Martin Armstrong Discussion

[nstrdms]

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/energy/private-blog-crude-oil-collapse/

Oh come on... Private blog...
Someone please tell me he wrote "right on schedule"!  
Tell me Socrates had -$40 target...

Martin Armstrong runs Socrates and his charts on a DOSBox emulator. I would not be surprised if Socrates had a Y2K moment and crashed when dealing with negative numbers.

I am not joking. And if you have ANY doubts, take a look at the video on this blog post. It's a recording of DOS BOX https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/the-markets-in-turmoil-a-false-move-preparing-for-something-else/

You should archive those videos before he takes it down.

https://www.dosbox.com/

He is clueless and he preys on clueless people. Hopefully not much longer. His Global Artificial Intelligence computer is a Hoax. Some people actually believe in this myth that this DOS thing performs better than the Socrates service because they went through the cherry-picked hindsight success stories in the private blog which are "better" than what they can buy. It all makes sense, doesn't it?

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Edit. Here's more proof.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/armstrongeconomics-wp/2013/06/Crude-Array-1996.mp4

mirror: https://web.archive.org/web/20170514042918/http://s3.amazonaws.com/armstrongeconomics-wp/2013/06/Crude-Array-1996.mp4

and here's his forecast for 2020. NO PANIC CYCLE FOR CRUDE OIL. UH OH!!!!

https://imgur.com/S1OpxMO

[Traxo]

We have only 180 copies here in Florida which can be mailed out immediately this week. The rest (1600 left) are in Pennsylvania which we intend to deliver to Amazon. It will probably take them a few more weeks to get them posted. But for now, we have 180 left here in Florida for our readers only.

Please go to eBay to complete that transaction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324141916183

You guys see what I see under "Similar sponsored items" and "People who viewed this item also viewed", right?

The posting on eBay sold out in 15 minutes. This book is just unbelievable how it sells out all the time so fast.

Yeah. Really shocking that it's "sold out" when he only put few books up there, and most likely bought some of them himself.  


Anyway, where are the relevant interviews which announced?  

Posted Jan 3, 2020 by Martin Armstrong
We have received a number of requests for press interviews since this book seems to be the fastest-selling book ever on Amazon since it sold out in less than three hours.
We have staff in Germany, the Middle East, North America, and Asia to coordinate interviews and copies of the book for the press as well. Please send any requests for interviews worldwide[...].

Did I miss those interviews? Or the "number" he mentioned therein was "1"?

[AnonymousCoder]

I was foolish enough to buy one of Armstrong's gold reports four years back and was a subscriber to Socrates for a few months.

The Gold report was a complete waste. It was 90 percent about history. His benchmarks were meaningless and incorrect, and no matter what happened, Armstrong could point to some random vague sentence and claim something.

Socrates was just as bad (only cheaper). The arrays were confusing as hell, usually never correct, and the directional changes never happened. In the summaries, there were odd spelling mistakes. Socrates is allegedly a computer that is never wrong, so how could it misspell simple words?

Armstrong probably duped me out of $900 over 3 years. He should be in jail for being the biggest fraud in history.

Also, still waiting for the collapse of the Euro he has been calling to happen for 4 years.

You'd think Armstrong would have seen a 35 percent market decline coming from late February to late March. He didn't.
On his own blog, one of his fake emails claimed he nailed the top of the market in January (which he obviously didn't as it peaked Feb. 19 or 20).

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

[Traxo]

https://youtu.be/7wJ_BTOLxxo?t=324  
[Jan 24, 2020]  

Interviewer:  are you suggesting that the markets gonna go lower here over the next month, two months, three months, but you want to buy that dip?
Marty:  yes I mean it's I mean the market would have to go below 19,000 in order to actually say you've got a bear market so it's... that's pretty far away we don't expect an actual change in long-term trend.


Here we have an example of extinct Socrates subscriber specimen:  

great post on private blog today by martin. just follow his general advice and your laughing. gonna be a great chance to buy the dow which he says is going a lot higher

03/03/2020 DOW price: 25,917.41

Famous last words:  

i have that report lol do you haha. watch and learn buddy here comes the dow enjoy losing money i know exactly what to do

03/19/2020 DOW price: 20,087.19
03/23/2020 DOW price: 18,591.93

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[mirny]

What's this all about?

[AnonymousCoder]

What's this all about?

RTFM armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

[trulycoined]

MA is such a frustrating charlatan.

