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November 29, 2019, 02:24:48 PM
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"AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER."


This is nonsense we were updated on the 29 of January 2016
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/gold-the-bounce-3/
"We need to see a weekly closing above the 1143 level to raise any hope of a temporary low. Without that, we have a turning point in February that can be a high moving into the next benchmark target. A closing for January below the 1103 level will warn that there is inherent weakness still lingering within this market. Next month, watch the 1097 level for that is key support. Break that, and we are looking into a low into the second benchmark."

AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. You need to try and stop lying so much and making things up as you go along and yes keep quoting how you think a quarterly reversal time span is one quarter when its
Actually 1 to 3 quarters…

Gold Report 2016 Part 1 Targeting the Reaction High and Final Low
Publish date: March 1, 2016

Another anomaly was that at the end of 2015, we elected the Quarterly Bearish
Reversal at 1112 closing at 1060.20. At the same time, that low generated a
minor Quarterly Bullish Reversal at 993.

 I Find it hilarious when you said "When he writes At the same time, he is not telling the truth."

How do you know he is not telling the truth?

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"Gold elected the Quarterly Bearish Reversal, which is a sell signal."


We elected a quarterly bearish and a minor quarterly bullish so no sorry it was not a sell signal.
Gold also closed at 2015 year end at 1060 just missing its yearly bearish reversal sell signal at 1044.5

We received two conflicting signals electing a bullish and a bearish simultaneously so It would of taken the electing of more bullish or bearish reversals to PROVE THE DIRECTION that the market was moving at least in the short term. This is precisely why Armstrong could not give a call at that time. You are asking/expecting Armstrong to know and predict every single move in the market which is an absurd request. You say he lied but again you are back to square one because this claim is empty you have no proof. I guess we all just have to believe you…  Kiss

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Gumbi, too late. Ambiguous nonsense.

The fact is you claim the system went long end of 2015 (see quote) where that PUBLISHED bullish signal is months later. That is all that counts. It does not add up. No smoke screen now!

Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.


AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.

The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up.

Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Kiss

Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

HINDSIGHT, FRAUD. THIS HINDSIGHT MESSAGE IS MISREPRESENTATION OF PERFORMANCE, PURE FRAUD!

I love it.

Here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


HE HAD THIS INFORMATION, THIS BULLISH SIGNAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT AT THE SAME TIME FAILED TO TELL HIS CLIENTS Huh?? IN FACT HE SENT THE OPPOSITE SIGNAL TO HIS CLIENTS AT THE TIME!

IF HE KNEW, AND LET'S ASSUME WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


AND YES, I HAVE ALL THE REPORTS. HOW COULD I OTHERWISE QUOTE THEM? I HAVE EVERYTHING!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOST, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING AS WELL.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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November 29, 2019, 03:31:37 PM
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Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March 2016 our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

2015 gold report
"Additionally, we have a Quarterly Bearish Reversal at 1112. Therefore, a yearend
closing below this level should also warn of a drop becomes possible at
least to test the 875 to 904 former high of 1980".


Publish date: March 1, 2016(gold report)
"Another anomaly was that at the end of 2015, we elected the Quarterly Bearish
Reversal at 1112 closing at 1060.20. At the same time, that low generated a
minor Quarterly Bullish Reversal at 993. So we generated a long-term sell signal,
but a short-term buy signal".


So on the quarterly level the model reversed its short position and went long by electing a minor quarterly bullish at 993. That quarterly buy signal can never be given in advance! it is generated and in this case elected from the low made that quarter.


I can agree that it appears Armstrong failed to provide this key minor quarterly bullish reversal which implied a bounce in the short term.

So all you are left to cling to is that either Armstrong failed to provide this key minor quarterly bullish reversal at 993 or he simply made it up... if that is enough for you to conclude he is a fraud then so be it.  Kiss



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Gumbi, too late. Ambiguous nonsense.

The fact is you claim the system went long end of 2015 (see quote) where that PUBLISHED bullish signal is months later. That is all that counts. It does not add up. No smoke screen now!

Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.


AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.

The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up.

Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Kiss

Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

HINDSIGHT, FRAUD. THIS HINDSIGHT MESSAGE IS MISREPRESENTATION OF PERFORMANCE, PURE FRAUD!

I love it.

