What's your opinion of gun control?

[TheButterZone]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

[valta4065]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

[BADecker]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

[TheButterZone]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

No, it's animal control. Wolves controlling sheep, all the way to their own democide, as seen in Germany prior to the end of WWII.

[BADecker]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

No, it's animal control. Wolves controlling sheep, all the way to their own democide, as seen in Germany prior to the end of WWII.

Right.

In America, because of the way the legal system is set up, the wolves need to be a lot sneakier about to make it work.

[valta4065]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

[MoneyChanger]

Guns are in our genes we are hunters..

[BADecker]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

[A0LA]

There are countries where guns are not allowed and where people haven't even heard a gun shot. But no, the US knows better. Because John Wayne fans want to be all cowboys.

... and all French men ride bicycles around wearing a horizontal black and white striped shirt and a beret with a loaf of french bread under their arm, and a wedge of cheese in their hand and a bottle of wine under the other arm while they twirl their mustaches.



Any other stereotypes derived from entertainment media you would like to throw out there to justify your opinions?

I agree with U! Stop whit your stereotypes  !

As if all Americans were like this ...

[BADecker]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

A few of them might be so fearless that they would choose schools anyway. But if the schools were not gun free, both the terrorists that attack the schools, along with the potential terrorists who are students at the schools, would be dead in short order.

[darkangel11]

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

[Spendulus]

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

IIRC there is a Texas law that a convicted felon should be allowed to keep firearms in his own home for personal protection.  In the 19th century it was considered unjust that having served his time, he should be freed only to be defenseless when marauding bands of Indians came around.

Just thought that might be of interest.  That law is still on the books, and conflicts with US Federal law.  One of those things the powers that be don't want tested in court.

[yugo23]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

You know I see you in lots of threads and talking a lot, but I always get the impression that when you answer you don't really read what the other users write. Cause you're answers are always vague and not exactly on the subject.

[valta4065]

Why do you think so many mass shootings occur at a school, or other "gun free zone"?

The answer is that the crazy person knows it will be less likely that anyone will shoot back...

No, that's probably not the reason.
They choose the schools because they hate the people there.

So the heavily-armed-teacher, staff, IDF & police schools in Israel are being shot up by Daesh at the same rate or worse than the "gun-free teacher, staff, and AWOL police officer zones" in the US?

It's also why you can't have just a part of a country which is gun free. You need the whole country to be gun free or without gun control, cause if you set gun free zones, criminals and citizens will easily get guns by just going out and back of the zone.

But in all this posting, you need to remember one major thing. The gun control that we are generally talking about in this thread is not really gun control. Rather, it is people control - people controlling other people.

Well we're in a society. It's all about human interactions of course. You can't control anything else but human actions, what else could you do?

It's a bit a sneaky reasoning, you can apply this definition to EVERY decision taken by any kind of society. Not that it's wrong, but that is ALWAYS true, so not very interesting.

If you like being controlled by other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

If you like controlling other people, you will fit into the gun control scenario very well.

It's people who don't want the control either way, but would rather control themselves in freedom, who are resisting you controllers.

Do you actually read what I write?
Your answer has absolutely no link to mine. I was saying that it's a bit stupid to talk about people control because it's ALWAYS the case. The main point of human society IS to control humans.

If you don't even take the time to read and understand others word, don't bother replying neither.

[mOgliE]

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think 

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

[yugo23]

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think 

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

I don't understand how a child can kill himself or hurt anyone with a gun.

I mean, I'm not a gun specialist but most firearm aren't exactly easy to use! You need some strength in the fingers to pull the trigger!
I'm not sure I would have been able to do it when I was a child xD

[TheButterZone]

Note how there are NEVER any reports of any child firing a gun WITHOUT an "accidental" fatality, NEVER just an injury, NEVER zero bloodshed at all, even. This is because children find the few guns with feather trigger pulls that fire magic bullets that instantly kill with a single shot when pointed in a safe direction.

[yugo23]

These children are finding the few guns with feather trigger pulls that fire magic bullets that instantly kill with a single shot when pointed in a safe direction.

The irony 

Still, it's bit strange. And it is indeed horrible to think that dozens of children kill themselves every year... Because it means that hundreds injure themselves too!

[valta4065]

Note how there are NEVER any reports of any child firing a gun WITHOUT an "accidental" fatality, NEVER just an injury, NEVER zero bloodshed at all, even. This is because children find the few guns with feather trigger pulls that fire magic bullets that instantly kill with a single shot when pointed in a safe direction.

Of course there are not... How would you want the feds to report that?

If there is no accident and everything is fine, who is gonna warn the police? This is a stupid remark!
I mean you could apply that to everyone and everything...

"why doesn't any report about homicides talk about all the times when two people argue without shooting each other?"
Well just because I'm not going to report the police "hey! Nothing happen, we argued a lot but didn't shoot!"

That's random dude.

[TECSHARE]

I'm for gun control in the means that convicted criminals and children should not have access to it. Besides that people have the right to protect themselves and should be able to own guns.

And how do you ensure that children have no access to guns?

Sadly enough, around 60 children die each year just because they found a gun somewhere. I know it seems not a lot, and it sure isn't compared to the millions of inhabitants. But what does a life is worth? Especially a child life.

And 60 is the federal estimation, most other institutes have MUCH HIGHER data. But even the federal one is too much I think  

http://everytownresearch.org/reports/innocents_lost/

Thousands of children drown each year, why is it people such as yourself are not rallying to ban swimming pools? Would banning swimming pools not reduce the rate of accidental child deaths much more than banning guns? Why is this less of an issue to you? Perhaps your own bias against and ignorance of firearms?

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsSafeSwimmingPool/