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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth
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on: March 26, 2014, 06:59:17 PM
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Made my order in December 9th, 2013, today March 25th, 2014 NOTHING.... I MEAN NOTHING, ZERO, NADA has arrive to me yet
Bellow is my order history:Order History Date Added Status Tracking No. Comment 09/12/2013 Awaiting Bitcoin confirmations 09/12/2013 Processing and pre-fabrication 13/12/2013 Fabrication Aluminium has arrived (yay!), plastic is being moulded at the speed of soft thunder, and we're fabricating away! 06/01/2014 Shipped, pending customs check. Thank you for your patience over this holiday season. Your parcel has gone off to customs, who will now do a little x-ray (or whatever they do there) and a paperwork check to make sure all is in order. Once that's done we'll be given tracking numbers, which we'll send on to you:) 03/02/2014 Shipped to customer CN******ZA We've gotten your tracking number back from customs, and your parcel is on its way to you:)
DO NOT BUY FROM THEM, THEY ARE SCAMERS Scammers, with two m's, and no, we obviously aren't:) A CN...ZA tracking number is surface mail. Per the delivery and returns policy ( https://openrigs.com/information/information&information_id=6) the transit period on that shipping method is 6-10 weeks (up to a maximum of 13 weeks). If your item has been in transit since the beginning of Feb it means it's only been in transit for 7 weeks, so you're just barely in the expected transit period. When you made your purchase you had to choose a shipping method, and were reminded at several points to read the delivery and returns policy before you could do this. Before you could make payment you had to tick a box to indicate you had read and agreed to the delivery and returns policy, which you ticked. If you haven't received the item within the maximum transit time you agreed to we can conclude your shipment has gone missing. In that event, please reach out to us and we'll file a claim with our cargo insurance to immediately refund/replace your order.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 26, 2014, 02:49:38 PM
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It's now almost April 1st. I don't think that my order will EVER arrive. Fluffy -- you IGNORED my previous post. Please IMMEDIATELY refund my order.
MD
Sorry - I didn't mean to ignore it, I was replying to a bunch of posts simultaneously:) PM me your order number and I'll submit paperwork tomorrow, as long as it's outside of the transit period we can refund/replace asap.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 26, 2014, 05:40:13 AM
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Hi fluffypony, Can you post in this thread what's the latest order received by the customer so far? Indicate the order date, shipping method and date received by the customer. My order is #1286 , date of order : Jan 4, 2014, shipping method : surface mail, date to be received : May 2014 Kindly give us an update of what you have delivered so far in the hands of your customer, so we can see if goods are really moving. Some members here can verify. Thanks. Customers aren't obligated to let us know when they receive their order, and tracking (especially for surface mail) isn't always updated. The most recent order I know of offhand that has been received is 1711 (Aramex, but local, so that doesn't help). The most recent EMS international order that I know has been received is 1597 - ordered 2014/02/05, out of fabrication on 2014/02/17, final delivery 2014/03/07 ( tracking). The most recent surface mail order that I know has been received is 1103 - ordered 2013/12/20 (in our holiday period), out of fabrication on 2014/01/14, final delivery 2014/03/13 ( tracking). The most recent Aramex order that I know has been received is 1690 - ordered 2014/02/28, out of fabrication on 2014/03/13, final delivery on 2014/03/24.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 25, 2014, 04:33:45 PM
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any news?
Ok. received your PM.....
not quite what I expected
"they said it's from the time it leaves the country (Jan 10th)"
sounds not fair. in USA - for ex. it`s from tendered date. Any proofs like official post office rules text?
The customs pre-clearance process is not part of the postal process, so the tendered date would at any rate be Jan 7th (so it's near as nothing as makes no odds). The other aspect, of course, is that our marine/cargo insurers are the ones that dictate policy in this regard, not the post office. If we used the post office's insurance it would be significantly more expensive and they don't cover damage, only loss, and only months after submitting the relevant paperwork to them, which would just add insult to injury, so to speak;)
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 24, 2014, 12:56:33 PM
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Hey. What you consider to be a shipping date? track # CN025030119ZA is it a day that you claim package was tendered to a post office or any other? or a date when it first time showed up a in system? ?? Let me know my shipping date and a date 90 days shipping time expires. That's a good question - let me check with our insurers and come back to you, it's just about 3pm here so I should be able to catch them before the office closes:)
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 23, 2014, 04:34:17 PM
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Giorgiana 6 GPU stackable... Nice concept, bad layout?