Here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


HE HAD THIS INFORMATION, THIS BULLISH SIGNAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT AT THE SAME TIME FAILED TO TELL HIS CLIENTS Huh?? IN FACT HE SENT THE OPPOSITE SIGNAL TO HIS CLIENTS AT THE TIME!

IF HE KNEW, AND LET'S ASSUME WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


AND YES, I HAVE ALL THE REPORTS. HOW COULD I OTHERWISE QUOTE THEM? I HAVE EVERYTHING!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOST, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING AS WELL.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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November 29, 2019, 05:48:06 PM
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Gumbi, I have to ask you a question which is very troublesome to me. You have claimed over and over again to never go by MA commentary and only the reversals. That statement is very disturbing since the reason MA set up 3 services, Investor, trader and Active trader( Pro version) for the different way people approach investing, sort of, what suits your needs. So here's where my jaw hit the floor, the investor level gives nothing but commentary, no reversals, not arrays and no energy, even in the computer generated report there is no reversals and arrays on monthly levels. So if what you are saying is correct subscribing to the investor level you just get to hear MA OPINION and is a waste of money. Just to be clear I've given my opinion on Socrates many, many pages ago and have been investing/trading since 1998. Very active at first to swing trading and now buy and hold with a very close eye out so the investor level was fine for me at this point. I found it useless and no longer subscribe but making that statement and claiming the pro version is the only viable choice at $150 a month is the very least disturbing and MA not being straight forward.  


I remember the summary analysis being like what you described with very little information but that has changed.

I uploaded a current copper futures summary analysis, see link below. Commentary on reversals are included in this report and turning points(array)
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D


It took me awhile to actually absorb you and Alex rebuttal since that's how long it took for my disbelief to ware off. Did you actually read that report you posted? If you did you are gonna tell me with a straight face that those are reversal numbers, arrays and energy in that report. You and Alex also claim that, that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated. To tell me, as a long term investor I don't need those numbers is absolutely an ignorant trader/investor statement. As for energy, as long as TA has been developed, energy, ie Volume ALWAYS proceeds price by days, weeks, month and years. To tell me as an long term investor, I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.
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November 29, 2019, 06:03:04 PM
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I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.

If you look into the report every month, you will notice when a buy or sell signal is given.  The critical support/resistance numbers are NOT TA but Rev.
It's not that I tell you that you don't need the energy indicator, it's what Armstrong says.
Anyways, it looks like you are done with Socrates - so there is no point to continue the discussion.  It's a waste of time for both of us.
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Just a reminder since we are talking about the investor level. Nothing much has changed - the buy / sell signals still have exactly the same format - without any reference to the date when they were generated.

Socrates Investor Level Track Record

Just an example, a very mild one.

1) I am choosing monthly buy and sell signals. These are less frequent than weekly signals, so the risk is reduced compared with weekly signals. The Investor Level report has both weekly and monthly signals.

2) I am choosing a an ETF, "GLD Miners" GDX, which should be easier to manage for Socrates because it is correlated with Gold, which is where Armstrong should have significant experience, and where I found generally better performance than with stocks.

The signal I am tracking is at the end of the report:

We have generated a (buy|sell) signal so some caution is required.

I buy when the first buy signal appears, and I reverse my position when the signal reverses to a sell signal.

Between 2016-06-07 and 2019-06-14, Socrates made 7 such reversals between buy and sell. The trades result in a loss of 35% of the initial capital. Only one trade was a gain. This proves that the trade signals that Socrates emits are on average buy the high, sell the low.

It is fair to say that this software is a piece of rubbish, and tossing a coin actually gives a better result.


Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

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Gumbi, I have to ask you a question which is very troublesome to me. You have claimed over and over again to never go by MA commentary and only the reversals. That statement is very disturbing since the reason MA set up 3 services, Investor, trader and Active trader( Pro version) for the different way people approach investing, sort of, what suits your needs. So here's where my jaw hit the floor, the investor level gives nothing but commentary, no reversals, not arrays and no energy, even in the computer generated report there is no reversals and arrays on monthly levels. So if what you are saying is correct subscribing to the investor level you just get to hear MA OPINION and is a waste of money. Just to be clear I've given my opinion on Socrates many, many pages ago and have been investing/trading since 1998. Very active at first to swing trading and now buy and hold with a very close eye out so the investor level was fine for me at this point. I found it useless and no longer subscribe but making that statement and claiming the pro version is the only viable choice at $150 a month is the very least disturbing and MA not being straight forward.  