On the one hand, his economic theory ("ECM") is interesting, but ultimately, like all of them, flawed. His grasp of socioeconomics and human behaviour is commendable and he would make a good uni professor as someone who - in his own words - is evidently a B grade student.

On the other hand, his Socrates machine is quite clearly bogus, used as his pipe for his snake oil sales pied piper shtick that defrauds thousands of retail investors out of money. With that, the blog is also used to hoodwink retail idiots out of money by claiming he called future events AFTER they happened, creating a cult that worships their great sage like some prophetic Sun God, it drops their defences and makes them far easier to extort money for reports, WEC's and subs.


Now let's take a look at his most recent blog post about eBay and Manipulating The World Economy selling out in 15 minutes.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/manipulating-the-world-economy-on-ebay/

I know eBay well having sold hundreds of items over the past 15 years. It is NOT easy to create bogus accounts, and requires a unique mobile number, a VPN and even then, eBay will block bidding or delete your account where their algos can detect dodgy behaviour gaming their system. It is possible though and not fullproof.

So many of those 180 purchases are legit unless he has paid a lot of people with eBay accounts to all buy the book, creating hype, but I don't think that is the case as it seems a bit far fetched.

But then I noticed something curious. The book was last available on 24 March 2020 on eBay from the same seller account. While MA uses private listings, you can still match user IDs from the first and last letters of the hidden ID. The chances of getting random matches is likely to be low based on how varied user IDs are on the platform. Private listings are ideal for sellers who may be shill bidding or up to something nefarious, so I wouldn't rule out something underhand going on. Bragging about a sold out book is typical snake oil salesman tactic to then up sell a far more expensive product (report or WEC) - human psychology again.

And it looks like the following buyers purchased MA's book again, on the 20 April AND managed it within the small 15 minute time window they had before the book sold out:

1***1
c***a
e***c
e***t
f***e
h***a
i***r
i***s
l***e
t***t


Ask yourself if this sounds feasible, where so many (10) of the same buyers of the book from 24 March would all be around on 20 April, for those brief 15 minutes, to buy the book again?

Those probably are friends and family helping things along.


And if you want to find out more about becoming a best selling author on Amazon, all in the name of selling "training" content, which is what MA does sell, read this:
https://observer.com/2016/02/behind-the-scam-what-does-it-takes-to-be-a-bestselling-author-3-and-5-minutes/

[trulycoined]

The other hilarious thing is MA claiming his machine predicted COVID-19 and the ensuing economic carnage it has caused. Yet again, that same (cycle?) playbook is rolled out where MA claims his machine predicted the event - but only AFTER it happened. The very same thing happened with the REPO crisis in September, which alas saw an expensive "report" available to buy. The same thing with COVID-19, only this time a virtual webinar is being hosted, because the virus has brutally cancelled MA's only pay cheque this year.


Having attended his 2018 WEC in Orlando, I can you tell you this:

The main prediction from 2020-2024 was for a COMMODITY BOOM, where CA and AU would be the big winners over other major Western economies. Based on a massive decline in consumer and therefore business demand in the coming years, both because of unemployment/bankruptcy and simply permanently changed behaviours, that now seems unlikely. Oil has been declining since 2014 and it looks unlikely that trend will reverse, not least with renewables becoming more mainstream.

At the 2018 Orlando WEC, not once did MA mention:

• 2020 would see an economic crash that would be as historic as 1929
• Oil futures would turn negative for the first time in history
• Major economies would see the highest increase in unemployed in history
• That this would all be caused by an overreaction to an unknown virus

Yet another massive miss for MA and his ECM/Socrates.

What further evidence do people need to see this guy is a complete charlatan? He plays with the known flaws of human psychology to line his pockets, and does it in a very underhand way, where much of his socioeconomic commentary is logical and interesting, which builds trust, then he uses clever underhand tactics to make out his Socrates/ECM are some gift from God, so creating a cult-like persona that has more blind followers than wide-eyed detractors.

[AnonymousCoder]

The End
Is Near

This needs to be repeated. It just proves that absolutely EVERYTHING this guy does is fraud which trulycoined has proven once again.

My respect is due for posting this here. Big Thanks!

The book hoax was just one of the very few things that were open for debate - we all knew it was fake but not 100% provable.

The other thing still is the Forecaster movie infomercial. Which is a real shame!

Shame, shame, shame on Marcus Vetter!

Back to the book - quite simply speaking, a book does not sell out like this normally, time-wise. We need to add more substance to this and complain at Amazon. I am NOT saying that I am going to do it - I am intrigued and would love to do it, but please people, I am asking you to EXCEED what I have been doing and drive the final nails in the coffin of this evil business. Please make a bullet-proof case out of this so it can be added to armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com.