Frames are built. I'd rather be posting pictures of everything plugged in and running, however, I've run into some issues. There's absolutely no way I'm running 6 GPUs in this thing without buying even more cables or hacking the frame up.
1) Pre-drilled power supply screws are slightly too wide for my psu. So I can't mount them. 2) I don't like how the psu mounts are oriented to begin with. Your PCI-e cables essentially have to do a snake to get back around and to the top/back of the cards. My cables just aren't long enough. 3) PCI-e slot location in reference to the 6 GPU mount points: Wouldn't it make sense to center the slots to the mount points? I'm going to have to daisy chain more PCI-e risers than expected to reach the left-most mount points. 4) This could be partially resolved by closing the distance between the bottom of the cards and the motherboard. Do we really need all of that space? 5) My back left motherboard mounting post was about 1-2mm off center. Unable to screw that point down.
I'm exhausted from all of this. I actually bought some 1/2" angle aluminum tonight and am thinking about converting one of the frames into a gridseed rack.
To address each of your concerns: 1. That's by design so two PSUs can be mounted next to each other. As it says in the Component Placement section of the assembly guide: " If you have a single PSU only, you may find it convenient to connect it between the two PSU bars and screw the PSU into both support bars. This may require slightly shortening the short horizontal bars, using the same technique outlined above. If you have two PSUs, you may want to mount them next to each other, screwed into each of the PSU support bars, or on top of each other (again, this may require shortening the short horizontal bars). If you have three PSUs, you will want to mount two of them next to each other, and then screw the third into the corner PSU support bar." 2. We played around with centre-mounted PSUs, but ultimately it was more trouble than it was worth, as the PSU rests on the same crossbar as the motherboard. Additionally, it required extra connectors and created a sag-point in the middle of the back (where it is, structurally speaking, relatively weak) so it wasn't a good design for "stackability". 3. The whole point of having risers is to move the cards up and away from each other, so whilst we've tested designs with less space between cards we have found them to be sub-optimal compared to our current spacing. If we had to put the cards directly above the slots they would have no space between them, and you may as well just put them straight on the board. 4. Yes, we need all that space, as all of our existing designs convert between horizontal and vertical layouts just by changing a few connectors around (currently not detailed in the assembly guide, but see: https://i.imgur.com/pIOIsQv.jpg / https://i.imgur.com/3d1HpMj.jpg / https://i.imgur.com/k2xdW2g.jpg as a reference). If we lowered the distance that would not be possible, as we'd be decreasing the "width" of a vertically laid out frame and it would no longer be stable. Also, it seems that USB-driven risers are extremely popular, so many of our customers have risers with a vertical reach of 100cm, making this and the point above a non-issue. 5. Sorry about that - the reference boards we used to drill the holes were more weirdly laid out than expected; we've recently adjusted things to accommodate that. Depending on your use case you can either ignore that mounting point, or re-drill a hole for the standoff, or just let the board sit on the standoff without being screwed in.
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Openrigs.com STAY AWAY!
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on: March 22, 2014, 03:08:56 AM
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Order ID: 1194
I ordered on December 28th 2013... That's right, 3 $%#& months ago and I still haven't received a product!!!
Useless to me now even if it did arrive.
Whilst I sympathise with you, and I am truly sorry you had a bad experience, I must clarify this. You ordered in the middle of our holiday period, and agreed to the very prominently displayed holiday notice (listed on the form during checkout and still listed on our delivery and returns policy page). That notwithstanding, your item has shipped out to you using the extremely slow shipping method you selected.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth
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on: March 21, 2014, 07:57:41 PM
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For my order, 10 weeks is up either Tuesday or Thursday of next week, depending on whether you use 1/14 or 1/16 as the date of shipment out of the country. I do not believe the "+" modifies the expectations of the customer, nor should it.
I will be glad to receive the frame if - and when - I finally receive it. But it has been so long now that I have had to go with other options in the interim. I understand some things are out of your control, but an entire third of a year has passed since I ordered the frame. That is simply incredible.
To answer the OP, and to be fair to fluffypony: are they a scam? No, I don't think so. But are some of us dissatisfied with the absurd shipping times we have encountered? Absolutely.
I fully agree - and that's one of the things that we're working hard at resolving in a permanent way, so that future orders won't experience the lengthy shipping times our early orders have. We'll get there - thanks for being patient with us!
