What's your opinion of gun control?

[TECSHARE]

Gun control is fine if it's regulated and everything is controlled. It's kind of similar to drugs - if you ban them, people will still go and get them another way. An illegal way. Guns can be protective, but again, you need to regulate it and have people perform tests and psychological exams before they get the guns. Otherwise, it's not okay.

And tell me Mr. I have it all figured out from a socialist nation half a world away...
What is stopping those tests, doctors, and exams from being bias and regulating gun ownership out of existence? You ever hear of gulags? The state said those people were insane too. History shows us they simply had the wrong kind of opinions, and the government decided to regulate them out of existence. Tell me, exactly why should we trust the government to regulate firearm ownership when firearm ownership is designed to protect us from the government? Isn't that a bit like having the fox guarding the hen house?

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[Tech Mania]

Everyone should be able to carry as long as they don't have mental illness or are a criminal.

Its proven that you are safer if you carry a gun, you can prevent crimes.

[cameltoe]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

[TheButterZone]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a real problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Everyone should be able to carry as long as they don't have mental illness or are a criminal.

Real criminals (victimful ones) and real mentally ill people (ones who derive pleasure from making innocents suffer) are never kept from carrying guns. Only victimless criminals (jaywalkers) and those politically abused by psychiatry (who think making innocents suffer is wrong).

[cameltoe]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Look at South Korea, Japan, and other countries with extremely strict gun laws, they don't experience mass killings like our lovely gun slanging Cowboys here.

[TheButterZone]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a real problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Look at South Korea, Japan, and other countries with extremely strict gun laws, they don't experience mass killings like our lovely gun slanging Cowboys here.

I'm sure the victims in those countries thank you for revising all their mass killings out of history then.   /ignore

[TECSHARE]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Look at South Korea, Japan, and other countries with extremely strict gun laws, they don't experience mass killings like our lovely gun slanging Cowboys here.

Yes, those comparatively smaller nations with almost totally homogeneous races and cultures certainly does prove your point about a nation of 300+ million people with thousands of different races, cultures, and religions. I am convinced!

[FinalFantasy]

There was a recent shooting seem there is one everyday I'm sure most don't get reported. Maybe we should limit the number of bullets per gun to 2 really small size ones.

[TECSHARE]

There was a recent shooting seem there is one everyday I'm sure most don't get reported. Maybe we should limit the number of bullets per gun to 2 really small size ones.

You mean like how the brain cells in your skull are limited to two really small sized neurons?

[Spendulus]

There was a recent shooting seem there is one everyday I'm sure most don't get reported. Maybe we should limit the number of bullets per gun to 2 really small size ones.

Basically this creates a firearm which is okay for killing game like squirrels or rabits.   The idea is that one shot is fired, everything hides or runs, so there is no need for more than a couple rounds.

That has nothing to do with defense against armed humans.  Different subject entirely.

Incidentally, it has nothing to do with defense against large animals, either.  Think hog, bear, etc.

And who exactly is "the WE?"

[foggyb]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Its a VIOLENCE problem. Would you also say that because of car accidents, cars should be banned? NO. Use your brain for a change and figure out ways to reduce gun deaths without becoming fascist.

[TECSHARE]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Its a VIOLENCE problem. Would you also say that because of car accidents, cars should be banned? NO. Use your brain for a change and figure out ways to reduce gun deaths without becoming fascist.

Exactly. I wonder why no one is demanding a car ban. Cars kill far more people every year than people murdered with guns or even by gun accidents. Clearly cars are useful, and banning them is not an option. Gun control advocates aren't arguing that gun deaths need to be stopped, they are arguing that guns serve no purpose according to their own pacifist world view in their safe little homogenized suburb. You don't get to tell other people what the value of their own life and the lives of their loved ones is worth. You are not in a position to make such choices for others, only for yourself. If you don't want a gun in your home DON'T BUY ONE.

[BADecker]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Its a VIOLENCE problem. Would you also say that because of car accidents, cars should be banned? NO. Use your brain for a change and figure out ways to reduce gun deaths without becoming fascist.

Exactly. I wonder why no one is demanding a car ban. Cars kill far more people every year than people murdered with guns or even by gun accidents. Clearly cars are useful, and banning them is not an option. Gun control advocates aren't arguing that gun deaths need to be stopped, they are arguing that guns serve no purpose according to their own pacifist world view in their safe little homogenized suburb. You don't get to tell other people what the value of their own life and the lives of their loved ones is worth. You are not in a position to make such choices for others, only for yourself. If you don't want a gun in your home DON'T BUY ONE.

Yabut, but, but, but... Then a bad guy just might bring one in.  

[bitsmichel]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a real problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Everyone should be able to carry as long as they don't have mental illness or are a criminal.

Real criminals (victimful ones) and real mentally ill people (ones who derive pleasure from making innocents suffer) are never kept from carrying guns. Only victimless criminals (jaywalkers) and those politically abused by psychiatry (who think making innocents suffer is wrong).