I remember the summary analysis being like what you described with very little information but that has changed.

I uploaded a current copper futures summary analysis, see link below. Commentary on reversals are included in this report and turning points(array)
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D


It took me awhile to actually absorb you and Alex rebuttal since that's how long it took for my disbelief to ware off. Did you actually read that report you posted? If you did you are gonna tell me with a straight face that those are reversal numbers, arrays and energy in that report. You and Alex also claim that, that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated. To tell me, as a long term investor I don't need those numbers is absolutely an ignorant trader/investor statement. As for energy, as long as TA has been developed, energy, ie Volume ALWAYS proceeds price by days, weeks, month and years. To tell me as an long term investor, I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.


Never said anything about energy but commentary on reversals are included in the summary analysis and turning points(array)

"we have not elected any bullish reversals from the last low established during the third quarter 2019. "
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D

that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated

"the last reversal to be elected on the weekly level was a bullish the week of November the 18th"
https://imgur.com/aLhZoy0

There is the proof that it does in fact tell you when the last bullish/bearish reversal was elected and it is updated every single day. it is  a summary analysis your complaint is you don't get all the reversals which of course is the case you need to pay for the detailed analysis for all those levels.


its called SUMMARY ANALYSIS for a reason




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November 29, 2019, 06:22:37 PM
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Gumbi, he is referring to monthly sell signal in the last sentence. There is NO reference in the report to the date when that sell signal was generated. Again a cheap smoke screen that you are creating here. All bullshit.

The tactic is to write a lengthy reply with some statements he hopes nobody is going to check anyway. Disgusting.

Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.


AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.

The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up.

Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Kiss

Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

HINDSIGHT, FRAUD. THIS HINDSIGHT MESSAGE IS MISREPRESENTATION OF PERFORMANCE, PURE FRAUD!

I love it.

Here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


HE HAD THIS INFORMATION, THIS BULLISH SIGNAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT AT THE SAME TIME FAILED TO TELL HIS CLIENTS Huh?? IN FACT HE SENT THE OPPOSITE SIGNAL TO HIS CLIENTS AT THE TIME!

IF HE KNEW, AND LET'S ASSUME WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


AND YES, I HAVE ALL THE REPORTS. HOW COULD I OTHERWISE QUOTE THEM? I HAVE EVERYTHING!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOST, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING AS WELL.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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Gold Report 2016 Part 1
"At the same time, that low generated a minor Quarterly Bullish Reversal at 993."

AnonymousCoder
"When he writes At the same time, he is not telling the truth." Huh



Your so called proof that Armstrong is a fraud rests entirely on the belief that Armstrong is lying about a quarterly bullish reversal not being generated and elected.  Kiss
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This is just a reply that provides proof by means of a severe example that many people have been complaining about. The example is just what it is - an example of the scam strategies used by Armstrong, which are all based on ambiguity. I am serious. He will get this reply until he stops posting his rubbish. Nobody agrees with Gumby except his one or two affiliates like Alex11.

He just wants to get rid of my replies. I am getting tired of writing the details, so he gets a template.

Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.


AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.

The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up.

Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Kiss

Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

HINDSIGHT, FRAUD. THIS HINDSIGHT MESSAGE IS MISREPRESENTATION OF PERFORMANCE, PURE FRAUD!

I love it.

Here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


HE HAD THIS INFORMATION, THIS BULLISH SIGNAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT AT THE SAME TIME FAILED TO TELL HIS CLIENTS Huh?? IN FACT HE SENT THE OPPOSITE SIGNAL TO HIS CLIENTS AT THE TIME!

IF HE KNEW, AND LET'S ASSUME WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


AND YES, I HAVE ALL THE REPORTS. HOW COULD I OTHERWISE QUOTE THEM? I HAVE EVERYTHING!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOST, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING AS WELL.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.

