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941  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: May 07, 2023, 07:43:55 AM
It's more exciting to join now because of the additional winners plus a chance to qualify for the free spins. Roobet is so generous to the participants and also thanks to Hhampuz for the initiative to have these changes (additional winners and free spins) for the this art contest.
Free spins will help to build stronger bonds between Roobet and art contest participants.

Rather than taking money from the art contest and use it somewhere else, they will have free spins to play at Roobet and explore more about the casino. It is helpful for them to get more ideas for their future art works too. I believe that if they spend more time on Roobet, even only with free spins, they will have more creative ideas for their arts as they will understand about more games on Roobet.

I think it's a good idea but probably will just attract users if it remains mixed including a money prize too
I don't know, just my opinion on that
if it was just free spins I think less people would join
what do you think?
Free spins like rewards may create thoughts like the site is giving the rewards but they won't let the users any real money with that even though it isn't entirely correct but it may create a bad name which is against the purpose of promotions so giving away the real money to the winners is the right thing and I noticed since the last contest the rewards are directly going to the winners wallet not to their casino account which shows the contest should not affect the users convenience meanwhile they can do whatever they want because they won it.
Why it can create a bad name? Free spins are a good promotion to attract more participants to join and of course this can have a positive impact on Roobet. As an art contest participant of Roobet, I like this new changes because it means you have a chance to gain something even you didn't win a cash prize.

It's a good idea actually that they add free spins as consolation prize because it can encourage the artist to create an artwork and do their best to get a spot for the list of winners. As I have said before, this is way better than to get nothing so I appreciate it even if I won't win.
942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling or gaming sites on: May 07, 2023, 05:24:34 AM
I had never heard anything about these services and yet there seems to be people willing to risk their deposit on it.
I'm not familiar with these sites too and this is first time I heard about it. I checked the links that op mentioned but I didn't see anything that can attract me to play. I still prefer the gambling sites that can be seen here on the forum because it is also the recommended sites of many gamblers here.

Anyways, most people just needs to stick to reliable services, if they want to play safe, in my opinion.  Tongue
That's true. Why risk your money on gambling sites that you're not familiar with? If there's plenty of options here and you can be certain that it is trusted and not a scam platform.
943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Online casino always take risks? on: May 07, 2023, 03:31:36 AM
Yeah I agree, before you can establish a casino you also need to have a good amount of capital when we say good amount meaning to say that you can cover all the marketing expenses aside from securing the amount to make a payout. It's not easy as there are competitions that you need to consider and those possible whales who can bring your business down.

With that concept, having more patrons to use your service means that you can generate profits in the long-run, good services with developed trust from gamblers will allow your success.
Years ago it was still possible to start a casino with a relatively low amount of money and succeed, but since then things have changed in a dramatic way and this is no longer true, anyone that wants to start a casino not only needs to have a team dedicated to protect their customers from hackers, they also need top notch customer support, fast servers, many bonuses and to promote themselves heavily over the internet, and not a single one of those things is cheap.
Well now when we take into consideration the creation of a casino you have to know what you are getting into, because it is not easy at all, now, if the person who wants to create the casino has a lot of money, there is not that much of a problem, in As far as I am concerned, if a person has a capital that can withstand the losses that a whale player can generate, then everything is fine, because security and everything can be guaranteed with the best devs and hiring specialists in it, I consider that this is what It is a very reckless action.


but unlike before that it is not required to have huge money , what i mean is that if you are just have a small capital you can now start a casino which lets say your intentions are legit but right now if you make a casino you'll end up losing because you dont have  enough funds to do advertisement , unlike before just post it in social media and forums then there are gamblers will try it. That is why if you have funds even if you ain't knowledgable then you can still make a casino by hiring staff on it.  That is why money is very powerful.
The current situation is different compared to before since many casinos now are existing and they're competitive. If you want your business to stand out then you need more money to advertise your project on various platforms to spread awareness. Promotions and bonuses are also necessary in order to attract the gamblers to try the casino. This is only possible if you have money, the more the better, it is indeed powerful.

