Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[RoomBot]

Atheism is a religious denial of religion. Being a RELIGIOUS denial, it becomes a religion, and all the more so when it is thought about and spoken about by the atheist. Atheists who think and speak about atheism are forming dogmas about it in their lives. Atheism IS DEFINITELY a religion.

In all the controversy in websites, between atheism as a religion and atheism not being a religion, those sites that show atheism is a religion, do it by showing the similarities between atheism and other religions. Those who try to explain that atheism is NOT a religion, usually get away from the point, and start condemning the idea that God exists, rather than showing how atheism is not a religion. Atheists that do this are the most religious of all atheists, because they are adding dogmas to their simple religion.

Oh I get it now!

I'm a nudist.

I'm a nudist because I don't believe in wearing clothes....so my DENIAL of wearing clothes becomes actually wearing clothes, in your analogy!

Thanks, @BADecker

I feel warmer already.

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Humans create the Gods.

[BADecker]

I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Not God directs man to write books. Are you familiar with examples of when God inspired an illiterate man write a book? In the books people Express their thoughts. There is a book "the ABC terrorist." It is also God wrote?

God doesn't direct every book to be written by His desire. Often He is simply following the requests of the hearts of those who write the books, when He directs the way those books are written.

The Bible is the only book God directed to be written from His own heart. He allowed His faithful writers to use their own words, even though He was the One doing the directing, rather than the free will of the writers.

You are, without realizing it, examining the pain that Jesus suffered on the cross. He, as God, allowed all kinds of evil including evil writing, because that was what people were asking of Him. It hurt Him deeply, even caused His death, to uphold this mankind-corrupted universe even though He was perfectly righteous. He did it to give people the opportunity to be saved from their corruption.

Soon Jesus will return and completely destroy this universe.

[BADecker]

Atheism cannot be a religion. On the contrary it is the denial of all religions. Atheists don't believe in fairytales and require proof for any judgment. While there is no evidence and there is no God.

A strong argument can be made that belief in God is more rational then a belief in atheism.

See:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/god-vs-atheism-which-more-rational

For one such argument.

@CoinCube  The link you mention gives the following script:

Belief in God, according to atheists, is irrational, illogical, and dumb. Belief that the universe created itself is, they say, intelligent, rational, and based in science. This is simply false. Nothing can create itself. Everything has a cause -- including the universe. That cause, argues Peter Kreeft, professor of philosophy at Boston College, is God, the "unmoved mover." Belief in God, as Kreeft shows, is more rational than belief in nothing. Logic, science, and reason, support God. Atheism, as you'll see, is far more steeped in blind faith than is belief.

When I read the paragraph I became aware that 'God' is referenced as being the "unmoved mover". If 'God' is the "unmoved mover" then I am terribly dispappointed in Him/Her/They or most likely IT. Why? Because I am moved by movers, not un-movers. This 'God' who would supposedly be a "unmoved mover" is a clockwork type of God who only sets things in motion (brilliantly of course) and then leave it to just tick along perfectly (in its flawed state that is - when it comes to homo sapiens). I cannot have fellowship/proper relationship with this 'God' who is the "unmoved mover" How the heck did IT figure this clockwork "creation" out to bring forth ("create") homo sapiens who is ultra personal in their dealings with one another if IT itself is not capable of being 'moved'?

My GOD is the 'BEING MOVED by ALL' - the SUPREMELY MOVED ONE.

God isn't Someone Who can be easily understood. He might be moved, but He doesn't change.

[BADecker]

Atheism is a religious denial of religion. Being a RELIGIOUS denial, it becomes a religion, and all the more so when it is thought about and spoken about by the atheist. Atheists who think and speak about atheism are forming dogmas about it in their lives. Atheism IS DEFINITELY a religion.

In all the controversy in websites, between atheism as a religion and atheism not being a religion, those sites that show atheism is a religion, do it by showing the similarities between atheism and other religions. Those who try to explain that atheism is NOT a religion, usually get away from the point, and start condemning the idea that God exists, rather than showing how atheism is not a religion. Atheists that do this are the most religious of all atheists, because they are adding dogmas to their simple religion.