Quite consistent with this is that he does not have a significant number of followers any more. Just click here to get to his public sanitized / censored blog:

Armstrong Economics.

116 members, 0 online at this point in time.

It looks like he has this big pile of books that he does not know how to get rid of so he basically makes lemonade from lemons.
...
And it looks like the following buyers purchased MA's book again, on the 20 April AND managed it within the small 15 minute time window they had before the book sold out:

1***1
c***a
e***c
e***t
f***e
h***a
i***r
i***s
l***e
t***t


Ask yourself if this sounds feasible, where so many (10) of the same buyers of the book from 24 March would all be around on 20 April, for those brief 15 minutes, to buy the book again?

Those probably are friends and family helping things along.


And if you want to find out more about becoming a best selling author on Amazon, all in the name of selling "training" content, which is what MA does sell, read this:
https://observer.com/2016/02/behind-the-scam-what-does-it-takes-to-be-a-bestselling-author-3-and-5-minutes/

And now we also know his other preference s which really proves that the buyer is effectively a single person (sorry I am a bit slow today connecting the dots)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324141916183

You guys see what I see under "Similar sponsored items" and "People who viewed this item also viewed", right?

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov


And by the way, Martin Armstrong, I am talking to you personally, you are no match for me. You get what you deserve, after calling the product of hard working people fraud, such as "fake AI" and your disrespect of people with actual qualifications such as me, while you are defrauding the little guy. You will get what you deserve.

Amen.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

[AnonymousCoder]

The End
Is Near
Part II

"Mr.President, Open The Economy Now" - Martin Armstrong Warns "There's Another Agenda Going On" is one of the last of Martin Armstrong's campaigns, hopefully. Read the comments how things have changed. His troll army is reduced in size quite dramatically.


Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

[s29]

We have only 180 copies here in Florida which can be mailed out immediately this week. The rest (1600 left) are in Pennsylvania which we intend to deliver to Amazon. It will probably take them a few more weeks to get them posted. But for now, we have 180 left here in Florida for our readers only.

Please go to eBay to complete that transaction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324141916183

You guys see what I see under "Similar sponsored items" and "People who viewed this item also viewed", right?

Didn't Armstrong had a Japanese girlfriend for a while? Guess who's buying the books up...

[s29]

The other hilarious thing is MA claiming his machine predicted COVID-19 and the ensuing economic carnage it has caused. Yet again, that same (cycle?) playbook is rolled out where MA claims his machine predicted the event - but only AFTER it happened. The very same thing happened with the REPO crisis in September, which alas saw an expensive "report" available to buy. The same thing with COVID-19, only this time a virtual webinar is being hosted, because the virus has brutally cancelled MA's only pay cheque this year.


Having attended his 2018 WEC in Orlando, I can you tell you this:

The main prediction from 2020-2024 was for a COMMODITY BOOM, where CA and AU would be the big winners over other major Western economies. Based on a massive decline in consumer and therefore business demand in the coming years, both because of unemployment/bankruptcy and simply permanently changed behaviours, that now seems unlikely. Oil has been declining since 2014 and it looks unlikely that trend will reverse, not least with renewables becoming more mainstream.

At the 2018 Orlando WEC, not once did MA mention:

• 2020 would see an economic crash that would be as historic as 1929
• Oil futures would turn negative for the first time in history
• Major economies would see the highest increase in unemployed in history
• That this would all be caused by an overreaction to an unknown virus

Yet another massive miss for MA and his ECM/Socrates.

What further evidence do people need to see this guy is a complete charlatan? He plays with the known flaws of human psychology to line his pockets, and does it in a very underhand way, where much of his socioeconomic commentary is logical and interesting, which builds trust, then he uses clever underhand tactics to make out his Socrates/ECM are some gift from God, so creating a cult-like persona that has more blind followers than wide-eyed detractors.

Exactly, and if Armstrong is such a great forecaster why would he even spent so much time organising his World Economic Forums for 2020, while he could have known that they would be cancelled because of the Coronavirus LOL!

[s29]

https://youtu.be/7wJ_BTOLxxo?t=324  
[Jan 24, 2020]  

Interviewer:  are you suggesting that the markets gonna go lower here over the next month, two months, three months, but you want to buy that dip?
Marty:  yes I mean it's I mean the market would have to go below 19,000 in order to actually say you've got a bear market so it's... that's pretty far away we don't expect an actual change in long-term trend.