If you get the trust of your gamblers because of the service and perks of playing on your casino then they will become a loyal players and that's one factor for a casino to succeed.

944  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: May 07, 2023, 01:49:16 AM
I plead guilty for not reading some of the bonus rules and some casino conditions and I have paid dearly for it, it has been hard for me to leave the money and not comply with the conditions, because if I had read before grabbing that bonus the things would have been very different, this means that every time we start to see every detail of a bond there is always something that does not add up to us and there, if we choose whether it is convenient or not, this has happened to me many times, and I have Quite a few things to do, a bonus or promotion that has been launched by rollbit is different, this casino does not abuse the terms and conditions of bonuses like other casinos.

It's not easy to realize that we've done something wrong, and I appreciate you when you can realize that you did wrong before. Let it be past, because there is no point in regretting it. Make things like this an experience so we don't make the same mistake in the future.
It's normal when we make mistakes, because we are also human beings who may intentionally or unintentionally make mistakes. It's just that we don't let the mistakes we make again in the future, that's something that is not allowed.
The best practice is to learn from your mistakes instead of repeating the same thing and putting blame on others for the same.There are some people who try to put fake allegations against casinos but they themselves are at fault or say have lost money but can't handle it so those who accept mistakes and learn from it will never fall for such things again.
Many gamblers are playing but can't accept their losses so they're blaming others for what happened, and in most cases they put the blame in the casino. Aside from reading the casino's tems and condition to become aware of the rules, it's also important to prepare yourself for the possible consequences if you gamble your money because losing it is likely to happen. So incase you're not lucky to win, it's not hard to accept the outcome because you know the risk.

Anyway, meme coin PEPE is now available for deposit on Rollbit.
945  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - what is your plan when we reach $100k? on: May 05, 2023, 07:48:20 AM
I do not have much Bitcoin currently but I am planning to convert a lot of the profits I make in my altcoins during the bull run into BTC which I will then hold till the 2028/29 bull run.

I expect Bitcoin to reach at least $100k at the peak of the next bull run, possibly $150k.

Just wondering what we are all planning to do when Bitcoin does reach $100k - are you selling or are you holding till the 2028/29 bull run?
I originally plan to sell my Bitcoin when the price already reached $100k because that's a decent profit already for me to enjoy. I waited for years and remain patient even many people are spreading FUD that if you're not firm with your decision you might get influence to give up because of your worries.

But now I have no concrete plan yet on what to do incase the price reach another ATH. Because I still want to hold longer to see if the price can surpass the $100k value which is not impossible to happen on the next halving. So I think I will continue to hold until i'm contented with what I gain.
946  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Early Profit can be misleading. on: May 05, 2023, 04:31:00 AM
To some extent I agree with you , but this is when you've become over excited or overreacted about the profit , for me early profit is used to be an encouragement to actually play safe than hitting a lose at the first place, beginning with a lose can do more harm than good as a trader and lot of people quits at this point, because it alter your emotions if not controlled. However some people would think they've already arrived and have gotten it right or the right strategy to begin with when they first make profit. Whenever I start with 1-3 profits I'm always cautious about my next trade.

One common thing attributed to making an early profit on investment is the luck factor, once they make an attempt and hit the target on this first approach, they believe that things will always be as thesame always and therefore they relax down and the next thing you see is the other side of it all, hitting them unexpectedly where they could hardly recover from, in every trading we do, we must always be on alert, anything can try to show up entirely different from what we expected, but once we see it coming, we could prepare and plan against such.
Well, I agree. But isn't it good to profit at first because it just shows that what you have learned before you try to trade does work? Profit is better than losses in your first try because it can encourage you to do better so you can gain more. But if you become complacent after that because of your thinking that it's easy then that's the problem.

