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4081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: slavery is better than 100% tax on: February 19, 2013, 05:27:40 PM
True that, if I'm going to be a slave, I'd rather be aware of it. Most people don't seem to ever consider the predicament we're in. I don't think it's just taxes, but this whole system which makes slaves out of us. Work or die is the theme, and whether I'm free to choose to die doesn't make me any less of a slave. As a slave, with a fair master, you're set for life. With the introduction of a wage, for most, it's work without guarantee you'll be set. Hell, the original slave owners of Muricuh decided keeping slaves was just too expensive, and paying workers was more cost effective.
4082  Other / Off-topic / Re: A little gift on: February 19, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
It would be an awfully empty board Tongue I can probably count the amount of active artists on this forum on one hand Grin
4083  Other / Off-topic / A little gift on: February 19, 2013, 04:56:44 AM

Sally the Over-enthusiastic Bitcoin Girl!

Enjoy Grin
4084  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin be a solution for the raw milk market? on: February 19, 2013, 03:27:34 AM
If the government has deemed raw milk is bad for you and has thus done the honorable thing and protected us from such a danger, then why question it?

We should be coming up with ways to use Bitcoin to reward politicians who pass more laws to protect us from ourselves.

Uncle Sam likes the way you think Grin
4085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Politics and the Internet on: February 18, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
The only think holding back anarchy is the belief in the state. Try telling your average person that we should eliminate the state and they will probably recoil in horror. This is what has to change, it's a battle of ideas.

You're absolutely right about that.  Anything that isn't glorious democracy (which never was a democracy but try telling a Christian there's no God and see where that takes you Tongue ) is pure evil and probably associated with communism.  I've actually been researching anarchism lately, and have learned many new things.  It seems any time you mention anarchism, people immediately think of total chaos and everyone dying and getting mugged and raped.  It's almost a losing battle, since belief in the state begins through forced public education and only beats you down until you submit by the time you finally get out.

If ever there'll be change, it has to start with education.  But I don't see anyone fighting for it.  In fact, it's supposed to be getting worse.  What to do?  There's a choke hold on these old ideas that people just don't want to give up.


Try a representative sortition.

Had to look this one up Grin So it would be like jury duty almost?  Where, instead of appointing a politician to represent a group of people, a random person is chosen to step to the plate.  I like the sound of this idea, as long as it is truly random and people are rotated very often.
4086  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wouldn't it be more fair if the bitcoins were shared equally? on: February 18, 2013, 11:26:07 PM
Find precious orangey-yellow metal

Mine for four years

"Hey that's not fair, you should share it with everyone!"

"Why?"

"Because it's shiny and I want it."
4087  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Would you buy milkshakes or smoothies with bitcoins? on: February 18, 2013, 11:24:01 PM
I'll buy any kind of food with bitcoin Tongue
4088  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-13 Youtube -- comparison between Bitcoins and Unusual Hats on: February 18, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
While I was listening to this guy claim we wouldn't be buying meals and hats for bitcoin any time soon I was wearing a hat bought with bitcoin and I ate a bitcoin bought pizza that night.



Living the dream right there Grin
4089  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wouldn't it be more fair if the bitcoins were shared equally? on: February 18, 2013, 11:08:47 PM
If you mean, by sharing, spending, that would be great!

But if you mean sharing as in, giving away, ehh probably not gonna happen.
4090  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wouldn't it be more fair if the bitcoins were shared equally? on: February 18, 2013, 10:53:26 PM
They either bought the coins for cheap, or spent the time and money to mine them.  And there was no guarantee bitcoin would ever become anything.  It could've flopped and then, nothing.  They're being rewarded for believing in it while others said it was silly and would never work.  There's no right or wrong to it.  It's just the luck of the draw.
4091  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wouldn't it be more fair if the bitcoins were shared equally? on: February 18, 2013, 10:47:17 PM
They took a much bigger risk.  There are lots of currencies beside the gov-issued which fall through and subsequently become mostly worthless.  It's like investing.  Those people saw the potential and put their money where their respective mouths were.  To give that up because more people are jumping on the bandwagon now that Bitcoin has better proven itself wouldn't be very fair.
4092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Want to found your own micronation? Just add water... on: February 18, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
I'd rather these nations assimilate and dissolve than try to add another Tongue
4093  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Is: on: February 18, 2013, 07:42:09 AM
a key to the cuffs
4094  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-06 NPR - Is Online Gambling Legal With Bitcoins? on: February 18, 2013, 07:38:12 AM
I never understood why it was illegal either.