Here we have an example of extinct Socrates subscriber specimen:  

great post on private blog today by martin. just follow his general advice and your laughing. gonna be a great chance to buy the dow which he says is going a lot higher

03/03/2020 DOW price: 25,917.41

Famous last words:  

i have that report lol do you haha. watch and learn buddy here comes the dow enjoy losing money i know exactly what to do

03/19/2020 DOW price: 20,087.19
03/23/2020 DOW price: 18,591.93

- - -

- - -  

This happens all the time with Armstrong: certain price levels get hit, and his models turn bearish, exactly at extreme pivot points. Armstrong is horrible with turning point as usual.

[AnonymousCoder]

....
...
But then I noticed something curious. The book was last available on 24 March 2020 on eBay from the same seller account. While MA uses private listings, you can still match user IDs from the first and last letters of the hidden ID. The chances of getting random matches is likely to be low based on how varied user IDs are on the platform. Private listings are ideal for sellers who may be shill bidding or up to something nefarious, so I wouldn't rule out something underhand going on. Bragging about a sold out book is typical snake oil salesman tactic to then up sell a far more expensive product (report or WEC) - human psychology again.

And it looks like the following buyers purchased MA's book again, on the 20 April AND managed it within the small 15 minute time window they had before the book sold out:

1***1
c***a
e***c
e***t
f***e
h***a
i***r
i***s
l***e
t***t


Ask yourself if this sounds feasible, where so many (10) of the same buyers of the book from 24 March would all be around on 20 April, for those brief 15 minutes, to buy the book again?

Those probably are friends and family helping things along.


And if you want to find out more about becoming a best selling author on Amazon, all in the name of selling "training" content, which is what MA does sell, read this:
https://observer.com/2016/02/behind-the-scam-what-does-it-takes-to-be-a-bestselling-author-3-and-5-minutes/

Searching "Manipulating the World Economy" reveals additional sellers selling more than 10 copies, more expensive than the original. Looks like a pyramid scheme in its own right.

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

[MA_talk]

We have only 180 copies here in Florida which can be mailed out immediately this week. The rest (1600 left) are in Pennsylvania which we intend to deliver to Amazon. It will probably take them a few more weeks to get them posted. But for now, we have 180 left here in Florida for our readers only.

Please go to eBay to complete that transaction.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324141916183

You guys see what I see under "Similar sponsored items" and "People who viewed this item also viewed", right?

Didn't Armstrong had a Japanese girlfriend for a while? Guess who's buying the books up...

The images are so hilarious!!  It obviously shows the products that were bought by the people (or a single person) who is buying his book.  For obvious reason, the buyer(possibly Martin himself) appears to be peeking at Japanese girls.

[MA_talk]

The other hilarious thing is MA claiming his machine predicted COVID-19 and the ensuing economic carnage it has caused. Yet again, that same (cycle?) playbook is rolled out where MA claims his machine predicted the event - but only AFTER it happened. The very same thing happened with the REPO crisis in September, which alas saw an expensive "report" available to buy. The same thing with COVID-19, only this time a virtual webinar is being hosted, because the virus has brutally cancelled MA's only pay cheque this year.


Having attended his 2018 WEC in Orlando, I can you tell you this:

The main prediction from 2020-2024 was for a COMMODITY BOOM, where CA and AU would be the big winners over other major Western economies. Based on a massive decline in consumer and therefore business demand in the coming years, both because of unemployment/bankruptcy and simply permanently changed behaviours, that now seems unlikely. Oil has been declining since 2014 and it looks unlikely that trend will reverse, not least with renewables becoming more mainstream.

At the 2018 Orlando WEC, not once did MA mention:

• 2020 would see an economic crash that would be as historic as 1929
• Oil futures would turn negative for the first time in history
• Major economies would see the highest increase in unemployed in history
• That this would all be caused by an overreaction to an unknown virus

...

Thank you for your precious review.  I checked the date of Armstrong's commodity boom post on financialsense.com, and it was "right on target", exactly landing at the PEAK of $CRB index.  As I have said many times, you gain a LOT more money by trading AGAINST Armstrong's advice.  For Armstrong, I'm sure he can twist his words and brains and convince readers of all kinds that

a commodity boom means NEGATIVE crude oil price!

That should go into historical failures of predictions made by anyone.  A boom is a NEGATIVE price?!