As a trader, you need to improve your strategy, analysis and continue to learn. Gaining at first doesn't mean the next result would stay the same and it is one thing that a trader should be aware of especially for the newbies who are thinking it is not hard to be a trader.
947  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Paano Ka Ba Manghikayat o Mag educate Sa Mga Kababayan Natin on: May 05, 2023, 12:42:03 AM
Ang dami nating mga kababayan na nalulugi sa pag invest sa Cryptocurrency karamihan kasi sa halip na Bitocin ang ipromte sa mga baguhan inuuna yung mga altcoins na bagong labas, marami sa mga altcoins ngayun may referrral rewards lalo na yung mga airdrops kaya sa halip na Bitcoin muna huli na nila nalalaman yung value ng Bitcoin na mas higit sa mga altcoins na yan.
Mas gusto kasi ng iba yung mabilisang kumita kaya imbes na sa Bitcoin sila mag invest (na alam naman nating mas popular at imposibleng di sila aware) sa altcoins nila piniling mag take risk. Sa gc ng mga traders sa fb kung san ako kasali, kalimitan ng mga pino promote mga meme coins kasi nga daw may chance kang kumita ng malaki sa maiksing panahon kapag nag pump. Kumpara sa Bitcoin na bukod sa pricey na eh kahit tumaas man daw hindi ganun kalaki ang kikitain kung ang budget mo ay konti lang.

Kayo ganun din ba kayo mag invite una muna ang Bitcoin at mga risk nito bago yung mga benefits.
Kapag may nagka interes matuto mag invest/trade ng crypto tapos nagtanong sakin, dun lang ako sumasagot. Pero hindi ako yung nag i initiate sa kanila para ma invite ko kasi mahirap na masisi, danas ko na eh. Bitcoin lang talaga yung pino promote ko kasi nga less risky kesa altcoins. Kapag ang isang tao naman eh desididong matuto sya na mismo ang magkukusa na alamin kung san ba maganda mag invest kaya for sure malalaman din nila yung altcoins na maganda bilhin at i hold.
948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what is your opinion on shikoku inu? on: May 04, 2023, 08:56:48 AM
If there is an INU in that name, then it must be a copy-cat from shiba-inu token, in short it is a copy-paste wanna be project. I don't see any promising about it hence it's a memecoin and only created because of the hype it got from other MEME coins in this past weeks. I suggest stay away from it because it will only make waste your money once the hype is over.
A new project without utility is just a shitcoin with no real purpose but to join the ride of hype meme coins. They come up with a catchy project name to lure the investors but it's like a trap that if you invest your money you'll likely lose it for choosing a not worthy coins.

Well, for investors DYOR and don't be attracted easily. Many projects that are existing nowadays are trash so dig deeper if you want to find a worthy project with a real use case and not only relying on hype.
949  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I don't know if am right or wrong about this. on: May 04, 2023, 03:51:38 AM
I don't want a situation whereby someone will say that I scammed him if there is a sudden dip in the crypto industry, so I just told him to open a binance account and verify it, after then, he should get back to me so I can send him the hard copy of the crypto course I bought.
Uptil now I still feel uncomfortable about it, I don't know if am wrong or right for opening up, even though I told him of the risk involved.
Common worries of people who became the reason why a person engage himself in crypto. I understand you well because i'm once in such situation wherein I was held responsible of someone I just helped. But I don't see anything wrong on what you did since you already told him the risk yet he's still interested.

What you can do is help him understand more about trading. Remind him that it's not easy and gaining is not guaranteed. So he will keep in mind that even trading works for you or for other traders who are earning a decent, it's still different for every traders since it depends how knowledgeable and good you are when you trade.
950  Economy / Economics / Re: Concers About Going in Business with a Friend on: May 04, 2023, 01:33:58 AM
Many years ago, I heard the story of a man whose business partner did dirty. They were business partners for almost 5 years and the suddenly the business partner left with company's money. Even after several years, this man didn't recovered. He ended up sounding it as a warning to his kids never to go into business with anyone. The trust was destroyed and never recovered. This is just one of those sad stories.
That's the risk of having a partner when you have business. Because there's always a possibility for the other to have a change of mind and become greedy because of money. The reason why if you'd like to build a business with a friend, make sure you know him inside and out as one that you can trust and rely on.

