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901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I failed to make a fortune as an early bitcoin adopter? on: February 24, 2017, 02:50:07 PM
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With faith, investors succeed.
With faith, entrepreneurs succeed.
With faith, stockholders succeed.

All of a sudden it became a long term investment. The first time I looked at bitcoin I only saw a short time investment because of its history. It falls so quick then go way up also fast. With that kind of movement people are thinking buy then sell again but you will have to guard it.
But who is really more profitable here. Is it those who put their faith and just HODL or those who buy and sell although risky?
I dont regret selling when it was too early and I dont call that a failure also.
The more profitable here is those people who put their faith in Bitcoin as Bitcoin strives im votality. We shouldn't regret if we sell bitcoin as we used it for our needs and assistance. Holding bitcoin isn't risky in my opinion as it was popular to the market which make it stronger, hence it won't fall so much. What risky in Bitcoin as it continure rising up is to trade it to other currencies.
902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 24, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Feeling my worst when gambling is lost when I want to earn back the money was lost in the previous games. I told myself that to control myself but I did not do. I lose, I want to earn back the money lost should have bet more and the still losing. But I still bet higher and the result is I lost both the car and telephone. At that time I was depressed a lot, but I was still lucky because there beside is my wife, she helped me a lot. Now I still gamble, but I just see it as a form of entertainment fun. I recommend should not charm gambling otherwise the consequences will be very big, you can lose everything.
Just remember that it's very hard for someone who's been addicted to just keep gambling, even if you do manage to do it 'for entertainment' at this time.
You could end up on a slippery slope back to addiction.

Not saying everybody is like that, everyone's got a different personality, but addicts just tend to exhibit that kind of behavior in general.

I started gambling with fun only and now I am feeling like a strong bond is there between me and gambling. Now if I don't gamble for even 2-3 days then I feel like dejected and very upset which is in fact dangerous as I am loosing some serious money now. Anyways though since my family knows about my habit they will stop me once I cross all the limits.

That is called an addiction. It is not even gambling anymore.
There should be some limitation when doing this kind of things.
Whenever you feel like you are waging too much money you should think of what will the outcome would be.
We should lose sometimes so that we can learn on how to control it and somehow the next win will be felt to the bones.  Grin
Certainly this is what we called an additction. As far as you can't control yourself not do such thing regardless you know you don't need it, it's called an addiction and part of it is a risk of losing money. Addiction also can be categorized for those people who know that they can't control themseleves regardless on the people warned them about its risk.
903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: February 24, 2017, 01:57:51 PM
Well for me gambling help me in times that I am a little short for withdrawing my money,
I tried it few times when I was a little short let's say about 2 or 3 usd then I tried to make some easy money through gambling,
And I won guess I was just lucky everytime I tried it and everytime that I really need some money,
I think, the lesser bet you put, the higher the probability chance of winning. You're fortunate to have that luck. However, don't expect that you will always win, you might lose sometimes though it's only small amount.
904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: February 24, 2017, 01:13:54 PM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?

For me, gambling is one that gives happiness to those people who loves "taking chances".
Not all people who are involved in gambling are addict, others played just for fun why? Because playing gambling can remove stress. I can say that having strategy or technique is one key to win. When betting, it gives pressure but if you win the game the result is happiness.


You're are right on that point of view however? it may result inversely proportional to stuffs you said such as it gives happines if he/she wins on gambling. Once you lose your bet, you would be sad and might cause you to be greedier and deppresed. In my point of view, gambling is addictivre, it's a matter of discipline on how you can handle/manage it.
905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 24, 2017, 11:31:57 AM
I think there is no special strategy in dice gambling, which I do is play with the casual, not pressure and it just makes the dice gambling as entertainment. If we just focus for the win, then everything looks ugly and make our emotions if lost.

