Flat Earth

[sirazimuth]

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I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
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Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

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[notbatman]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

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I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
...

Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

You've got two quotes with no context other that it relates to the bible all while screaming I'm a liar. Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

"... I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. This was before I discovered the firmament (dome) and the inconsolable fact that somebody had to have built it. ..."

See once what I said is put into the context it was written in, you look like the "lying sack of shit". Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

[BADecker]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Mommy set the table for supper, so the earth is flat?

Troposcatter doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

[Astargath]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

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I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. ....

...The Bible describes the construction of a dome (firmament) over Earth by giants (Titans). Science has lead me to God.
...

Jeezus dude, if ya gonna be a lying sack of shit, at least try to cover your tracks a little better...

You've got two quotes with no context other that it relates to the bible all while screaming I'm a liar. Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

"... I never picked up the Bible once in my life except to toss a copy in the trash. This was before I discovered the firmament (dome) and the inconsolable fact that somebody had to have built it. ..."

See once what I said is put into the context it was written in, you look like the "lying sack of shit". Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

'' Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?'' Yes you did mention that several times which is kind of weird considering your god said not to kill people, with those words you are going to hell my friend.

[notbatman]

^^^ Modern "satellite" dishes use what's called troposcatter technology developed by the US military; a signal is transmitted from radio towers then bounced off of the troposphereic plane and received by the dish antenna.

"Moon bounce" (Moon not actually required) is when a signal (usually laser light) is bounced off of the dome (firmament).

Except that there is no need for troposcatter on a FE. It was developed to get around the curvature.

  

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Mommy set the table for supper, so the earth is flat?

Troposcatter doesn't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.

That's where you're wrong, the radio signal is bounced off of the troposphereic plane; plane trigonometry doesn't do spheres.


Image source: Fading Correlation Analysis in MIMO-OFDM Troposcatter Communications: Space, Frequency, Angle and Space-Frequency Diversity | https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7000551


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The atmospheric planes, with the troposhphere being one plane in a multitude of planes, a plane being, in both a mathematical and physical sense that which goes over a plain, it forms a refractive layer and that layer, a plane surface together with the multitude of planes form a hemesphere above the plain. Think of a bubble sticking to a surface full of layers of different coloured gasses.

Some planes have the property of being a liquid crystal and display the Sun, Moon and stars. An electromagnetic signal is projected off of the mirrored nickel-iron oxide exterior (micro) of the firmament's concave surface (macro) to achieve this plasma effect.


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The rain falls mostly on the plain in Spain.

[BADecker]

Image source: Fading Correlation Analysis in MIMO-OFDM Troposcatter Communications: Space, Frequency, Angle and Space-Frequency Diversity | https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7000551

So you think you can explain that^^ is a way that you will understand, eh.

[sirazimuth]

^^^ You're a fucking liar, a sextant can measure the Sun when it's directly above you at 90 degrees, the fucking scale has 120 degrees on it. YOU FUCKING LIAR!

Fuck off with your strawman argument, there's a radio horizon on a plain.

Go curl up in a gas oven if you don't have point to make.

Did I mention that you should go crawl into a gas oven?

[exemplaar]

Guys, how I adore you.  Already 15563 comments in this thread.  I have not visited this topic for almost 2 years and thought that the disputes regarding this issue have already been resolved, but I see that the conflict regarding the shape of our planet or the plane of the Earth does grow more and more.  I heard that recently China announced new programs about building a new settlement on the moon.  I think this news is like a nuclear bomb.  By the way, North Koreans seriously think that their cores are born in space.

Maybe you should visit this important topic more frequently...



+bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKHTOw6UeNk

[kissmarx]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

[BADecker]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

^^^ Exactly!

What scientists have done is to take loads of things we see, and add to them loads of practical findings (math and physics), and put them all together. The result is the standard understanding of globe earth and the way the universe exists in their general descriptions.

Flat earth science is incomplete, and has contradictions that are far greater than the few seeming contradictions in standard science. Much of what the FE people talk about doesn't have anything to do with FE. In addition, their magnification of certain anomalies in standard math and science is extremely outweighed by anomalies and contradictions in FE science.

To maintain the idea of flat earth, FE people simply use focus in an unfair and incorrect way, to make it seem like FE is the way things exist. Why? Three basic reasons:
1. Limited thinking ability;
2. Religious-like zealousness;
3. Trolling;
... 4. Any combination of the above 3.

[exemplaar]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

Like this:


and this:


or even this:

[Initscri]

Only this would be the #1 topic in Off-Topic. Just sayin'

[odolvlobo]

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of the altitude.

1. "appears" doesn't mean "is".  Scale and distance are also factors.
2. You dismiss the legitimacy of any picture of the earth from an altitude at which you might see any curvature, so you really don't know if it is actually "regardless of altitude".

In this first shot, the moon is observably in the distance.
In this shot, the moon is clearly and evidently local due to the increase in size.

Don't be stupid. Those images are different in scale or focal length. Flat earth or not, the size of the moon hardly changes as it moves around the earth. Flat earth theory attributes the constant size to atmospheric refraction.

[BADecker]

If you're in the middle of an ocean, what do you see?

If you're at the summit of Mount Everest, what do you see?

If we were on the moon, what do we see? Must we trust what we see behind the lens of our eyes or should we trust behind another lens from the camera?

Like this:


and this:

Horizon is never at the eye level. It's an optical illusion that suggests it is. Trig proves that the horizon is always the same distance below the level line of sight as the eye is above the earth.

or even this:

Notice that your zoomed in moon is the same size as when it isn't zoomed in. This alone proves that it is so far distant that the little zooming in doesn't make any appreciable difference.

[navneet kaur]

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat, and, it seems, they're serious.

[BADecker]

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat, and, it seems, they're serious.

Yes. It's their religion.     

[ClockworkTrader]

Only this would be the #1 topic in Off-Topic. Just sayin'

That's really cool

[WhereDoWEGOfromHere]

What the hell 

Why is this such a popular topic??

The Earth is not flat :S :S

[notbatman]

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat, and, it seems, they're serious.

The Flat Earth Society is "controlled opposition" and the information they provide is complete garbage.

[exemplaar]

The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of the altitude.

1. "appears" doesn't mean "is".  Scale and distance are also factors.
2. You dismiss the legitimacy of any picture of the earth from an altitude at which you might see any curvature, so you really don't know if it is actually "regardless of altitude".

In this first shot, the moon is observably in the distance.
In this shot, the moon is clearly and evidently local due to the increase in size.

Don't be stupid. Those images are different in scale or focal length. Flat earth or not, the size of the moon hardly changes as it moves around the earth. Flat earth theory attributes the constant size to atmospheric refraction.

Flat earth is not a theory but reality, your points are irrelevant to these facts.