Oh I get it now!

I'm a nudist.

I'm a nudist because I don't believe in wearing clothes....so my DENIAL of wearing clothes becomes actually wearing clothes, in your analogy!

Thanks, @BADecker

I feel warmer already.

Virtually all nudists wear clothing now and again. That doesn't stop them from being nudists, just as it doesn't stop religious people from claiming to not be religious.

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@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

This highlights that the authors of your Bible say it was God who wrote it through them..... So your God's words are there for you to see. Nothing written about Cause and effect. Once again you have twisted your thoughts to fit an agenda and make it appear as proof.

Please try again.

[BADecker]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

[BADecker]

I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

This highlights that the authors of your Bible say it was God who wrote it through them..... So your God's words are there for you to see. Nothing written about Cause and effect. Once again you have twisted your thoughts to fit an agenda and make it appear as proof.

Please try again.

Actually, the passages that you listed show lots of cause and effect. Just because the passage words don't literally state the words "cause and effect," doesn't mean the cause and effect isn't expressed.

For example. Just because nowhere in the passages are the words "pen" or "pencil" or "ink" or "paper" or "sheep skin" literally mentioned, doesn't mean that the Scripture wasn't written down on paper or parchment.

Sounds like you are the one doing the twisting.

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@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

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I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

This highlights that the authors of your Bible say it was God who wrote it through them..... So your God's words are there for you to see. Nothing written about Cause and effect. Once again you have twisted your thoughts to fit an agenda and make it appear as proof.

Please try again.

Actually, the passages that you listed show lots of cause and effect. Just because the passage words don't literally state the words "cause and effect," doesn't mean the cause and effect isn't expressed.

For example. Just because nowhere in the passages are the words "pen" or "pencil" or "ink" or "paper" or "sheep skin" literally mentioned, doesn't mean that the Scripture wasn't written down on paper or parchment.

Sounds like you are the one doing the twisting.

Are you your own God?

Why do you need to "add words" into your God's sentences? Is your God not good enough?

That is where you are doing the twisting.

I am only reading the exact words of your God. Are you?

[btvlGainer]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

[BADecker]

I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

This highlights that the authors of your Bible say it was God who wrote it through them..... So your God's words are there for you to see. Nothing written about Cause and effect. Once again you have twisted your thoughts to fit an agenda and make it appear as proof.

Please try again.

Actually, the passages that you listed show lots of cause and effect. Just because the passage words don't literally state the words "cause and effect," doesn't mean the cause and effect isn't expressed.

For example. Just because nowhere in the passages are the words "pen" or "pencil" or "ink" or "paper" or "sheep skin" literally mentioned, doesn't mean that the Scripture wasn't written down on paper or parchment.

Sounds like you are the one doing the twisting.

Are you your own God?

Why do you need to "add words" into your God's sentences? Is your God not good enough?

That is where you are doing the twisting.

I am only reading the exact words of your God. Are you?

Why are you accusing me of things that I am not doing. Have I not referenced the Bible in the things I have said above? You are only proving yourself to be a liar and a cheat and a troll when you accuse me falsely as you are doing.

[BADecker]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

Those who depend on common sense are forming it into a religion for themselves. Many times common sense is wrong. Since we are religious beings, let's find the best religion. Why? Because we will automatically have a religion in life. All people do. It's the way we are.

[Tyrantt]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

Those who depend on common sense are forming it into a religion for themselves. Many times common sense is wrong. Since we are religious beings, let's find the best religion. Why? Because we will automatically have a religion in life. All people do. It's the way we are.

It's the way that people were back in time before the most common occurances have been explained, like thunder, earthquakes,etc.. that seemed like he work of gods. Today we know what the hell is happening and why, and not the religion has become obsolete.