If you look into the report every month, you will notice when a buy or sell signal is given.  The critical support/resistance numbers are NOT TA but Rev.
It's not that I tell you that you don't need the energy indicator, it's what Armstrong says.
Anyways, it looks like you are done with Socrates - so there is no point to continue the discussion.  It's a waste of time for both of us.
Support and resistance are not MA reversal and he has separated them many, many times. So he's misdirecting. Of coarse he's not giving it to you, he wants you to move up in levels, no thank you.
So the validity is no longer relevant since I'm not a subscriber?
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Gumbi, I have to ask you a question which is very troublesome to me. You have claimed over and over again to never go by MA commentary and only the reversals. That statement is very disturbing since the reason MA set up 3 services, Investor, trader and Active trader( Pro version) for the different way people approach investing, sort of, what suits your needs. So here's where my jaw hit the floor, the investor level gives nothing but commentary, no reversals, not arrays and no energy, even in the computer generated report there is no reversals and arrays on monthly levels. So if what you are saying is correct subscribing to the investor level you just get to hear MA OPINION and is a waste of money. Just to be clear I've given my opinion on Socrates many, many pages ago and have been investing/trading since 1998. Very active at first to swing trading and now buy and hold with a very close eye out so the investor level was fine for me at this point. I found it useless and no longer subscribe but making that statement and claiming the pro version is the only viable choice at $150 a month is the very least disturbing and MA not being straight forward.  


I remember the summary analysis being like what you described with very little information but that has changed.

I uploaded a current copper futures summary analysis, see link below. Commentary on reversals are included in this report and turning points(array)
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D


It took me awhile to actually absorb you and Alex rebuttal since that's how long it took for my disbelief to ware off. Did you actually read that report you posted? If you did you are gonna tell me with a straight face that those are reversal numbers, arrays and energy in that report. You and Alex also claim that, that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated. To tell me, as a long term investor I don't need those numbers is absolutely an ignorant trader/investor statement. As for energy, as long as TA has been developed, energy, ie Volume ALWAYS proceeds price by days, weeks, month and years. To tell me as an long term investor, I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.


Never said anything about energy but commentary on reversals are included in the summary analysis and turning points(array)

"we have not elected any bullish reversals from the last low established during the third quarter 2019. "
https://imgur.com/a/GrhGH6D

that commentary( which you so vividly claim we shouldn't go by) constitutes sell signals with no point of reference or when they so called were generated

"the last reversal to be elected on the weekly level was a bullish the week of November the 18th"
https://imgur.com/aLhZoy0

There is the proof that it does in fact tell you when the last bullish/bearish reversal was elected and it is updated every single day. it is  a summary analysis your complaint is you don't get all the reversals which of course is the case you need to pay for the detailed analysis for all those levels.


its called SUMMARY ANALYSIS for a reason

Again, those aren't reversals, they're support and resistance which MA has separated many many times.The fact you are calling those numbers reversals is revealing. From what I see is that the people who actually have trading/investor experience clearly see the flaws in this system, which are many. Thank god I didn't listen to MA for the Gold 2015 bottom and came out ahead.

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I don't need that is at least, you have no trading/investor experience or you're lying.

If you look into the report every month, you will notice when a buy or sell signal is given.  The critical support/resistance numbers are NOT TA but Rev.
It's not that I tell you that you don't need the energy indicator, it's what Armstrong says.
Anyways, it looks like you are done with Socrates - so there is no point to continue the discussion.  It's a waste of time for both of us.
Support and resistance are not MA reversal and he has separated them many, many times. So he's misdirecting. Of coarse he's not giving it to you, he wants you to move up in levels, no thank you.
So the validity is no longer relevant since I'm not a member?

The point is that members of this outfit are bashing their clients. They have always done that. Armstrong's support staff abused me even while I was a member. Same people.


These guys would be better off leaving this blog for good. They are their worst enemies.





Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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"You are calling those numbers reversals is revealing."

I never called those numbers reversals Huh I clearly said there is commentary on the reversals!!!

Its a summary analysis if you want the specific reversal levels then you need to purchase the detailed analysis...


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 In case you have not realized you don't really have an audience.  Your last resort is to just try and shut me up because your argument cannot stand on its own. Clearly you won't allow me to continue posting without spamming me so I guess censorship and out right attacking me is the only way you can succeed at this point.

You and others have already come to a conclusion so there is no use in discussing further so don't worry AnonymousCoder i wont be posting anymore. You are desperately trying to control the narrative and wont allow other people to voice their views because you are a fanatic believer and a fascist thinking you are the only one who's opinion matters and anybody who disagrees with you is part of the scam. You truly have created a great conspiracy theory.
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"You are calling those numbers reversals is revealing."

