[ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage

[akaman]

Are miners leaving?

Interval between blocks a few days ago was 10-15 min.

Here are timestamps of last 5 blocks
18131  Sep 22, 2015 at 3:35pm (UTC)
18132  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:35pm (UTC)
18133  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:10pm (UTC)
18134  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:28pm (UTC)
18135  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:59pm (UTC)

Was block 18133 mined before 18134 and 18132? Is that even possible?

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.

Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.

What's going on?

[go6ooo1212]

Are miners leaving?

Interval between blocks a few days ago was 10-15 min.

Here are timestamps of last 5 blocks
18131  Sep 22, 2015 at 3:35pm (UTC)
18132  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:35pm (UTC)
18133  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:10pm (UTC)
18134  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:28pm (UTC)
18135  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:59pm (UTC)

Was block 18133 mined before 18134 and 18132? Is that even possible?

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.

Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.

What's going on?

The pleasure of mining...

[Schleicher]

Are miners leaving?

Interval between blocks a few days ago was 10-15 min.

Here are timestamps of last 5 blocks
18131  Sep 22, 2015 at 3:35pm (UTC)
18132  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:35pm (UTC)
18133  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:10pm (UTC)
18134  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:28pm (UTC)
18135  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:59pm (UTC)

Was block 18133 mined before 18134 and 18132? Is that even possible?

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.
Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.
What's going on?

the difficulty is high

[akaman]

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.
Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.
What's going on?

the difficulty is high

Combined with a decreasing hash rate:

Hash rate (last 1000 blocks)   343.893958 GH/s
Hash rate (last 100 blocks)   183.919383 GH/s
Hash rate (last 25 blocks)   129.552348 GH/s

Will the difficulty be automatically reduced to take this into account? After all, we still want 10 min blocks. I had to wait ~3 hours for my funds to arrive into my wallet.

[MinermanNC]

Are miners leaving?

Interval between blocks a few days ago was 10-15 min.

Here are timestamps of last 5 blocks
18131  Sep 22, 2015 at 3:35pm (UTC)
18132  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:35pm (UTC)
18133  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:10pm (UTC)
18134  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:28pm (UTC)
18135  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:59pm (UTC)

Was block 18133 mined before 18134 and 18132? Is that even possible?

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.

Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.

What's going on?

Very interesting observation  like you said is it even possible..... strange to see that lol

[MinermanNC]

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.
Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.
What's going on?

the difficulty is high

Combined with a decreasing hash rate:

Hash rate (last 1000 blocks)   343.893958 GH/s
Hash rate (last 100 blocks)   183.919383 GH/s
Hash rate (last 25 blocks)   129.552348 GH/s

Will the difficulty be automatically reduced to take this into account? After all, we still want 10 min blocks. I had to wait ~3 hours for my funds to arrive into my wallet.

Yes it will adjust. This has happened before. Problem is, its cheaper for me and easier to buy the same amount coins as I might would get mining vs. electricity cost. Now if Sia goes back to 25-30 than it will start all over again.. everyone will jump back in mining while price is higher and difficulty low.  

I think this is just part of the ups and downs between version releases. Sooner or later it will have to level out again and stay that way.

[fundomatic]

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.
Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.
What's going on?

the difficulty is high

Combined with a decreasing hash rate:

Hash rate (last 1000 blocks)   343.893958 GH/s
Hash rate (last 100 blocks)   183.919383 GH/s
Hash rate (last 25 blocks)   129.552348 GH/s

Will the difficulty be automatically reduced to take this into account? After all, we still want 10 min blocks. I had to wait ~3 hours for my funds to arrive into my wallet.

I recall the number of blocks mined before the difficulty adjustment is 500. So, have to wait less than 500 hours. Check out http://explore.siacoin.com/ to see miners come and go.

[mishax1]

So, any news about a pool ?

[MinermanNC]

So, any news about a pool ?

I suppose with these swings in hash rate and the effect it has on transaction times etc. perhaps the emphasis on getting a pool may need to be brought to the front burner. I know other priority's have moved a pool back, and understandably so, but it may be more relevant now that we get a pool soon for the network.  

[akaman]

Will the difficulty be automatically reduced <snip>

I recall the number of blocks mined before the difficulty adjustment is 500. So, have to wait less than 500 hours. Check out http://explore.siacoin.com/ to see miners come and go.

6 blocks have been mined in the last 24 hours. So the wait is more like 3 months at this rate... Not taking into account the fact that hashrate is still dropping.

[akaman]

So, any news about a pool ?

I suppose with these swings in hash rate and the effect it has on transaction times etc. perhaps the emphasis on getting a pool may need to be brought to the front burner. I know other priority's have moved a pool back, and understandably so, but it may be more relevant now that we get a pool soon for the network.  

+1

I think this is crucial for adoption. The network as a whole needs to stabilize before nitpicking on app details.

[ocminer]

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.

Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

Thanks

[akaman]

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.
Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

Thanks for your interest!
I do not mine myself, but here are some resources to get you started:

The Sia developers have released a CPU miner, which runs "in-wallet".