[HateEU]

that is really good question and answer is that they hate religions because they think that pupils which created religions are some weird pupils which want only control us and if there is no religion many priest will not have job and it will be chaos

[BADecker]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

Those who depend on common sense are forming it into a religion for themselves. Many times common sense is wrong. Since we are religious beings, let's find the best religion. Why? Because we will automatically have a religion in life. All people do. It's the way we are.

It's the way that people were back in time before the most common occurances have been explained, like thunder, earthquakes,etc.. that seemed like he work of gods. Today we know what the hell is happening and why, and not the religion has become obsolete.

LOL! So you think you or we know what is happening, eh? There was a report that just came out that the average age of Americans is down. In addition, there are still 3 or 4 nations of people who live longer than Americans on average. If we knew so much, we would have figured out how to live for a thousand years in good health.

Go ahead. Use your common sense to console yourself that we know so much. But sometime look at the reality that we know essentially nothing.

Consider. Modern science has been telling us that 10 thousand years ago people were humble hunter gatherers. Now we are digging up Gobekli Tepe that is showing us that 10,000 years ago people were possibly smarter than we are in some ways. And there are dozens of places around the world that would show the same, if they were examined archaeologically. We still don't know how they built the pyramids.

Laugh it up, fuzz ball, as society collapses around us because we are so smart with common sense.

[Tyrantt]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

Those who depend on common sense are forming it into a religion for themselves. Many times common sense is wrong. Since we are religious beings, let's find the best religion. Why? Because we will automatically have a religion in life. All people do. It's the way we are.

It's the way that people were back in time before the most common occurances have been explained, like thunder, earthquakes,etc.. that seemed like he work of gods. Today we know what the hell is happening and why, and not the religion has become obsolete.

LOL! So you think you or we know what is happening, eh? There was a report that just came out that the average age of Americans is down. In addition, there are still 3 or 4 nations of people who live longer than Americans on average. If we knew so much, we would have figured out how to live for a thousand years in good health.

Go ahead. Use your common sense to console yourself that we know so much. But sometime look at the reality that we know essentially nothing.

Consider. Modern science has been telling us that 10 thousand years ago people were humble hunter gatherers. Now we are digging up Gobekli Tepe that is showing us that 10,000 years ago people were possibly smarter than we are in some ways. And there are dozens of places around the world that would show the same, if they were examined archaeologically. We still don't know how they built the pyramids.

Laugh it up, fuzz ball, as society collapses around us because we are so smart with common sense.

Because most americans eat shit for meals, literally. I don't know if you're that stupid or what. What makes you think that that scenario is even possible for a person to live up to 1k years? I mean it can, but not with the regular biological human body. And as for the american life span, your nation is a fast food nation, no wonder you can't outlive a butterfly.

I am, and we as a humanity know siht, but people are still trying to learn more about this whole world and not  satisfy with the "yeap, god did it, leave it at that", imagine how world would end up if that was the thinking of all great minds that invented or questioned the church.

Well there you have it, constant research and findings. Today might be one, tomorrow with the new discovery something else that has pointed to the other stuff. "Smarter in some ways" well duh, do you need the knowledge of hunting and herb gathering in the modern world? no, you just take your american fat ass to the market and buy your shit. They were smarter in those other ways because they've depended on it. Okay, that's true we have pyramids built all over the world, but tell me, why weren't pyramids build as spheres? or maybe cubes? Because making that shape would be impossible to make with that technology they've had? Why don't ants make theyr anthills as a cube or sphere too? Making a pyramid is the most simple of all shapes, basically just a pile of rocks in some sense, neatly stacked. If the Giza pyramids were build in a day, than that would have been an act of something greater. Sometimes things are just as they look.

[BADecker]

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

All religious tenets are contrary to common sense. They were invented in the ancient world, when people were uneducated. They could not logically refute these tenets, and those who doubted were killed.

Those who depend on common sense are forming it into a religion for themselves. Many times common sense is wrong. Since we are religious beings, let's find the best religion. Why? Because we will automatically have a religion in life. All people do. It's the way we are.