Criminals always have guns. It's the law obiding citizens who don't have any protection.

[Bittclick]

What we really need is the police to crack down on criminal activities, not try to take away our legal weapons.

[Spendulus]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Its a VIOLENCE problem. Would you also say that because of car accidents, cars should be banned? NO. Use your brain for a change and figure out ways to reduce gun deaths without becoming fascist.

Exactly. I wonder why no one is demanding a car ban....

Because driverless cars, also known as State controlled and operated cars, are not yet widely available?

[BADecker]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Its a VIOLENCE problem. Would you also say that because of car accidents, cars should be banned? NO. Use your brain for a change and figure out ways to reduce gun deaths without becoming fascist.

Exactly. I wonder why no one is demanding a car ban....

Because driverless cars, also known as State controlled and operated cars, are not yet widely available?

But when they are, if they harm anybody because of a mistake the car makes, the people in government who authorized their use are responsible.

Same with guns. It's a "people" problem, not a gun problem.

And I wasn't contradicting you... just extending. I am much on your side in this issue.

[BADecker]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

The gun problem is that so few people have the more effective "big" guns. And ammo is a little in short supply. And the biggest problem is that government is trying to keep people from having guns. So, yes, we have a gigantic gun problem in America. But it is far better than most other places in the world.

[Mike Christ]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Look at South Korea, Japan, and other countries with extremely strict gun laws, they don't experience mass killings like our lovely gun slanging Cowboys here.

That's not the cause of gun control law, it's the cause of cultural homogeny.  America is, shall we say, much more 'multicultural' than Japan or South Korea is, which leads to a greater amount of violence as these cultures, naturally, do not get along (and some are just plain more violent than others, I'm sure I don't need to mention which ones specifically, just look at the crime rates between each of these cultures.)  Take that out of the equation, make America as monocultural as Japan and South Korea is, and you'll notice the crime rate plummet, which includes the rate of mass killings.  Only true difference between these nations (Japan, SK, China, NK) is that their mass killings occur usually with stabbings, what I presume is the 2nd best thing next to guns to injure others.  So clearly the issue does not rest with guns, even in these societies where everyone ought to get along with so much in common, they still fail to.  So I guess if you really would rather be stabbed to death than shot, banning guns might help you out, but I sincerely feel the distinction is minute.  That's not to mention the power shift between those allowed to have guns--usually only those in the oligarchy--and those regular folks who have no sway over what is and is not acceptable for gun ownership.  If you feel this won't be abused for the decider's benefit, it is due to your naiveté towards power games.

And then there's the fact that, in the case of someone overpowering me to stab me (rather than shooting me), I am at a severe disadvantage since I'm not as strong as most people, and this is the case for many.  Firearms heavily level the playing field here.

Further, Europe has far more stricter gun laws in general than America does, and yet has mass killings on par with, if not greater than, America.  Also notice that Europe is also multicultural.  I hope the pattern is becoming clear to you.

It's identical to computer control, to limit who can have access to a computer and who can't, to prevent hackers from hacking and to prevent pedophiles from sharing CP etc.  Is the computer the problem?  No, it just facilitates action, it is neutral.  I can make this argument for just about anything.  What about encryption control?  What if some bad guys use encryption to hide their plots?  The harm in banning or controlling such far outweighs the benefit.  And hackers would still get their computers, and encryption is simple enough to do on your own anyway so that'd be hilarious to attempt to control.

Let's say that you have never used a computer in your life.  You feel that life is perfectly fine without computers.  You notice that computers are often used to do terrible things, and have been used to ruin many people's lives daily.  The odds of you supporting computer control skyrocket.  However, because--chances are--you do use computers regularly, you would feel personally infringed upon to have this right to computers tampered with.  You are far less likely to support such "Orwellian" measures, because you would personally feel the negative effects of that control.  What right does the government have to tell me whether I can use my PC, my laptop, my smart phone, my gaming console?  And I can guarantee you, if you tried using firearms, if you got comfortable with their presence, if you learned how to personally control them, you would not project your own feelings of being out-of-control with firearms onto a political agenda.  You feel the need for others to control firearms because you do not feel you have any control of them, and that makes them very scary.  You should learn how to use guns, your mind will change very quickly.

[Spendulus]

The people who don't believe that we have a gun problem in this country is out of their minds. Countless numbers of people die every year over guns so don't tell me we don't have a gun problem!

Use of guns in self-defense and self-determination (suicide) are both human rights, and not a problem for anyone but an aggressor. Remove those from the statistics and suddenly you find out that countless more numbers of people die every year because they were {il}legally disarmed for violent criminals' safety.

Look at South Korea, Japan, and other countries with extremely strict gun laws, they don't experience mass killings like our lovely gun slanging Cowboys here.

....You feel the need for others to control firearms because you do not feel you have any control of them, and that makes them very scary.  You should learn how to use guns, your mind will change very quickly.

Guns are actually kind of boring.   There are no "lovely gun slanging Cowboys here."