I never called those numbers reversals Huh I clearly said there is commentary on the reversals!!!

Its a summary analysis if you want the specific reversal levels then you need to purchase the detailed analysis...


@AnonymousCoder
 In case you have not realized you don't really have an audience.  Your last resort is to just try and shut me up because your argument cannot stand on its own. Clearly you won't allow me to continue posting without spamming me so I guess censorship and out right attacking me is the only way you can succeed at this point.

You and others have already come to a conclusion so there is no use in discussing further so don't worry AnonymousCoder i wont be posting anymore. You are desperately trying to control the narrative and wont allow other people to voice their views because you are a fanatic believer and a fascist thinking you are the only one who's opinion matters and anybody who disagrees with you is part of the scam. You truly have created a great conspiracy theory.


Nonsense of the highest order Gumbi.  If its profiable POST YOUR Account showing this. The reason you wont post this is because you cant. Anything else is PURE HYPERTHETICAL NONSENSE. The proof is in the pudding and you have no pudding.

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"You are calling those numbers reversals is revealing."

I never called those numbers reversals Huh I clearly said there is commentary on the reversals!!!

Its a summary analysis if you want the specific reversal levels then you need to purchase the detailed analysis...


@AnonymousCoder
 In case you have not realized you don't really have an audience.  Your last resort is to just try and shut me up because your argument cannot stand on its own. Clearly you won't allow me to continue posting without spamming me so I guess censorship and out right attacking me is the only way you can succeed at this point.

You and others have already come to a conclusion so there is no use in discussing further so don't worry AnonymousCoder i wont be posting anymore. You are desperately trying to control the narrative and wont allow other people to voice their views because you are a fanatic believer and a fascist thinking you are the only one who's opinion matters and anybody who disagrees with you is part of the scam. You truly have created a great conspiracy theory.


Nonsense of the highest order Gumbi.  If its profiable POST YOUR Account showing this. The reason you wont post this is because you cant. Anything else is PURE HYPERTHETICAL NONSENSE. The proof is in the pudding and you have no pudding.




Its not my job to explain or prove anything to you, I personally couldn’t care less what you think about Socrates or Armstrong I am done posting because AnonymousCoder will not allow me to without spamming as you have already seen, this forum has been taken over by the mob that is AnonymousCoder.

It's your lose not mine. I have nothing to gain by convincing you of anything.
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You have proved nothing gumbi except to show that it doesn't work and can't be traded, having to wake up and decide to go long or short depending on which of the multiple signals to chose.

The fact is Marty was Short GOLD and never mentioned going long until it had moved substntially higher, he missed the stock low last xmas, he missed the 2000 point move in eurchf expecting it to go the opposite way which is still some 4000 pips away 5 or 6 years later. Should I go on or is that enough?

How many busted calls do we have to post before you accept it doesn't work?

OH and that latest nonsense with the Nov 21 being the goldmands case and the phi time, what utter drivell.
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You have proved nothing gumbi except to show that it doesn't work and can't be traded, having to wake up and decide to go long or short depending on which of the multiple signals to chose.

The fact is Marty was Short GOLD and never mentioned going long until it had moved substntially higher, he missed the stock low last xmas, he missed the 2000 point move in eurchf expecting it to go the opposite way which is still some 4000 pips away 5 or 6 years later. Should I go on or is that enough?

How many busted calls do we have to post before you accept it doesn't work?

OH and that latest nonsense with the Nov 21 being the goldmands case and the phi time, what utter drivell.


There is nobody left to blame but yourself now that Socrates has been fully released with all the reversals and arrays. Armstrong barely posts anymore on his private blog because there is no real need. I'm pretty sure you were not on Princeton economics website which actually had the GMW from daily to monthly in 2015 for free. The GMW was like pure gold at that time since we didn't have much to work with then.

the only thing you are referring to is his public blog and he can only go so far and reveal so much there.

Do yourself a favor and read the private blog posts starting from 2016 going into at least 2017/2018 and all will be revealed regarding the metals and the indices. Have a look and see what reversals were given and see for yourself whether they worked or not. Its right there a record of everything Armstrong posted on his private blog. You will have to discover the truth on your own I cannot do it for you...


 And of course AnonymousCoder has never gone through the private blog and is still stuck on the gold play that ended in early 2016 for him, that is a real sad state of affairs  how many calls Armstrong has made after the fact on his private blog and he is hung up on one trade from the hundreds of trades given on his private blog he clings to one as proof of his assertion.

