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December 08, 2016, 09:04:06 PM
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Atheists are a wishy-washy group of moronic-like people. Why? People are religious creatures. You can see this by noting all the religions in the world. When atheists attempt to get away from religion, all they do is form a religion of non-religion for themselves. Doing this shows that they are bordering on self-destruction.

God operates this world through freedom for the people. That's why He doesn't force anyone to believe anything. Rather, He hopes they will look at the evidence, and believe according to it.

This is why He doesn't push atheists much at all, as they live in the stupidity of their atheism. A push might cause them to self-destruct all the way. God wants them to be saved.

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How very interesting that you choose to make statements based on something which you know nothing about. As you have stated you are a self proclaimed man of god I do not believe you have the ability to see the reasons why people chose to be an atheist. That is exactly what it is..... a choice. We choose to believe what we see and not believe in fairy tales.

You represent everything about religion I hate. You are self righteous, opinionated and suffer from delusion. You choose to make grand statements about a fairy tale character and expect everyone to believe it. Yet when others choose a different path,  you call them moronic and stupid.

Please remember BADecker that your God called you Stupid. Not some pleb who tries to act holier than thou and cannot see the reality when it slaps him in the face.

Okay.

Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to continue to ovoid logic and reality.

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Thank you!

I am not "avoiding" anything. It is I who believe you are avoiding logic and certainly reality.

But you are avoiding logic, because I can give and have given examples of why my logic makes sense. You don't really have the examples, but only say that you are acting logically.

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An example..... hmmm let me think.....

Is it the poor altar boy who is continuously raped by the priest, only to spend each night asking for forgiveness from your god and wanting to know what atrocious thing he has done to receive such atrocity? Or is it the poor starving children of third world countries who cry each night for food the next day..... only to receive none?

Your answer will be the Millionaire evangelist who receives money from suckers to pay for his tax free livelihood..... all because he prayed to your god.

I suggest you listen to the words of this song for your answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo


All right. So you bring up a few of the many injustices and evils being done around the world. What's the point of your doing so? We can sit around all day long and write lists upon lists of evil things that are being done in this world. Are you trying to say that I do or condone them? What is your logic that you are giving example of? What's your point? I think you are avoiding the subject... how I follow the Word of God.

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You asked me to provide examples of why my logic as an atheist makes sense. I did.... and you change it to how you follow the word of your god. How delusional are you? Not to alarm you but the world does not revolve around you.... nor does it revolve around your religion. Most people choose to grow up and we stop believing in fairy tales. Others choose not to and call themselves servants of god.

Bottom line..... you continue to only see the version of your holy book which meets your needs. You still twist the words to meet your own agenda. I do not need a fantasy book to tell me that i need to be a good person.... and i certainly do not need a threat of "hell" to keep me in line and following a set agenda. I am intelligent enough to make my own choices for myself.

As long as you keep running around the logic and explanations I give, you can possibly extend our conversation for a long time. But you absolutely know that you have no proper way to answer the things that I say.

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Logic...... lets look at logic.

Your bible is so full of contradictions yet you continue to believe. The logic of this is that when you follow it.... you fail. Therefore, you are permanently a loser.

In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

Cool

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December 09, 2016, 01:52:42 AM
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In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

How can you even consider that as evidence and truth? Also, the existence of what god?

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December 09, 2016, 01:53:22 AM
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The logic of any religion is that any means to subjugate the people and to beg them for money for the content. That's the whole interest to people. Moreover religion has always helped the state to oppress people.

That's why I'm thinking of starting a religion, free moneys boyzz

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In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

How can you even consider that as evidence and truth? Also, the existence of what god?

How? It is self explanatory, and you can't contradict it with anything other than the fact that you might say that you have contradicted it.

No god. God. There is only one God. The rest might be gods, but probably only idols.

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December 09, 2016, 10:15:37 AM
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I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.
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December 09, 2016, 10:30:26 AM
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Atheists are a wishy-washy group of moronic-like people. Why? People are religious creatures. You can see this by noting all the religions in the world. When atheists attempt to get away from religion, all they do is form a religion of non-religion for themselves. Doing this shows that they are bordering on self-destruction.