[Armstronghater]

The other hilarious thing is MA claiming his machine predicted COVID-19 and the ensuing economic carnage it has caused. Yet again, that same (cycle?) playbook is rolled out where MA claims his machine predicted the event - but only AFTER it happened. The very same thing happened with the REPO crisis in September, which alas saw an expensive "report" available to buy. The same thing with COVID-19, only this time a virtual webinar is being hosted, because the virus has brutally cancelled MA's only pay cheque this year.


Having attended his 2018 WEC in Orlando, I can you tell you this:

The main prediction from 2020-2024 was for a COMMODITY BOOM, where CA and AU would be the big winners over other major Western economies. Based on a massive decline in consumer and therefore business demand in the coming years, both because of unemployment/bankruptcy and simply permanently changed behaviours, that now seems unlikely. Oil has been declining since 2014 and it looks unlikely that trend will reverse, not least with renewables becoming more mainstream.

At the 2018 Orlando WEC, not once did MA mention:

• 2020 would see an economic crash that would be as historic as 1929
• Oil futures would turn negative for the first time in history
• Major economies would see the highest increase in unemployed in history
• That this would all be caused by an overreaction to an unknown virus

...

Thank you for your precious review.  I checked the date of Armstrong's commodity boom post on financialsense.com, and it was "right on target", exactly landing at the PEAK of $CRB index.  As I have said many times, you gain a LOT more money by trading AGAINST Armstrong's advice.  For Armstrong, I'm sure he can twist his words and brains and convince readers of all kinds that

a commodity boom means NEGATIVE crude oil price!

That should go into historical failures of predictions made by anyone.  A boom is a NEGATIVE price?!

FinanacialSense was dead wrong on tons of things as well around the 2008 crash (which is why I stopped listening shortly after).
Puplava and company were making fun of people for buying treasury bonds. A few weeks later they said they were then buying treasury bonds. They also were very bullish on junior mining stocks, which then plummeted like crazy.
Puplava at one point also claimed his favorite investments were corn, natural gas and silver.  All were much, much lower a year later.
Eric King should be added to the list of "experts" who have given some really crappy financial advice.

Honestly, the fact financialsense even has Armstrong on should tell you a bit about it.

[s29]

Didn't Armstrong had a Japanese girlfriend for a while? Guess who's buying the books up...

Now I remember:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/communismsocialism-better-sex-for-women/

"I use to have a Russian girlfriend we met in Tokyo back in the ’90s."

[s29]

https://youtu.be/7wJ_BTOLxxo?t=324  
[Jan 24, 2020]  

Interviewer:  are you suggesting that the markets gonna go lower here over the next month, two months, three months, but you want to buy that dip?
Marty:  yes I mean it's I mean the market would have to go below 19,000 in order to actually say you've got a bear market so it's... that's pretty far away we don't expect an actual change in long-term trend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWYvPzoX7Kw&feature=youtu.be&t=1666

Armstrong: "When does hyperinflation take place? Only when people lose confidence in the government. We're not at that stage yet. That will come when you start seeing you know muni's collapsing, you know Europe breaks apart, relinquishing their debt, defaulting, now you start saying: wait a minute: I don't trust government."

LOL, Armstrong has been beating the drums about a collapse in trust in goverments since at least 2013; and especially after his ECM turning point of 2015. Now he says it didn't take place yet. At least 5 years too early Marty, oopsie!

Rest of the interview is a lot of kicking at open doors (people are going to protest the lockdowns) and vague preditions (especially on the Dow - "Short term it probably bottomed" - what an amazing prediction from The Forecaster?).

Also he's downplaying the Coronavirus again, which could actually be manmade ( https://www.zerohedge.com/health/renowned-microbiologist-claims-wuhan-lab-did-absolutely-crazy-things-coronavirus ), and therefore is so agressive. Marty himself doesn't sound healthy at all during the interview by the way, a lot of moments where he's clearing his throat etc. I don't think he would survive an infection from the Coronavirus, he's also part of the vulnerable elderly group. The downplaying of the virus by Armstrong could not only be dangerous financially, but also healthwise.

[AnonymousCoder]

...The downplaying of the virus by Armstrong could not only be dangerous financially, but also healthwise.

He does not care. He cares about the number of people to defraud with his scam. There is an inexhaustible pool of right wing idiots who are anti-government that he preys on and he aligns his campaigns with that potential. He gives them all they need to boost their confidence in him - the stuff they want to hear.

Besides he is pissed off that he cannot have his conferences.

Every single defrauded person should report their case at econsumer.gov


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.