That's the best way to play it and not any kind of strategy that is just potentially a losing one. Well, actually all the strategy you can think of in gambling usually fails. That is the reason why casinos are still here. There are millions of slot games in casinos, why do you guys think they are still operational for the longest time? If the smartest people has already said it can't be done, then it will not be. A strategy whatever it is for dice will never work.
Certainly, there is no certain in dice game. However, the mood of the gambler would help him to make a profit. The more pressured that gambler to pursue huge profit, the higher the chance he might lose in a row. Hence, just simply being relax in rolling the dice, you could be more focused what bet you are going to put your money.
906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 22, 2017, 12:21:27 AM
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Yeah. I think it's better if you have a big capital to distribute your money into several smaller investments. That way, in case anything goes wrong, you'll have a fall back and you'll not be left regretting what you did wrong. Since investing is considered as risk taking, small investments are a lot safer for me, though the roi may be a bit small as well, it may well be worth it in the long run

This way of thinking reminds me of a gambler's way of thinking when he creates a strategy: "rather than risk all the money at once I'd better devide them in small parts so I won't lose everything at once". Sadly it doesn't work. In reality you can lose thousand times betting with small amounts and also you can win betting all at once. The same goes for investments.
Gamblers are smarts where they always find ways on how to make money from gambling even they are risking too much money just to win profit. If i lose i always think for new strategies where i always create new settings to win. Don't give up on your dream and for what you want to reach. Investment is good when you are choose icos.
Gamblers I think are not just smart but strategic too. They know how to handle the risk of what the are doing.
Finding such different way or different bets would really help to win a game. Let's just don't affraid to try other settings, try other bets and don't remain on one settings only.



907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 21, 2017, 11:39:51 PM
Giving up gambling is a hard task, you should have a satisfied mind to give up gambling for the better. Once you enter the gambling sector the alternate winning and loss keeps you in a excited level. This excitement will last till one goes bankrupt and start to borrow.
This is a risk in a gambling game. we can not stop in the middle of the game. when we have run out of money, then we will continue to try to find money anywhere until we can play gambling again. This is a matter that can not be removed easily.
This is probably the most important thing not to do when gambling, don't play until your money runs out, because you will try to find any money to keep playing, play for a period of time or until you win or lose a certain amount of money but never play until your money has disappear.
Discipline indeedly is needed in order to  do that. This is quite tough to do specially when you feel that you're lucky in betting or rolling. The moment that you are too confident on yourself, the moment your greediness triggred which leads you to bet more which causes you to lose your money.
908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and betting?? on: February 21, 2017, 11:28:13 PM
When playing gambling games it really involves an amounr of money like bitcoin, so as apart of gambling betting is your actual action ang you need to bet your money as a part of gambling activity. You must bet using the cash money or the bitcoin when you play online gambling games alone at home or in live gambling at any casino at your place.
Betting and rolling are the actions that you do in gambling. All gambling ofcourse need a money in order to be played. However, there are some gambling site that gives free faucet, allowing you to practise the game qothout losing a money. Cash and bitcoin isn't the only money you can play but also other currencies and altcoins such as doge, dash, htc and many more.
909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: February 21, 2017, 02:57:33 PM
Well simply because it has lower risk rather than throwing a dice in a gambling site , If you are aware of the market and analyse it properly there is a big chance you can get either small or big profit  but still it is a chance there still a probability that your going to lose.
That's true trading is where you can minimize your lose and you can maximize your profit while in gambling dice there are 30% percent chance of winning and 70% chance of loosing and just throwing your money for nothing for fun Smiley But if your luck accurate in your play you can win big profit somehow

I realize many members are replying that trading is better than gambling, and as you said in dice 30% chances to win and i want to tell in gambling all games have 30% chances to win and 70% chance to confirm of lose. But if i vote for trading, because in trading whenever i got lose than i also recover it, it need sometime to recover the lose but it possible. But in gambling if i try to recover my lose than always i get double lose, that's point of view, i prefer trading.
Otherwise for me both are risky, sometime profitable and many time lose-able.         
The risk is not same in both, But in both risk is there. If you choose to gamble your profit and loss will depend on your luck and knowledge. But in Trading your profit and loss will decide on market price and your time and luck. You are right in trading we can get back our loss safely. It will take some time, but we can make it. In gambling it is not easy in this process, we have a chance to more money.
there is rare case when someone lost the whole capital when do trading but there is guaranteed for those people who gamble in a casino to lost the whole money which staked, and it is make a clear difference i think .

of course trading are better becaue of how the return more realistic and has less risk .

i cannot call trading as less risk area rather than gambling since of them got same risk behind if you are not knowledgable in every moves you are doing in there, but in trading you can assure that you can gain back your losses by having an alternative coins to trade and by monitoring it well unlike in gambling where we will lose huge if we are trying to play even if we lose so much and the luck is not behind us.