God operates this world through freedom for the people. That's why He doesn't force anyone to believe anything. Rather, He hopes they will look at the evidence, and believe according to it.

This is why He doesn't push atheists much at all, as they live in the stupidity of their atheism. A push might cause them to self-destruct all the way. God wants them to be saved.

Cool

How very interesting that you choose to make statements based on something which you know nothing about. As you have stated you are a self proclaimed man of god I do not believe you have the ability to see the reasons why people chose to be an atheist. That is exactly what it is..... a choice. We choose to believe what we see and not believe in fairy tales.

You represent everything about religion I hate. You are self righteous, opinionated and suffer from delusion. You choose to make grand statements about a fairy tale character and expect everyone to believe it. Yet when others choose a different path,  you call them moronic and stupid.

Please remember BADecker that your God called you Stupid. Not some pleb who tries to act holier than thou and cannot see the reality when it slaps him in the face.

Okay.

Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to continue to ovoid logic and reality.

Cool

Thank you!

I am not "avoiding" anything. It is I who believe you are avoiding logic and certainly reality.

But you are avoiding logic, because I can give and have given examples of why my logic makes sense. You don't really have the examples, but only say that you are acting logically.

Cool

An example..... hmmm let me think.....

Is it the poor altar boy who is continuously raped by the priest, only to spend each night asking for forgiveness from your god and wanting to know what atrocious thing he has done to receive such atrocity? Or is it the poor starving children of third world countries who cry each night for food the next day..... only to receive none?

Your answer will be the Millionaire evangelist who receives money from suckers to pay for his tax free livelihood..... all because he prayed to your god.

I suggest you listen to the words of this song for your answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo


All right. So you bring up a few of the many injustices and evils being done around the world. What's the point of your doing so? We can sit around all day long and write lists upon lists of evil things that are being done in this world. Are you trying to say that I do or condone them? What is your logic that you are giving example of? What's your point? I think you are avoiding the subject... how I follow the Word of God.

Cool

You asked me to provide examples of why my logic as an atheist makes sense. I did.... and you change it to how you follow the word of your god. How delusional are you? Not to alarm you but the world does not revolve around you.... nor does it revolve around your religion. Most people choose to grow up and we stop believing in fairy tales. Others choose not to and call themselves servants of god.

Bottom line..... you continue to only see the version of your holy book which meets your needs. You still twist the words to meet your own agenda. I do not need a fantasy book to tell me that i need to be a good person.... and i certainly do not need a threat of "hell" to keep me in line and following a set agenda. I am intelligent enough to make my own choices for myself.

As long as you keep running around the logic and explanations I give, you can possibly extend our conversation for a long time. But you absolutely know that you have no proper way to answer the things that I say.

Cool

Logic...... lets look at logic.

Your bible is so full of contradictions yet you continue to believe. The logic of this is that when you follow it.... you fail. Therefore, you are permanently a loser.

In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

Cool

I love it how you link passages to yourself. You do this all the time and it never stops to amuse me!

I fear you are starting to become annoyed. It is strange that you make references to Your bible being the word of your god and that all his commands should be followed. Then when I point out the contradictions you try to turn this on me and my life. Personally, I am happy for you to join me in my life or not.... your choice. I am not saying my life is any better or worse than yours.... it is just different. You are the one who tries to "enlighten" the rest of us with your life being so wonderful because you follow your god. This is the basis of your religion.... either with or against and you will do whatever you can to highlight your way of life as being best when all I do is point out the fallacy of it.

Ironic that an Atheist like me has more of a caring nature than a "holier than thou" self proclaimed expert on religion like yourself.

I suggest you try the life of an atheist and embrace the real world we live in.... not the fantasy world created by others to scare the masses into following some basic fairy tale.
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December 09, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
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i think the best argument, honestly, is the one where a fundy (as we call them here) calls out to an 'athiest' (or put slightly better, someone who just goes about their life without feeling the need to organise and criticize others) and asks them what their issue with religion is.

there isn't actually any issue, however the question inevitably turns to, 'how cant you believe in my magical pixie fairy with a beard', 'explain the wonders of the world without a greater being'. this is the obnoxious part.

i honestly think religion, or the concept, was created to prevent certain types of personality/people from going nuts. honest opinion, not trolling here.
easy to grasp the concept, if you look at where we all are; how separate yet together we can all be, wars, millions of miles/distance separating us - and we're just chilling.

some people need to think there is 'more'. up to them.
i gave up my imaginary friends when i was 4 or 5  Roll Eyes

(almost forgot, dont forget the strawman logic!)