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenRigs.com - Aluminium Frames for Mining Rigs
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on: March 21, 2014, 07:56:17 PM
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Just wondering where my order is.. Order #1022 (December 12) My last email received was January 14, saying it was sent to customs, but I never received a tracking email. I also checked out as a guest so can't check the status on the site. D'oh - we've added a guest tracking portal, but only more recent guest checkout orders got automagically informed about it;) In future if you need to you can use this link: http://openrigs.com/account/guestI'll PM you your tracking details so you don't have to worry about fiddling with guest checkout logins:)
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth
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on: March 21, 2014, 07:41:52 PM
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Ordered my frame at the end of November during the sale and I'm almost four months out without receipt. That is far more than any possible surface mail estimates.
Not so - our transit timelines on our delivery and returns policy ( https://openrigs.com/information/information&information_id=6) and when they are listed on each shipping method during checkout all state that they are transit timelines only, and exclude any other stages in the order. Specifically: "Shipping via regular surface mail typically takes up to 10 weeks (even longer if there are import delays at the destination country - the official stance from the post office is that it can take up to 13 weeks), and via courier typically takes a week or two at the most. Somewhat in the middle is EMS, which normally takes 2-4 weeks to arrive. Note that these timelines are from the day it leaves the country, and excludes the scheduling phase, fabrication, and customs pre-clearance." Looks like yours has been in transit for around 8.5 weeks, so you should receive it in the next couple of weeks:)
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Openrigs.com STAY AWAY!
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on: March 21, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
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You should warn people before they order that it can take FOUR months before they ever see their order, just a thought.
Absolutely - we've since removed the surface mail shipping option, but when it was still on we tried to make the timelines clear during checkout in three distinct ways: 1. A reminder to read the delivery and returns policy when selecting a shipping method: 2. Timelines directly on each of the shipping methods when selecting them: 3. Making the customer tick a box to indicate they have read and agree with the delivery and returns policy before they can make payment: The delivery and returns policy has now got a pretty blue flowchart ( https://openrigs.com/information/information&information_id=6) that it didn't have when you placed your order, precisely because people seemed to forego reading the first two paragraphs.
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Openrigs.com STAY AWAY!
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on: March 21, 2014, 04:19:46 PM
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order 669, ordered 11/28/13
Still haven't received anything from them.
Looks like it sat around waiting for a vessel to the US, and then left the country on 2014/01/21, so in transit for about 8.5 weeks. Expected transit time for surface mail to the US is 6-10 weeks (up to a maximum of 13 weeks), so you should receive it within the next couple of weeks:)
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth
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on: March 21, 2014, 03:54:31 PM
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So many customers have reported receiving their units that the answer is obviously no. If you haven't received your order it is most likely that you selected surface mail during checkout (an extremely slow shipping method). Examples of OpenRigs units in the wild: http://www.republicofsoftware.com/rosrig01/https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?/topic/6014-openrigs-review-lulz/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg5082140#msg5082140 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg5084496#msg5084496https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347756.msg4800434#msg4800434https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470944.msg5330069#msg5330069Yes, there ARE customers that have ordered and chose surface mail without realising how slow it is. We have done our best to accommodate them and assist them, but ultimately there isn't much we can do - the shipping timelines are listed when you choose a shipping method. We've also removed surface mail as a shipping option, to our detriment, as we could no longer trust that people were choosing it knowingly and willingly - everyone suddenly claims ignorance when they realise that a published transit time of 6-10+ weeks means just that. The vast majority of serious negativity has been courtesy of a known scammer that I "scorned" by calling him out, recalling his parcel before it left the country, and refunding him. All of his sock-puppet accounts have had negative trust ratings when they're spotted. More info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484653.0
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth
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on: March 21, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
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I ordered 2 X frames on 12 Dec, paid via paypal. Shipping to Canada. Website stated product shipped 09 Jan.
The issue is that I still haven't received any package. Tracking number has been provided, and it is confusing. Either they are the victims of the South African postal system (likely the 2nd worst in the world... North Korea likely has the worst), or they are a scam. My package is reportedly in Capemail as of 23 Jan.
Sent email today, and still havn't heard anything.
Will advise when I figure out what is going on,
Ryan
Packages are scanned when they *leave* an area, not when they arrive...so your item was put on a boat on Jan 23rd:) You can confirm this by tracking your order on the CanadaPost website - there are no status updates when it's in-between countries. Try tracking this one on CanadaPost, for example: CN025026803ZA (or, as a comparison, this EMS shipment to Canada: EE028408355ZA)
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