I agree, in gambling there is no other way to recover your losses but to gamble again. That will just result in losing even more m9ney. Unlike in trading, if you are good at it you can recover your losses from it quickly. There are some factors that can make your trading successful. Unlike in gambling, instinct and luck is your only chance of winning.
It is true that you can recover your loss in trading without taking its risk. All you have to do is wait for your currency to strengthen so that you can trade your pair with hi pips which will result to higher profits. However, the challenge here is that if you can't wait for that long term of trading, you'll definitely get lose of your money.
910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you keep your bitcoins? on: February 18, 2017, 11:29:57 AM
I keep my bitcoins on trusted wallets such as Xapo, Block chain and Coinbase. Yes I use all the three. I split my bitcoins to prevent more loss if one wallet address is hacked or the wallet service shuts down. I only use trusted and proven wallet services because one time, I used snappybtc wallet service but then, I can no longer access the site. It says it is down. Fortunately it is empty.
Using multiple wallets really help to secured your Bitcoin account since there is no impossible from hackers. In my place, I used blockchain to store huge amount od BTC since it has a capability to maximize the security of my wallet compared to other wallets. In terms of my second wallet, I used local Bitcoin exchnger to convert my btc to fiat money vice versa and also to use it as my second wallet. Using multiple wallets are really effective and will make you comfortable yo store huge of money online without fear of hackers.
911  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: February 18, 2017, 10:27:20 AM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?

If you ask the traders here if they are earning a monthly income constantly in trading, I bet only few are going to say yes and not

all of them actually does. The price of crytocurrencies fluctuate greatly thats why predicting accurately is just plainly impossible and

it nothing guarantees that it will exist for a very long time. My answer is there is a chance if you are skilled and uses a huge capital

for it but to be blunt the chances are one in a million so just stick to your job.
There is no really certain regarding the income from trading bitcoin, everything is uncertain since the market aren't stable. If you ask any traders if they are earning at fixed rate, I'm pretty sure none of them would say yes since Bitcoin trading can be strong or weak. News also affects Bitcoin trading same as forex. A negative or postive news can affect bitcoin.
912  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: February 18, 2017, 09:50:09 AM
I regret the use bitcoin might be just one thing. that is, I never really meant it to save bitcoin I get in a very long time. it makes me sorry to see the current bitcoin prices, and think; that maybe I could buy a car if the store bitcoin I have had in a long time.
We can't blame ourselves since we don't expect Bitcoin will rise like that since it has a potential. However, if we just predict that Bitcoin will hit we it has now, we should be a millionaire right now. Atleast, it's not too late to be on the pump of Bitcin. It has a potential that it will rise up more. Hence, we shouldn't miss this opportunity.
913  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Newbie on: February 18, 2017, 07:43:07 AM
That one is noted. Yobit got a lot of coins in their but you dont know what to pick because they dont clean some who are not even moving anymore, sometried reviving it just for another scam reason.
I hope Bitsane also takes the reputation of picking the coins that will surely stay for long. Just dont let those shitcoins be registered to them.

If you want clean list of coins, you can also try poloniex.com . They have a good list of altcoins and they have good service too. I have tried bitfinex, yobit and poloniex, so far polo is better. But I also trade in yobit for scam coins being pumped. It is an easy way to earn money if you spot it early.
Trading such scam coins are not good to trade though it was being pumped because you can't ascertain when will you sell your coins with that scam coins. What if no one buy your scam coins? That would be unfortunate because it may continue dropping that will result money lost. In terms of good trading site, I think Poloniex is the best since its volume is huge. It's easy to make your coins be sold and it's easy to buy coins. Also, there is no fake volume occured.
914  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: February 18, 2017, 05:14:26 AM
There are many different ways of earning bit coin.
One can start with free faucet btc in taken some task every day.
Even there are bit coin games and betting all this is where we pick free bit coin.

I do not think the faucet sites and bitcoin games are a good idea to win btc. It is very difficult to get btc from such sites. And you spend a lot of time.

The best way to earn a bitcoin is to trade. $ 10 for the start will be enough.
We know that we can earn a very low amount of bitcoin on a faucet sites as well as bitcoin games that is considered as faucets too, its a good move to leave faucet and start discovering signature campaign or other jobs here in the forum that you can possibly work like social media campaigns.
Well, if you are wise enough, you would not spend to much of your time in faucets, that will not help you to mature in terms of seeking greater opportunity. Trading and investing is the best options here, but we need to have a capital in order to enter, let's understand that there is no easy money if you want a good income, you need to work for it and worst thing you have to risk what you can afford.

