Hi. Plz use internationally recommended Bitcoin IPO standard "Warm Regards". If you are trying to comply with the *other* RFC, then a mere "Kind Regard" will do.

I've heard their 2.0 engine will also match aids and basks.

I think that such a direct, frontal attack on someone that may not even be controlling the account (depends on how much you believe in crackpot theories) is overstepping your bounds and jurisdiction. Regardless of how you or I may personally feel, I think this steps firmly over the line from "they see me trollin'" straight to outrightly bigoted Internet bullying. Shame on you.

So what's the point in having the shares if you're not selling them? Are you hoping to cash in on a sale of the company at some point in the future? Why not just have 0.5% (or whatever) of the company allocated in the event of a sale as part of the listing agreement?

I think AcoinL.L.C's quoted post speaks to the specific concerns and question(s).

@pascal257 - he's right, just tried it from Google South Africa. I've also never visited their site.


To the point, though, BitcoinBourse is endemic of a long string of failures and garbage "businesses".

Nearly a year ago I tried Markus' Bitcoin "debit card". Here is my review: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=213832.msg2705402#msg2705402

It basically consists of a TransCash debit card with massive limits on it, and then you "buy coupons" on the site and they load the EUR into the card for you. It's not automated, it's not seamless, and they aren't even issuing the cards. You can confirm it is the same outfit by checking the whois data on thebitcoincard.co.uk and bitcointocard.com.

Fast forward to now. The website (thebitcoincard.co.uk) has been suspended for non-payment and is about to expire, so anyone who actually bought a debit card from them is now stuck with no way to reload it. He's probably in very deep water for issuing cards to non-Europeans (I'm in South Africa, after all). And yet for this complete non-entity that works poorly (if at all) and may be contravening the agreements they have with TransCash, they're asking for 675 Bitcoin in "investment".

OP: nobody is "working with the forum moderators" or anything quite so conspiratorial. Rather, I would say that if it has a provably unsettling history a principle applies - "if it looks like a scamduck, swims like a scamduck, and quacks like a scamduck, then it's a scamduck."

The thing you quoted was actually a link. The blue text should have given it away. Here it is in case of struggling-to-operate-computer syndrome:

http://bitcoin-betting-guide.com/james-cannings-blog/seedcoin-fund-i-update-no-gocoin-what-next/

Good responses, it shows a lot more depth to this than has been made available.

I hope this goes well and you get the funding SeedCoin are raising. Based on the responses I do think you have a shot at success in your endeavour and I hope it works out for you guys:)

Spot on. I've been saying this for a while, but with few exceptions (eg. ASICMINER) mining is only profitable from a fiat perspective. Also, any savvy investor who wanted to "get in" to mining would just partner up with (or even employee) a domain expert. They wouldn't throw Bitcoin at randoms on the Internet.

So were mtgox and Neo&Bee.

*IF* you can find a Bitcoin business (going back to my blog post from today) that will increase your Bitcoins, then it's an awesome deal.

The reality is that for a "Bitcoin business" to truly be a "Bitcoin business" they need to have very few fiat overheads. 99.9% of the businesses that think they're "Bitcoin businesses" really aren't. The investors would do better off (from a fiat perspective) just holding their coins, and they wouldn't run the risk of losing them through goxxing/ineptitude/etc.

That attitude changes after a couple of bad investments or after observing the large number of outright scams and inept management teams here.

I disagree. I think there's also scope for:

- Investors who are short on Bitcoin
- Investors looking to diversify their cryptocurrency holdings
- Fiat investors who don't want to hold crypto, but want to invest in Bitcoin-based or Bitcoin-involved businesses
- Fiat investors who don't care about crypto, want to invest in a company, and are happy to to use Bitcoin as a medium of exchange when investing and when earning dividends

Couldn't reach a deal, trade not executed and his sell order is still open.

Too high, man...I'll consider it at 0.000350. I'm on IRC on Freenode, catch me there or here.

Depends on your situation...if you have the ability to move and start something then European countries that are pro-English are good, as is Hong Kong, Australia, and South Africa. If you have to move and work first, then it depends on the education and skillset you have and where you can find work:)

It answers the question you asked in the title of this post regarding why investors demand personal info. We aren't breaking the law demanding that information, and we aren't responsible for SEC compliance on their behalf. Which is why there's (thankfully) plenty of non-US businesses to invest in:)

If you're in the US, you may want to consider joining all the bright people that are getting out.

This is, by far, the most confusing of the Seedcoin II "offerings".

You have no defined revenue streams except for "paid membership". You briefly mention advertising in one breath, and in another you say "the mainstream media receives a large part of its revenues from advertising fees paid by other highly centralized industries." You seem to want to create some sort of libertarian news movement...but then you cap your pitch off with "This material is meant for professional investment advisors, high net-worth individuals and sophisticated investors only." I can't decide if this is insulting or farcical.

There's also this: "[the media's] coverage of decentralization initiatives is rarely fair or balanced" - this hasn't been true for ages, most especially recently with all the news coverage as a direct result of the global rise in privacy concerns. But don't worry, you guys are going to be an "independent crowd-powered news channel focusing on decentralised technologies" - ok......"such as Crypto Currencies, P2P Energy Grids, Urban Farming, Direct Democracy, 3D Printing, Decentralized Internet, Mesh Networks" - dat decentralised 3D printing, yo.

For this you want 250 BTC, just on $125k at present value and 100 BTC more than TagPesa wants (who at least has a vaguely feasible idea for an actual product), with vague hand-waving promises of revenue and no details about what you need that insanely large amount of money for. Oh, except "reaching out to new viewers via targeted advertising on specialist websites"...and "attending and reporting from relevant meet-ups, conferences & expos around the world." So investors are paying for you to advertise on your buddies' websites and then take a paid-for vacation???

You have not demonstrated the ability to produce any material of worth. I'd be more inclined to throw money at CryptoCoinsNews - they've actually shown the ability to produce content despite having a group of mostly uneducated reporters (including a surprisingly lucid 15 year old).

Also, we live in a world where blogs, Reddit, and Twitter are the way people consume news (even IRC is experiencing a grand reawakening), so the people most active in those communities are the news makers and the news breakers. Producing a weekly show is very 2007. And don't forget, for all your libertarian callings, you've made no mention about how you'll disseminate that show without centralised, controlled services like, you know, YouTube.