There is also a GPU miner, here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner

Binaries here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases

They say the GPU miner has some bugs, and the miner can only mine on a single GPU at a time. You can run multiple miner instances for more processors.

Chat with miners on Slack:
https://siatalk.slack.com/messages/mining/details/

[ocminer]

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.
Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

Thanks for your interest!
I do not mine myself, but here are some resources to get you started:

The Sia developers have released a CPU miner, which runs "in-wallet".

There is also a GPU miner, here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner

Binaries here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases

They say the GPU miner has some bugs, and the miner can only mine on a single GPU at a time. You can run multiple miner instances for more processors.

Chat with miners on Slack:
https://siatalk.slack.com/messages/mining/details/

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a look at those links. What I need for a pool is some sort of Wallet -> Client or Client -> Wallet communication, because i'll be acting like a "proxy" with the pool.. So it looks like Client -> Pool -> Wallet ...

[akaman]

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.
Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

I do not mine myself, but here are some resources to get you started:

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a look at those links. What I need for a pool is some sort of Wallet -> Client or Client -> Wallet communication, because i'll be acting like a "proxy" with the pool.. So it looks like Client -> Pool -> Wallet ...

You'll better inquire with the developers for the details you need. You can reach them at #siatalk on freenode or through Slack: https://siatalk.slack.com/messages/dev/, or wait for their reply here...

[Taek]

Are miners leaving?

Interval between blocks a few days ago was 10-15 min.

Here are timestamps of last 5 blocks
18131  Sep 22, 2015 at 3:35pm (UTC)
18132  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:35pm (UTC)
18133  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:10pm (UTC)
18134  Sep 22, 2015 at 4:28pm (UTC)
18135  Sep 22, 2015 at 5:59pm (UTC)

Was block 18133 mined before 18134 and 18132? Is that even possible?

Intervals between blocks (ignoring 18134) is now > 1 hour.

Last block was mined > 2 1/2 hours ago.

What's going on?

When the difficulty spikes all of the miners flee. Then you're stuck with an extra high difficulty as well as no miners, so the block time goes up 5-10x. This problem should fade as the coin grows in rank.

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.
Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

Thanks for your interest!
I do not mine myself, but here are some resources to get you started:

The Sia developers have released a CPU miner, which runs "in-wallet".

There is also a GPU miner, here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner

Binaries here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases

They say the GPU miner has some bugs, and the miner can only mine on a single GPU at a time. You can run multiple miner instances for more processors.

Chat with miners on Slack:
https://siatalk.slack.com/messages/mining/details/

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a look at those links. What I need for a pool is some sort of Wallet -> Client or Client -> Wallet communication, because i'll be acting like a "proxy" with the pool.. So it looks like Client -> Pool -> Wallet ...

Hi, dev here. We've got an HTTP API that you can use to talk with the daemon while mining. It will give you block headers, and then you can use it to submit solved block headers. The block headers will already have all the txns and whatnot. Additionally, each time you request a block header you will get a unique txn merkle-root, so you don't need to worry about stretching the nonce yourself. The nonce in a header is 64bits, if you run out just request a new header.

https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/blob/master/doc/API.md

edit: looks like the documentation is out of date for the miner. Code is here: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/blob/master/api/api.go

the api calls you want are /miner/headerforwork and /miner/submitheader. The start & stop commands are used for an internal CPU miner which is for testing only. /blockforwork and /submitblock are deprecated, only kept to preserve compatibility with older miners.

[MinermanNC]

ocminer is the man for the job! You have my vote!

Its time to work on a pool I do believe 

Thx Taek and ocminer   

[firedrop]

Hi Taek,

I understand that Siacoin is on beta version where your team are working hard these days to get it into production.

I just would like to ask any approx date, we will see sia officially released. I don't mean a specific date. I rough estimate (this year, first half or second half of next year, etc)

[Moebius327]

Great news to have ocminer on board! Keep up the good work guys!

[ol92]

I was contacted to set up a pool for Sia.
Since Sia is a bit different than other coins, can someone briefly introduce me into the mining mechanism ? are you mining with clients to a main wallet via RPC or are you all just doing "in-wallet-mining" ?

Thanks for your interest!
I do not mine myself, but here are some resources to get you started:

The Sia developers have released a CPU miner, which runs "in-wallet".

There is also a GPU miner, here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner

Binaries here:
https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases

They say the GPU miner has some bugs, and the miner can only mine on a single GPU at a time. You can run multiple miner instances for more processors.

Chat with miners on Slack:
https://siatalk.slack.com/messages/mining/details/

Thanks for the reply, i'll have a look at those links. What I need for a pool is some sort of Wallet -> Client or Client -> Wallet communication, because i'll be acting like a "proxy" with the pool.. So it looks like Client -> Pool -> Wallet ...

I think KlausT who works on the cuda miner (which I am using) has done some work on the 2.0 version about this : https://github.com/KlausT/Sia-CUDA-Miner/releases