On the other hand, there are many success stories of friends who went into business together and succeeded to together. If you have ever gone into business with a friend, what were your biggest concerns and how did work through it.
Aside from the skills and knowledge on how good he is in the business that you'll build, it's important that you are comfortable with the person. You can share ideas, criticism and open to each other. In short he should be someone that you can trust, much better if you known him for a long time so you already know what kind of person he is.
951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: May 03, 2023, 08:26:57 AM
For me working from 8AM to 5PM is really make me tired because I've spend most of my time on my jobs, I only feel free during weekend where I have more spare time to gamble, travelling, shopping or do anything I like. I only gamble for short time during work days because I need to have time with my family especially play with my kids during their golden ages. If someone who have been married and can gamble everyday, seems like he has a problem about gambling addiction.
That is also what I noticed about my coworkers in my previous job: either they will go to the arena for cockfighting or they will go to other places to get drunk. I feel that they are not tired of doing it, no matter how busy the work is. Even I can't do it, as I want to rest after the work unless it is not a busy day on which I still have spare energy. Though I wouldn't say that they are addicted, as they can still control themselves, it is just part of their daily routine to do it.
There are responsible gamblers as well who don't let gambling get over their emotions and make them spend every dime on it. If your friends are working, taking care of their families, not having mental stress, and are able to do it every day and are happy to do it, I don't see any problem with that since all these signs show that they are responsible gamblers.

If they are not doing everything right, then that probably is a problem for them and they need to stop doing it. I wouldn't mind gambling every day if I know that I have a dedicated budget for it that won't affect any other thing in my life and I can enjoy my time with it.
It doesn't matter even you gamble everyday as long as in moderation, and the money that you're spending are meant for leisure. I'm working 8 hours a day too but I can't gamble frequently because aside from i'm busy at work, my money is also limited to use for gambling. I can only gamble every weekend and when I already set aside a money meant for my leisure during payday, it's also my way to discipline myself.

If you're a gambling addict you'll do everything to sustain your addiction because you're uncontrollable. So it's not surprising if an addict can do a criminal act just to continue what he used to. The story in op is one of the example of what an addict can do. Clearly he has a serious problem that needs immediate attention.
952  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: May 03, 2023, 04:30:47 AM
Another great contest to look forward to.
I'm not sure though If I understand it correctly, but it looks like the winners will reduced to 4 winners only, not sure if this is per category.
So expect another tough contest this time, we still have 30 days to prepare, let's enjoy doing our entry.  Grin

Up to 4 winners per category, depending on the quality and quantity per category. So for one category there could be 1 winner while there could be 4 in another one. Just to spread out the prizes a bit more Smiley
This is cool, more chances of winning this time plus a free spin to every qualify participants.
Roobet never fails, its good to be part of every art contest with Roobet. Will start conceptualizing my entry, hope to have a spot this time.  Grin
It's more exciting to join now because of the additional winners plus a chance to qualify for the free spins. Roobet is so generous to the participants and also thanks to Hhampuz for the initiative to have these changes (additional winners and free spins) for the this art contest.

Anyway, I thought we have to wait for months again for another art contest but it's so fast that the new one is already ongoing. Good luck to everyone, looking forward to know who might be the next winners.
953  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not a get rich quick on: May 03, 2023, 02:36:05 AM
He made two mistakes in this regard,
1. being in meme stocks
2. using other people's money that is not his right with the aim of restoring his condition that has lost a lot.

This is obviously ridiculous when we know that being in memes is something that may not even be recommended if we don't have momentum and can enter and exit in the right way.
On the other hand, many have also emphasized in this case, Invest according to our abilities and never do this with borrowed money if we cannot be responsible for it, especially since he is consciously embezzling money and it is really ridiculous.
He is wretched for his own actions.
Exactly. Using the embezzled money in meme "stocks" are ridiculous and you're not in your right mind if you invest in meme coins using the money that is not yours. Is he thinking this can make him rich? Even if you invest in Bitcoin or other established coins we can't 100% guarantee a good result, so what can you expect if you chose meme coins instead the ones that are already established? It's a huge mistake if you believe this can make you rich quick.