America has casinos all over the freaking place.  Were the casino owners crying to their government to stop online websites from taking their business?  I can only come to this conclusion, seeing as we have absolutely no problem with gambling offline.
4095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin be a solution for the raw milk market? on: February 18, 2013, 04:16:56 AM
Don't most of us consume raw milk when we're babies anyway Tongue
4096  Economy / Economics / Re: what if btc takes over €/$ ? on: February 15, 2013, 10:53:21 PM
Well.  This thread escalated quickly.

People, please, these are questions that have been asked quite a number of times.  Gestas, Vince; why not research how Bitcoin works before asking remedial questions?  Better yet, research how the dollar works, and why every question presented could've been answered by Google.  There is nothing in this world which has known omnipotence from day one.  There was a day when today's standard American dollar wasn't even a twinkle in Uncle Sam's eye.  Bitcoin has been alive for a measly 3, 4 years?  Can't you see beyond the nose on your face?
4097  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Politics and the Internet on: February 15, 2013, 06:39:18 AM
I don't want to rule over others and I don't want to be ruled by others. Anarchy. Smiley

He he I see Grin  Anarchy would be a cool turn, but it seems once anarchy takes place, people start asking for more government.  Unless everyone's fiercely anarchist in any area you could fit your thumb on a map, people will want to collude and figure out a way to run each other's lives just so they'll all be on the same page as to what's okay and what isn't okay.  The only way it would work is if everyone wants the same thing for their community, and though I do believe everyone essentially wants the same things in life, you'll always have one guy who wants to one up everyone else and proclaim himself leader and garner a following.  It assumes people have a tendency to think for themselves, but it seems we only tend to think without prompt when we're idle, which can't be so without technology.  So maybe with the advent of fully automating all industry to the point nobody had to work to live, anarchy would work.  And I do believe we have the technology to do that.  But as it stands, if right now anarchy was accepted worldwide, it wouldn't last.  Someone would come up with this grand new way for people to live and act.
4098  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Politics and the Internet on: February 15, 2013, 06:17:18 AM
TL;DR: You want to change the representative republic into a direct democracy.

I think they are both terrible systems.  Wink

Usually that follows a couple of reasons why, but I'll bite; why don't you like it, and what system would you prefer in their place, if not this or the current?
4099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why the high price on: February 15, 2013, 06:09:04 AM
Bitcoin has value because it's scarce and we say it has value.

Gold has value because it's scarce and we say it has value.

TF2 Hats have value because they're scarce and we say it has value.

These three are different than the following.

WoW Gold has little value because it's not scarce and we base its value on how annoying it is to get.

Dirt has little value because it's the opposite of scarce, but it can be a pain to haul in large quantities if you need to get some dirt in a place that doesn't have any (which wouldn't really price the dirt, but the effort it takes to move it)

The dollar has negative value because it's not only the opposite of scarce, but can be produced on a whim, and we have no say in its value, which is always negative.  We use this because it's common and the gov said so, and what the gov says is as good as God's word.

Some people believe Bitcoin's value directly represents the Dollar's actual value, which is less than dirt.  It's value increases based on how many people realize this.  But if you're implying Bitcoin shouldn't have value because it does nothing, you should bury your money in a hole and see what it does at the end of the day.

The following is a list I've comprised of things you can do with paper money that you can't do with Bitcoin.

1. Use it for campfire fuel
2. Sew it into an ineffective blanket
3. Wipe your ass
4. Snort crack
5. Blow your nose
6. Paper ball for office hoops
7. Create a public diversion when running from the popo
8. Fold to expose 9/11 was a hoax
9. Draw a mustache on great American historical figures

However, with the advent of paper Bitcoin money, this list is/will be moot.
4100  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Barrier to Entry on: February 15, 2013, 05:43:36 AM
I'll vouch for electrum.  It works without the blockchain.  That is all. Grin
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