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December 09, 2016, 10:46:55 AM
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Religion was created to subdue and scare people incapable of thinking. For atheists to hate them? Atheists, on the contrary regret those not smart people. I hate only Muslims and not for the religion but for misanthropy.
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December 09, 2016, 02:20:29 PM
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I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.

Remind your friends that atheism is a religion. Search the Internet for people and websites who explain why and how.

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December 09, 2016, 02:32:24 PM
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I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.

Remind your friends that atheism is a religion. Search the Internet for people and websites who explain why and how.

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Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.
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Atheists are a wishy-washy group of moronic-like people. Why? People are religious creatures. You can see this by noting all the religions in the world. When atheists attempt to get away from religion, all they do is form a religion of non-religion for themselves. Doing this shows that they are bordering on self-destruction.

God operates this world through freedom for the people. That's why He doesn't force anyone to believe anything. Rather, He hopes they will look at the evidence, and believe according to it.

This is why He doesn't push atheists much at all, as they live in the stupidity of their atheism. A push might cause them to self-destruct all the way. God wants them to be saved.

Cool

How very interesting that you choose to make statements based on something which you know nothing about. As you have stated you are a self proclaimed man of god I do not believe you have the ability to see the reasons why people chose to be an atheist. That is exactly what it is..... a choice. We choose to believe what we see and not believe in fairy tales.

You represent everything about religion I hate. You are self righteous, opinionated and suffer from delusion. You choose to make grand statements about a fairy tale character and expect everyone to believe it. Yet when others choose a different path,  you call them moronic and stupid.

Please remember BADecker that your God called you Stupid. Not some pleb who tries to act holier than thou and cannot see the reality when it slaps him in the face.

Okay.

Certainly you are welcome to your opinions, and welcome to continue to ovoid logic and reality.

Cool

Thank you!

I am not "avoiding" anything. It is I who believe you are avoiding logic and certainly reality.

But you are avoiding logic, because I can give and have given examples of why my logic makes sense. You don't really have the examples, but only say that you are acting logically.

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An example..... hmmm let me think.....

Is it the poor altar boy who is continuously raped by the priest, only to spend each night asking for forgiveness from your god and wanting to know what atrocious thing he has done to receive such atrocity? Or is it the poor starving children of third world countries who cry each night for food the next day..... only to receive none?

Your answer will be the Millionaire evangelist who receives money from suckers to pay for his tax free livelihood..... all because he prayed to your god.

I suggest you listen to the words of this song for your answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo


All right. So you bring up a few of the many injustices and evils being done around the world. What's the point of your doing so? We can sit around all day long and write lists upon lists of evil things that are being done in this world. Are you trying to say that I do or condone them? What is your logic that you are giving example of? What's your point? I think you are avoiding the subject... how I follow the Word of God.

Cool

You asked me to provide examples of why my logic as an atheist makes sense. I did.... and you change it to how you follow the word of your god. How delusional are you? Not to alarm you but the world does not revolve around you.... nor does it revolve around your religion. Most people choose to grow up and we stop believing in fairy tales. Others choose not to and call themselves servants of god.

Bottom line..... you continue to only see the version of your holy book which meets your needs. You still twist the words to meet your own agenda. I do not need a fantasy book to tell me that i need to be a good person.... and i certainly do not need a threat of "hell" to keep me in line and following a set agenda. I am intelligent enough to make my own choices for myself.

As long as you keep running around the logic and explanations I give, you can possibly extend our conversation for a long time. But you absolutely know that you have no proper way to answer the things that I say.

Cool

Logic...... lets look at logic.

Your bible is so full of contradictions yet you continue to believe. The logic of this is that when you follow it.... you fail. Therefore, you are permanently a loser.

