and they need a professional platform with marketmakers that can handle their liquidity and cashflow. Also, this platform will open access to instutional investors.

This is very much needed if we want more cashflow from China to go into the cryptospace.
930  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Tornado cash founders charged with money laundering/sanctions violations on: August 29, 2023, 12:53:38 AM
Yes, it is their job. We are not questioning this. We are questioning if it was right for the government to imprison people who had no connection to the crimes that are happening through the software that they only created.
I assume the developer got arrested but that doesnt mean he was already imprisoned. I believe he is just investigated as per protocols and probably out by now. We know how things work, since they dont have a conclusive proof of allegations made.

But the cryptospace is giving some of this power back to the people. The government does not want this.
Did I say I didnt believe that? I am here on forum and of course also a fan of decentralized approach but we live mixed up with the Government isnt it? there are protocols that we should also followed as part of being its citizen. Im just in the middle.

In any case, if you want the government to control the whole cryptospace so that criminals cannot use it then we should demand for more centralization of our favorite projects and demand for more invasive regulations.
The hell I can be control by them. Not even work for the government eversince why I let them control me? Surely they acted like that due to the incidents happening on crypto. If theres no hack then surely they will shut their freakin mouth. The problem here is the composition of Government which mixed up with the sharks who wanted power.

The government has no right to arrest anyone who did not do any crime. This is a violation of basic human rights.

Yes, we are in the middle and sometimes we cannot do anything, however, what we should have is critical thinking. This is another thing that the owners of the world do not want, people who are thinking and talking about how they are being scammed and fooled by the government and by the corporations.

Also, we are always being controlled and being manipulated by them. They tell us what to buy, what to think, how to act, what our politics should be, everything in our lives is based on everything that they have built, own and control.
931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: August 28, 2023, 06:48:57 AM
The sympathy for Trump is certainly because of how the Biden administration is running America and what the Democrats are presently doing.



Biden staffers met with Special Counsel Jack Smith’s aides before Trump indictment

The White House counsel’s office met with a top aide to Special Counsel Jack Smith just weeks before he brought charges against former President Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents — raising serious concerns about coordinated legal efforts aimed at President Biden’s likely opponent in 2024.


Source https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/biden-staffers-met-with-special-counsel-jack-smiths-aides-before-trump-indictment/



Also, Trump is unpredictable. He is not a traditional Republican and he also might give his support to Robert Kennedy Jr. if the cases against him does not legally allow him to be the Republican presidential candidate.
932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 28, 2023, 05:48:30 AM
@Maslate. I very much agree. Francis Ngannou is also not a very good trashtalker. The fans are shaking their heads on why uncle Dana will not let Ngannou fight in boxing, however, they never considered that it would be difficult for Dana to market Ngannou. He is not similar to Conor who was known everywhere outside of MMA already. Ngannou is not and he does not have the right personality for this. However, do you know who has the right personality? It will be Suga Sean. He will be supported by uncle Dana next to challenge someone in boxing. According to Suga Sean, it will be Tank Davis.
933  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [Updated] FTX on: August 28, 2023, 04:42:16 AM
News update, however, this is unconfirmed.

According to some people in social media, data on everyone who has used FTX and Blockfi has been leaked from Kroll. I am not quite certain what is Kroll but I assume this is their website.

https://www.kroll.com

FTX and Blockfi might have hired their services for compliance and regulations.

https://www.kroll.com/en/services/compliance-and-regulation

In any case, this is one of the unwelcome occurrences of KYC. It is a collection of customer data waiting to be stolen by hackers.
934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 28, 2023, 03:52:48 AM
@yahoo62278. It was a snake draft order. If you are no.1 in the order like me in our draft last year, I had a good opportunity to draft first, however, I would have to wait from no.2 to no.10 then from no.10 to no.2 before it would be my turn again. It was making me very anxious because much of the players I queued were being drafted by others and I had to wait 18 more turns before my turn hehehehe. I want to be on slot 5-7 this year.
935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 28, 2023, 02:41:45 AM

just to say i'm available at any time...


by the way, what are we doing with the draft order, random at the start of the draft or something else? Last year it was hashes...

https://100yardrush.com/

^ pretty fun way to do it as well...