Not every time the results are good but that depends on how you manage yourself, always seek for bigger once so you will be satisfied.
Ofcourse, time is very important in money makint. If ther is huge opportunity, why would you not take it? Let's not waste our time in some stuffs like faucets, you'll lose most of your electricity bill than you earn from it. I agree, trading and investing is the greatest way to earn money in bitcoin. However, for additional income let's grab the opportunity of earning from services such as signature campaign and altcoin campaign.
915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How would you store >100 Bitcoins? on: February 17, 2017, 10:37:01 PM
I will divide my high amount into many web wallets. because,one day if someone hack your bitcoin wallet, He just stole a part of your money, not all. So you can avoid this by creating some wallets and save your money their.
But you can find a lot of secure web wallet which the possibility of hacking is too low,
so you can rely on them.

I think, you don't need to creat multiple wallets. Blockchain is safe enough to protect your Bitcoins. What is needed is secured your account and maximize your sedurity in order to prevent hacking. I also do turning of emails do when there is a log in attempt, there is no chance that I'm going to approve it since I dom't open my email.
916  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading ways on: February 17, 2017, 12:42:51 PM
There is no easy way to learn it. You have to put your own money on it and read the trading theory. You will get the real experience.
You don't need to put money in order to learn in trading, there are demo account for trading that would help you to practise your skills. I do agree, you must read some tips, guides, and advice. This would help you to te be more professional in trading. Once you got the knowledge, experience, and you think you are good enough to initiate trading, that's the time you'll put your miney at stake. Ofcourse, first time in trading is really intensiver, however once you know how it works and how to handle it, you will not regret you learned it.
917  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: February 17, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
Bitcoin trading is exchanging your bitcoin to any form of fiat like usd, jpy, etc. and vice versa. It is risky because bitcoin's price is very volatile. It can rise or drop for more than 1$ in just a single day. If you bought in a price that is too high it will be difficult for you to sell it at even in a higher price, it can take some months to sell it. A single negative news can affect the price of bitcoin which makes it to do bitcoin trading.
Actually, I see bitcoin's risk in trading as I seen the risk in forex trading. A single news can a affect one's currency. They are both risky. The problem why forex traders tend not to trade with Bitcoin is because, they can't predict what is the future if Bitcoin and since Bitcoin is a new currency that fiat currency.
918  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best trading places on: February 15, 2017, 02:04:07 PM
For me, i only knew best trading place which is ccex trading site. It has a very profitable investment and mostly has a good feedback from traders and they really enjoyed benefit what they have invested. My friend recommended this site to me because of its reputable feedbacks and I am also planning to do trading in the future if I could save lot of bitcoin in my wallet.
C-cex has the best features, easiest trading site to do trading and low fee for every trade you make. However? The problem in that site is fake volume, many shitcoins, and low volum of btc trade. It accepts too many coins, making other coins to get lower value and will result to dump. It's still better to trade with few pairs but consist of high volume btc. The btc volume certainly indicate the value or how legit is a crypto coin which won't fall down continuously.
919  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Scam indicators? on: February 15, 2017, 12:56:26 PM
It is really hard to detect, the one that I know is the site is registered using a fake identity, and the site offering over high profit then the site will be potential a scammed site, and then the site is asking to deposit without giving the detail how they earning the profit, asking the people in this forum will be a great idea to avoid being scammed
It's not hard to detect wether the site will scam you. You can see if an investment is scam ad they show  when the investment will go, or how will they earn money from it. Ofcourse, if there is no concrete project, investors will just promis to earn, but not the developer itself, then that is scam. Although if at first you get your payout, it'll end up of not releasing the payout, hebce that is how they  scam people. For me, the more the platform is beautiful, the more it's impossible.
920  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: February 15, 2017, 12:40:01 PM
The crypto world can become unpredictable sometimes, making our choices of investing into it, a very limited one. From scams to ponzis, there have been many losses from investors, yet making it very difficult to find a reliable investment.

But on the bright side, you could still invest into assets and commodities with your crypto like Gold and Silver. Then, if done right you could profit along the way with a good strategy.

As for me, I only decide to invest into gold (by exchanging BTC to Gold) and into some NXT and BURST assets.

What would be your investment strategy? Please share your tips, advice, or any good strategy you would use to safeguard your crypto investments.  Smiley
I think the best investment strategy is through spreading your money through various investments. It gives less risk if one investment falls down. It would also help you to earn more since in every investment, there is always potential which you may get more chance of profit if you would take many of oppurtunities.
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