  I cannot continue to post because this forum has been taken over by the  mob that is AnonymousCoder and he is doing everything in his power to silence me, it clearly has become personal.


 Private Blogs: I have all private blogs and these do NOT contain anything contradicting our message. You did have the chance to quote any relevant private blog messages but you failed to do so.

update* you almost sound upset to see me go AnonymousCoder Angry   You never wanted to talk about anything other than the gold report in 2015 and early 2016 March that is the time period and the blog posts you were fixated on and there was no way to move ahead to other trades. And you have not read a single private blog post from 2017 going into 2019 because you have been fixated on one trade where the only conclusion is to believe Armstrong lied or failed to let clients know in time. I am done with trying to explain anything to you I do not care what you believe or have to say about Armstrong or Socrates, who are you at the end of the day? just a disgruntled owner of the 2015 gold report who lost out on one trade, ultimately your opinion means nothing.  

Good luck guys hope you find success with your trading with or without Socrates. Smiley


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Gumbi, too late. Ambiguous nonsense. Another insult.

1) GMW: Now you are contradicting yourself again even mentioning GMW pattern recognition which according to all of Armstrong's and your own recommendations cannot be traded.

2) Private Blogs: I have all private blogs and these do NOT contain anything contradicting our message. You did have the chance to quote any relevant private blog messages but you failed to do so.

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Do yourself a favor and read the private blog posts starting from 2016 and all will be revealed. Have a look and see what reversals were given and see for yourself whether they worked or not. Its right there a record of everything Armstrong posted on his private blog. You will have to discover the truth on your own I cannot do it for you...


Now you think that we are all idiots because you are inviting us to try proving your point, something you failed to do? What a miserable idea. Thank you for posting this junk so everybody can clearly see your state of mind.

The fact is you claim the system went long end of 2015 (see quote below) with that bullish signal PUBLISHED months later. That is all that counts. It does not add up. No smoke screen now!

Whatever smokescreen Gumbi and cohorts are coming up with now, they get this reply. I know Gumbi just wants this message to go away but I am not going to do him the favor. I am just not taking his baits for more nonsense any more.

The pattern is the same again and again: Pick one of the ambiguous conflicting Socrates signals in hindsight to argue the case. For us, there is no need to formulate a custom response to that. We use this model case as a standard response reply to show what these charlatans are doing.

I have an obligation to spread the message for the honest people, and as painful as it is for me, I am going to persevere until the Armstrong promoters shut up. So they are warned. The honest people have all the facts on their side.


AnonymousCoder"Quarterly reversal time unit is one quarter. Gold rallied before the quarter was over and no other signal in the opposite direction was available to indicate change of direction.

The time span is 1 to 3 units in time so the quarterly bearish reversal had 1 to 3 quarters before time was up.

Armstrong wrote on his private blog on the first of March our quarterly level of the model generated a bullish reversal at the end of the year reversing its short position and going long. This also signaled that gold would rally from the $1060 area and should test the next bullish reversal at the $1347 level."

Not sure if you are aware or not but you are losing this discussion.  Kiss

Here we go. You are providing the proof of my assertion yourself!

HINDSIGHT, FRAUD. THIS HINDSIGHT MESSAGE IS MISREPRESENTATION OF PERFORMANCE, PURE FRAUD!

I love it.

Here you are saying, and I know you are speaking for Martin Armstrong, that


HE HAD THIS INFORMATION, THIS BULLISH SIGNAL AT THE END OF THE YEAR BUT AT THE SAME TIME FAILED TO TELL HIS CLIENTS Huh?? IN FACT HE SENT THE OPPOSITE SIGNAL TO HIS CLIENTS AT THE TIME!

IF HE KNEW, AND LET'S ASSUME WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING AGAINST HIS CLIENTS BECAUSE HE PUBLISHED THIS SIGNAL ONLY THREE MONTHS LATER.

You are not worth the respect of a single honest being on earth! You are a fraud!


AND YES, I HAVE ALL THE REPORTS. HOW COULD I OTHERWISE QUOTE THEM? I HAVE EVERYTHING!

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOST, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING AS WELL.



Here is a detailed time line of the events:


Quarterly Superposition Event in Gold 2015



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for a reason.

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.
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