Anyway, it's an eye opener for many people to not think that you can get rich in snap.  Because it depends on where you invest, your knowledge about it and how patient you are to wait because it can take a long period. In addition, don't try to trade if you have no money of your own to start your journey.
954  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: May 02, 2023, 08:34:20 AM
Little wonder that person is still expecting a response from 1xbit when it's clear that 1xbit ignores every complaint that is here.
I understand maybe that person really feels lost but if there is no response I think that person should stop complaining here.
Very sorry for that person but there is no other way than just letting the money go.

You, I, and/or everyone might be right in this case that when there is no response then there is no benefit for complaining. Also, the person who lost the fund and/or account knows about it but when making this type of loss may think that if s/he makes a post then might be able to get a good response though that doesn't happen.
Yes you are right indeed there is no other way than to complain in this thread even though there has never been any response from 1xbit team in this thread they will not solve any problem. because they have been marked as a site that commits major fraud and there are many unresolved cases in this forum too, I really regret why people ignore all of our messages in the thread that this site cannot be trusted even OP account has also been marked as a fraud.

I hope people in this forum don't ignore the negative feedback from the seniors in this forum because it's for the safety and convenience of the community, lots of beginners don't see and ignore the bad reputation of this site in the forum so they immediately play and make a deposit later when they withdraw their money will not be processed by 1xbit team, then complain in this thread on their case. it looks weird
Probably these gamblers who became a victim of 1xbit are not a member of this forum. Because if they do, I don't think they will still opted to play knowing how bad the reputation of 1xbit here with lots of accusations and clearly can't be trusted platform. However, even you're not a member but you're a type of person who always do your diligent research before playing in any casino then you won't end up playing in 1xbit. Because certainly you'll find a valuable information to refrain from playing on this platform because it is scam.

Anyway, it's understandable if these gamblers who lost their funds are still hoping to get their money back. They're not losing hope that 1xbit might resolved their problem if they complain here. But we know it's not going to happen because 1xbit is scam. So even it's hard they need to forget what they lost, take this as a lesson and move on.
955  Economy / Economics / Re: What class of an investor are you? on: May 02, 2023, 05:57:29 AM
The researcher investor
The researcher investor wants to conduct thorough investigation before deciding whether to invest.They might even decide against investing altogether since, if you wait to make a decision until you know everything, you might never invest.
Based on the explanation for each category I think I belong to this one. Because before I invest into any project, I make sure that I understand everything well. If you're an investor, it's important to know what you're getting into before deciding to invest. Unfortunately many of us (especially the newbies) are not careful when investing, the reason why they're ending up investing in a scam projects.

In my case, I only invest in cryptos that are proven to profitable if you hold for long term. In my portfolio I have Bitcoin and established altcoins. I invested to these coins because I believe they're worthy based on my research as an investor who's looking forward to be a huge gainer in future.
956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losses In Gambling That Still Haunts You Until This Day on: May 02, 2023, 03:21:13 AM
Date/year : This happened 2016
Amount or Figure : $200
What Game : Slot

Maybe this is not much for some of us but everytime I remember the money that I spent on slot I somehow have this guilt feeling since you can buy many things with such amount already. That's also the reason why I rarely play slot game when I gamble.

But now I learned not to dwell in my past losses and move on because it can't bring any good to me. Playing in moderation and acceptance are necessary in order to not have regrets when you gamble your money.

957  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Epekto ng Crypto at Bitcoin sa Ekonomiya ng bansa on: May 02, 2023, 01:53:15 AM
Malaki talaga ang naitulong ng crypto sa ating mga kababayan mula ng sumikat ito dito sa bansa. Isa na nga dyan ay ang oportunidad para kumita. Natuto ang mga tao na maging isang trader at investor na nakatulong para magkaroon sila ng extra na pagkakakitaan. Sa kabila ng talamak na scam (na lagi namang nag e exist kahit saan) hindi ito naging hadlang para magtagumpay ang marami satin sa mundo ng crypto.