In the first place, what are you doing looking in my Bible? If you really want to look in a Bible, get your own. So, how do you know what is in my Bible unless you have looked?

Consider yourself. If a person happened to glimpse your life, he would see your contradictions in life. They are all over the place. First you walk into the kitchen, then you walk out of the kitchen. Then you walk into the living room. Then you walk out of the living room. Then you walk back into the kitchen and get a drink of water. Then you walk out of the kitchen into the bathroom and relieve yourself of some water. Then you walk out of the bathroom. Make up your mind. Quit contradicting yourself all over the place.

Of course, if a person took enough time to see the reasons why you were making apparent contradictions throughout your life, he would see that there were non-contradictory reasons why you did all these things. Same with the Bible. Things might look like contradictions, but if you don't examine them in detail, you are only messing up your own thinking about the Bible.

Since you have such a bad attitude regarding the Bible, start with something you can understand... science and nature and the existence of God. Science and nature show and prove that God exists as shown here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
In addition, you can search the Internet for all kinds of other evidence and proof.

Then once you realize that God exists, you can get out of that stupid, self-contradictory, atheist religion, and really start to live.

Cool

I love it how you link passages to yourself. You do this all the time and it never stops to amuse me!
What does this even mean?



I fear you are starting to become annoyed.
What can I say, but, thanks, for your warm thoughts regarding my well being... in that you fear for me.


It is strange that you make references to Your bible being the word of your god and that all his commands should be followed. Then when I point out the contradictions you try to turn this on me and my life.
It is even stranger that when I explain how the things you call contradictions aren't contradictions, you seem to completely ignore what I say, when all you have to do is explain why you think my explanations are wrong. Why can't you, or won't you, get into the nitty gritty details of stating why you think something I explain is wrong? Methinks that you can't.


Personally, I am happy for you to join me in my life or not.... your choice.
Isn't that what we are doing in the forum here, even if it is a rather simple joining?


I am not saying my life is any better or worse than yours.... it is just different. You are the one who tries to "enlighten" the rest of us with your life being so wonderful because you follow your god.
Why do you even say this? I never said my life is so wonderful. You resort to writing things about me without anything to back them up. Yet, when I back up the things that I say with a readily available preponderance of proof and evidence, you simply run past it as though it didn't exist. You show your weakness this way. You have no proof, and little evidence, yet you want to twist things around, just like a troll.


This is the basis of your religion.... either with or against and you will do whatever you can to highlight your way of life as being best when all I do is point out the fallacy of it.
What does this mean? You can't even write things that make sense.

Since I have never highlighted my life as being best, you couldn't have pointed out any fallacy regarding it. Rather, you are simply trying to avoid the fact that there is nothing that you have that can contradict the proof and evidence that God exists.

Why are you so against the truth? Why would you rather attempt to live your life in ways that won't work? Are you so desirous of death, but such a suicide chicken, that you have to get death in any way that you can? So you do it by turning against the God Who maintains your life?

Look at the joys that exist in your life (even though there are troubles and pains as well). God offers you the joys without the pains... in the next life. Turn to God and live.



Ironic that an Atheist like me has more of a caring nature than a "holier than thou" self proclaimed expert on religion like yourself.
Again, a statement without evidence. And, a statement that is designed to avoid the points, that God exists, and that Bible obedience is accomplished by believing in Jesus.



I suggest you try the life of an atheist and embrace the real world we live in.... not the fantasy world created by others to scare the masses into following some basic fairy tale.

Only people who don't realize that atheism is a religion of non-religion might become atheists. Because people are religious beings, atheism is a religion of self destruction. I understand why you would suggest that someone become an atheist. Misery loves company.

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December 09, 2016, 02:53:10 PM
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Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.

A strong argument can be made that belief in God is more rational then a belief in atheism.

See:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/god-vs-atheism-which-more-rational

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I'm not an Atheist myself. I have friends who are, and they said to me that they think religion is a waste of time, thinks have happened in their life and they question where was god when I needed help the most.

Remind your friends that atheism is a religion. Search the Internet for people and websites who explain why and how.

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Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.

Atheism is a religious denial of religion. Being a RELIGIOUS denial, it becomes a religion, and all the more so when it is thought about and spoken about by the atheist. Atheists who think and speak about atheism are forming dogmas about it in their lives. Atheism IS DEFINITELY a religion.