Haha, tested it out and Jacobs won! Smiley

I think using hashes is the best way to assure a fair order and its worked fine so far.

If it's Sunday the 3rd I could probably not do it after 3-4 PM EST. On Monday, and any day after that really, I'd be able to do it more or less at any time. I won't be home on Sept. 2-3 that's why it's a bit tricky.


OK, Lets see if anyone has an issue making it DRAFT DAY SEPT 3RD @ 3:00PM EST.


Speak up if this does not work for you,

I'll pm everyone to make sure they get notified.


Edited with accepted time and date:

Hueristic
Hhampuz          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62754803#msg62754803
morvillz7z         https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62756063#msg62756063
wheelz1200      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62757197#msg62757197
DireWolfM14     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62754447#msg62754447
yahoo62278     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224503.msg62753846#msg62753846

Yes I am okay with this new schedule.

When do we begin the lottery for the draft order? I am very excited about this. I also have learned that being no.1 in the draft order is not very good. It was very boring for me because I wait for more turns before it becomes my turn hehehee.

In any case, gameboy cluster compute has generated my cheatsheet already, only minor adjustments left.
936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 27, 2023, 02:59:49 AM
^
Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.

Aikido has nothing to do with kicking but Anderson will always be remembered for how he did it against Belfort. Anderson doesn't need help from Steven, I don't know why Anderson tried training with him when Belfort is no threat to him in any way. But Ngannou against the baddest HW boxer, he certainly needs every bit of strategy.

By how Ngannou will end the fight, it will still be the influence due to the confidence given to the people who trained him whether Mike helped or not, it's still going to give him the confidence.



Mike Tyson might have helped Francis Ngannou similar to how Steven Seagal helped Anderson Silva. To help in hyping the fight and to sell more tickets hehehe. Mike Tyson was an idol to many older fans of boxing. This might be their target market for this fight because younger fans might not be very excited for this. Younger fans like to watch Tank Davis and King Ry more than Tyson Fury, I reckon.
937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion on: August 27, 2023, 01:40:26 AM
I voted for Daniel Dubois after the fight by knockout as a protest against this crime in this very corrupt sport of boxing hehehe. In my own mind, Usyk is presently not the champion anymore. Similar to what I have been telling everyone before, much of these boxing events have become something similar to scamcoin ICOs where the issuer hypes and then dumps his tokens on his own community. This is a scam. Boxing promoters are taking your money by promoting these low quality fights and they have already paid the judges and the referee to make sure they know the winner.

It was manipulated.
938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: August 26, 2023, 06:53:19 AM
@Sithara007 the image is doctored as there is no Police logo which was contained in the Giuliani mug shot posted above.

Yes, this doctored image is being endlessly viewed and commented on, but like everything else surrounding #45, it's deception.

Agreed. Trump's team wants to put their fake mugshot viral first before the real mugshot appears in social media. It is also good for promoting Trump's campaign hehehe. Trump won the media war on this occasion.

@Sithara007. I very much disagree. Kingmakers will do everything to have a good connection with the king. This implies all business favors for Trump and for the government to drop the case against him.
939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election on: August 26, 2023, 05:06:31 AM
@Sithara007. That was what I have always been telling everyone. The Democrats will make a martyr out of Trump. All of these indictments and charges against him will only give more attention to the name Trump and make him a more popular presidential candidate. If he cannot run for president, he can be a kingmaker and support another candidate. Who are the other candidates in the Republicans field?
940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 26, 2023, 03:28:20 AM
^
Two huge fighters wanna be thr baddest in the world can only end in a knockout. It will be the biggest upset of the history if we see its Fury lying down the ground.

I will still not be shock if its Fury though. Each of them has the KO punch and now that Ngannou is training with Mike Tyson, we'll see how much can it contribute when its the style of Mike giving Ngannou the edge.

I have already mentioned that Mike Tyson's presence in Francis Ngannou's team is something similar to Steven Seagull's presence in Anderson Silva's training before Anderson's fight vs. another Brazilian. According to Seagull, he was the one who taught Anderson the special front kick move to knockout his opponent. However, this was only done to promote the fight. Anderson did not really need Steven Seagull's teachings hehehehe.
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