Nagsimula ako noong 2015 at isa sa mga nagustuhan ko ay yung pag send ng Bitcoin kahit saan ka man sa mundo dahil easy lang at mababa pa ang fee. Nagsimula na rin akong mag invest dahil high volatile nga ito at isang bagay na pwede nating i take advantage. Malaki na rin ang kinita ko sa Bitcoin dahil bukod sa invest ko pati sa alts, yung sig ay malaking bagay rin para magkaron ng additional na kita though meron naman akong real job talaga. Kung ang mindset ng mga tao na kumikita ng malaki sa crypto ay magtayo ng real business , magkakaron ito ng impact sa ating ekonomiya dahil mababawasan din ang mga taong walang trabaho o pinagkakakitaan.
958  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: May 01, 2023, 08:21:21 AM
You can gamble with or without money, and it's still a gambling, people use their houses to gamble when they are short of cash and there are addictive gamblers in China that have used their daughters to gamble away, if they lose their game the winner takes the daughter, I read this in a history book when things were extremely hard for people in China years ago, you don't have to use money or anything to gamble and it's still a gamble, trying to make a uncertain decision, predicting the outcome of any situation, is gambling.

For Example

You will win a gift card if you tell me exactly what Bitcoin's price will be at 12 PM tomorrow. You only have to guess what the price will be, so you have to guess. As of right now, you do not know, and you can just say no, that you don't know, but since you want to win, you will have to gamble, so luck will be the only thing you can rely on.
How would you consider that gambling for me when I don't have anything at stake at all? Even if I don't guess the price correctly, I'm not going to lose anything, it's just that you won't lose your money since you had a bet of a gift card to give me if I guessed the price correctly. It would be gambling for me if I also said that if I don't guess it right, I will also give you a gift card.

About the old story you mentioned where Chinese men used to put their daughters on the stake in gambling, such things happen even in the present but it is just that these things don't always come in the news and the general public doesn't know.
Indeed. It's still happening nowadays. In fact just recently a mother here sold her kid and use the money to bet in gambling, she is an addicted gambler and always chase her losses. Lack of money pushed her to commit such crime of selling her own kid just to sustain her addiction. I believe stories like these are still existing and if not caught, won't be in the news.

Anyway, as I have said before, if you didn't stake something valuable (money, properties etc.) it is not gambling. I would call it as a free game because if you predict it right you will win, if not it's still fine because you didn't stake anything.
959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we should play on minor gambling platform? on: May 01, 2023, 05:39:53 AM
Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.

The main problem with small gambling platforms is operational or running cost, they can do anything to attract users, do promotions and let you play all you like to bet but where the problem may come is the day any player win something bigger than what they have at hand, that is when they deny your winnings, they can block you out from your account, they can make allegations on you for multiple account or found cheating, anything related exhibit to stop you from removing that money from their betting platform but I feel like playing on big betting websites and also casinos, you will hardly have problems if you're a legit bettor.
If the casino is legit (regardless of they're new or old casinos) they will pay smoothly their player who win huge legitimately and won't use a delaying tactics or accuse the gambler of anything to hold the winnings.

This is the edge of reputable old casinos because they're already established and well known to gamblers as a trusted casino with good service. You can gamble without thinking that you might encounter a problem since they're already operating their casino for years without issues. Thus, even you win a huge amount, no worries because they will pay your winnings as long as you didn't violate any of their rules.
960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: May 01, 2023, 04:01:51 AM
Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?
True. Majority of casino gamblers are losing their money because many games are solely depending on luck in order to win. While if you invest in Bitcoin, your knowledge can help you to understand it well on how to take advantage the market on when to buy and sell. So they're different though both are associated with risk.

Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.
If the result is uncertain it can be called gambling. But as I have said, it's different if you invest your money in Bitcoin compared to using it to gamble in a casino. Anyway, don't bother yourself if your friends can't understand your point. Let them believe what they want so just focus on yourself.
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