In all the controversy in websites, between atheism as a religion and atheism not being a religion, those sites that show atheism is a religion, do it by showing the similarities between atheism and other religions. Those who try to explain that atheism is NOT a religion, usually get away from the point, and start condemning the idea that God exists, rather than showing how atheism is not a religion. Atheists that do this are the most religious of all atheists, because they are adding dogmas to their simple religion.

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Well, thanks. God is your God, too. If you would learn that you can (and maybe have) obeyed God through the salvation that Jesus offers, you might come to understand that you don't have to be so stressed out over a little forum topic.

My perfection is in Jesus. God says so. Your perfection is in Jesus except for one little thing. You don't believe and accept it.

Turn and believe, while you still have time, so that you can join us in eternal life with God, in glory and joy.

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Not my God.... no such thing!
Your God, because He holds you alive. The funny thing is, that if you don't acknowledge Him in this life, He will prove Himself to you in the judgment, but by then it will be absolutely too late for you to be saved.



Why do you keep trying to turn everyone into Zombie's? Are you a brain sucking leech?
You mentioned in a different post that you were more caring than I. Here I am, trying to save you for eternity, and all you can do is accuse me of trying to turn people into zombies. You are the zombie. Stop resisting true life.



What makes you think I am stressed? I am far from stressed.
Like standing on the cliff with your eyes closed. One more step and you are gone for good.



I am disappointed in you though.
You are soooo caring that you are disappointed in me? LOL.


You seem to be an intelligent person, however, your failure to recognize the contradictions in your own bible is quite astounding.
As I said in another post. First you go this way, then you go that. You contradict yourself all the time. Of course, when one looks into the details of your life, he can see that most of them aren't contradictions at all.

The details of the Bible show that it doesn't contradict itself at all.


You also fail to follow the commandments of your bible. I think I will take it on as a quest to get you to recognize these failings.
You simply don't accept that believing in Jesus IS following the commands of the Bible.



If there is an eternal life (which I don't believe), it will be in your version of Hell where you will be bringing the Jim Beam, Pizza and Leather Chair. I'll bring the women.


It is my loss that I am talking seriously with you, but you are joking with (and maybe trolling) me. But others may see and learn. So there will be benefit to some, through the joking that you do.

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December 09, 2016, 03:46:10 PM
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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.
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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

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You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.
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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

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You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

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You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

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Not God directs man to write books. Are you familiar with examples of when God inspired an illiterate man write a book? In the books people Express their thoughts. There is a book "the ABC terrorist." It is also God wrote?
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December 09, 2016, 06:31:40 PM
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Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.

A strong argument can be made that belief in God is more rational then a belief in atheism.

See:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/god-vs-atheism-which-more-rational

For one such argument.


@CoinCube  The link you mention gives the following script:

Belief in God, according to atheists, is irrational, illogical, and dumb. Belief that the universe created itself is, they say, intelligent, rational, and based in science. This is simply false. Nothing can create itself. Everything has a cause -- including the universe. That cause, argues Peter Kreeft, professor of philosophy at Boston College, is God, the "unmoved mover." Belief in God, as Kreeft shows, is more rational than belief in nothing. Logic, science, and reason, support God. Atheism, as you'll see, is far more steeped in blind faith than is belief.

When I read the paragraph I became aware that 'God' is referenced as being the "unmoved mover". If 'God' is the "unmoved mover" then I am terribly dispappointed in Him/Her/They or most likely IT. Why? Because I am moved by movers, not un-movers. This 'God' who would supposedly be a "unmoved mover" is a clockwork type of God who only sets things in motion (brilliantly of course) and then leave it to just tick along perfectly (in its flawed state that is - when it comes to homo sapiens). I cannot have fellowship/proper relationship with this 'God' who is the "unmoved mover" How the heck did IT figure this clockwork "creation" out to bring forth ("create") homo sapiens who is ultra personal in their dealings with one another if IT itself is not capable of being 'moved'?

My GOD is the 'BEING MOVED by ALL' - the SUPREMELY MOVED ONE.

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