It's the way that people were back in time before the most common occurances have been explained, like thunder, earthquakes,etc.. that seemed like he work of gods. Today we know what the hell is happening and why, and not the religion has become obsolete.

LOL! So you think you or we know what is happening, eh? There was a report that just came out that the average age of Americans is down. In addition, there are still 3 or 4 nations of people who live longer than Americans on average. If we knew so much, we would have figured out how to live for a thousand years in good health.

Go ahead. Use your common sense to console yourself that we know so much. But sometime look at the reality that we know essentially nothing.

Consider. Modern science has been telling us that 10 thousand years ago people were humble hunter gatherers. Now we are digging up Gobekli Tepe that is showing us that 10,000 years ago people were possibly smarter than we are in some ways. And there are dozens of places around the world that would show the same, if they were examined archaeologically. We still don't know how they built the pyramids.

Laugh it up, fuzz ball, as society collapses around us because we are so smart with common sense.

Because most americans eat shit for meals, literally. I don't know if you're that stupid or what. What makes you think that that scenario is even possible for a person to live up to 1k years? I mean it can, but not with the regular biological human body. And as for the american life span, your nation is a fast food nation, no wonder you can't outlive a butterfly.

I am, and we as a humanity know siht, but people are still trying to learn more about this whole world and not  satisfy with the "yeap, god did it, leave it at that", imagine how world would end up if that was the thinking of all great minds that invented or questioned the church.

Well there you have it, constant research and findings. Today might be one, tomorrow with the new discovery something else that has pointed to the other stuff. "Smarter in some ways" well duh, do you need the knowledge of hunting and herb gathering in the modern world? no, you just take your american fat ass to the market and buy your shit. They were smarter in those other ways because they've depended on it. Okay, that's true we have pyramids built all over the world, but tell me, why weren't pyramids build as spheres? or maybe cubes? Because making that shape would be impossible to make with that technology they've had? Why don't ants make theyr anthills as a cube or sphere too? Making a pyramid is the most simple of all shapes, basically just a pile of rocks in some sense, neatly stacked. If the Giza pyramids were build in a day, than that would have been an act of something greater. Sometimes things are just as they look.

So you think that you are so smart that you can eat well enough to keep yourself alive for a thousand years or more? Boy are you deluded.

With the economy of the world the way it i s, we don't have the technology today to build a pile of rocks like the Great Pyramid. We might have the pure technology, but we don't have the economy that would allow the technology to work. Those ancient pyramid builders were way ahead of us. They actually did it. we could only dream.

Keep on with your hopes and dreams that we will find something tomorrow that will make everything work better. Don't you see that the world is on the brink of war, and that the economy is on the brink of collapse? One little flutter of nature, and all our dreams would collapse farther than Gobekli Tepe.

[dippididodaday]

...So you think that you are so smart that you can eat well enough to keep yourself alive for a thousand years or more? Boy are you deluded.

With the economy of the world the way it i s, we don't have the technology today to build a pile of rocks like the Great Pyramid. We might have the pure technology, but we don't have the economy that would allow the technology to work. Those ancient pyramid builders were way ahead of us. They actually did it. we could only dream.

Keep on with your hopes and dreams that we will find something tomorrow that will make everything work better. Don't you see that the world is on the brink of war, and that the economy is on the brink of collapse? One little flutter of nature, and all our dreams would collapse farther than Gobekli Tepe.

@BADecker  Those ancient civilizations longed to have some elevation to broaden their view, so they went ahead and erected those magnificent pyramids with manpower. Today, we simply use the astounding technology at our disposal to erect a Burj Khalifa at 828 meters high, without the amount of manpower that would be needed if only manpower (and no modern technology) were available. Believe me, erecting a Burj Khalifa for instance, with only manpower (even with much more than enough being available), would have taken the very bravest of souls and even then would probably have failed.

Things already work much better today, but I and fellow like minded people will keep on striving to make things work better, and maybe our world does need a little fluttering done by our magnificent mother nature so all our dreams are aligned with what we all are meant to be.