What's your opinion of gun control?

[yugo23]

Bullets kill but saying the riffle that shot it isn't relevant is as dumb as saying that who fires it is irrelevant.

Sure, okay then.  Go ahead and argue against those "Scary looking rifles" and look like a total dumb ass.  Be my guest.  While you are at it, argue against "Scary knives" and be sure to say that "butcher knives are okay."  Hell, extend it to "scary people." 

Could you stop being an asshole and admit some guns, lots of them, are uselessly powerful and dangerous?

What's the point of owning an automatic rifle? Do you really need it?

Ans yes "scary knives". Military knives meant to kill are not allowed in Europe for the simple reason that they were invented and designed to kill people! Hence normal citizens shouldn't have to use them!

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[Spendulus]

Bullets kill but saying the riffle that shot it isn't relevant is as dumb as saying that who fires it is irrelevant.

Sure, okay then.  Go ahead and argue against those "Scary looking rifles" and look like a total dumb ass.  Be my guest.  While you are at it, argue against "Scary knives" and be sure to say that "butcher knives are okay."  Hell, extend it to "scary people." 

Could you stop being an asshole and admit some guns, lots of them, are uselessly powerful and dangerous?

What's the point of owning an automatic rifle? Do you really need it?

Ans yes "scary knives". Military knives meant to kill are not allowed in Europe for the simple reason that they were invented and designed to kill people! Hence normal citizens shouldn't have to use them!

Automatic rifle?  Do you mean a machine gun, or are you referring to a rifle which uses part of the gas pressure to eject the shell and load the next shell?

After you are through figuring that out, let me know what "uselessly powerful and dangerous" means.  You want to go after a wild boar with a 22LR, I would sincerely like to watch.

[criptix]

What type of weapons did the pictures i posted  show and why are or should they be legal?

Why the heck should normal citiziens run around with (half) automatic assault rifles ( thats the correct translation i believe)?

They are designed to kill as much people as possible in the shortest timeframe.

[BADecker]

Bullets kill but saying the riffle that shot it isn't relevant is as dumb as saying that who fires it is irrelevant.

Sure, okay then.  Go ahead and argue against those "Scary looking rifles" and look like a total dumb ass.  Be my guest.  While you are at it, argue against "Scary knives" and be sure to say that "butcher knives are okay."  Hell, extend it to "scary people."  

Could you stop being an asshole and admit some guns, lots of them, are uselessly powerful and dangerous?

What's the point of owning an automatic rifle? Do you really need it?

Ans yes "scary knives". Military knives meant to kill are not allowed in Europe for the simple reason that they were invented and designed to kill people! Hence normal citizens shouldn't have to use them!

What's the point of owning a 4 bedroom house when there are only the two of you with no plans to have a family? Some families in Africa or Mexico still live in one room, and do it very well.

What's the point of owning 4 or 5 mansions when you can only live in one at a time?

What's the point of owning 10 cars. You can really only drive one at a time.

What's the point of owning closets full of clothes, 99% of which you will never wear? And think of all those shoes on their shoe racks?

What's the point of not owning many cars when you love cars?

What's the point of not owning lands and houses and closets full of clothes and shoes, when you love to have all these things around, even if you will never use them even once?

Get off it!

The point of guns is freedom. The point of gun control is to take your freedom away.

What if the gun freaks decided to get together and make it a law that everyone had to own 10 guns? But they don't, do they! They let you have your freedom to not own guns if you don't want to.

You better let the gun owners have their freedom. Why? Because if you push them too hard, they will push gun ownership requirements through Congress. Then you will be required to own guns.

And you better own guns. Why? Because it is the guys with the guns who have the ability to enforce it on you.

How will they enforce it on you? Why, with their guns, of course.

[romero121]

In one of the Asian countries province, 25 guns have been allowed legally but more than that is getting circulated in the province. This is how gun control is going on in several countries.

[bitsmichel]

Gun ban is only fake safety. Criminals and terrorist always get guns. Do you think terror attacks do not happen outside of the US because of gun regulation? 

[bonski]

Gun ban is only fake safety. Criminals and terrorist always get guns. Do you think terror attacks do not happen outside of the US because of gun regulation? 

Gun ban is just for a short term but gun control is a must for each country but no government can easily fight this problem because there are measurements on it. Criminals and terrorist won't even follow gun control rules they have own regulations when they're holding their guns

[Spendulus]

What type of weapons did the pictures i posted  show and why are or should they be legal?

Why the heck should normal citiziens run around with (half) automatic assault rifles ( thats the correct translation i believe)?

They are designed to kill as much people as possible in the shortest timeframe.

You have propaganda on the brain but thankfully ask questions that will reveal the logical errors which are always in propaganda.

The word is "semi-automatic."  Regarding the bolded, that is inaccurate.  Let me please explain something.

For the past 100 years or longer, yesterday's military weapon becomes today's hunting or personal protection weapon.

I believe most people would agree, AR15 variations are the most popular in the world for hunting, personal protection and so forth.  AK47 I don't know of it's use for hunting, but it could be in the West we don't hear of that, we only see it's use by "enemies."

Please learn about these things before voicing strong opinion as to what is "right."

Also note many things are illegal for average citizen - silencers, rifle barrels shorter than 14", machine gun, etc. etc.  In the USA some states have tried banning magazines with capacity higher than 10 rounds.  Those efforts I believe, everyone agrees have been failures.

[af_newbie]

What type of weapons did the pictures i posted  show and why are or should they be legal?

Why the heck should normal citiziens run around with (half) automatic assault rifles ( thats the correct translation i believe)?

They are designed to kill as much people as possible in the shortest timeframe.

You have propaganda on the brain but thankfully ask questions that will reveal the logical errors which are always in propaganda.

The word is "semi-automatic."  Regarding the bolded, that is inaccurate.  Let me please explain something.

For the past 100 years or longer, yesterday's military weapon becomes today's hunting or personal protection weapon.

I believe most people would agree, AR15 variations are the most popular in the world for hunting, personal protection and so forth.  AK47 I don't know of it's use for hunting, but it could be in the West we don't hear of that, we only see it's use by "enemies."

Please learn about these things before voicing strong opinion as to what is "right."

Also note many things are illegal for average citizen - silencers, rifle barrels shorter than 14", machine gun, etc. etc.  In the USA some states have tried banning magazines with capacity higher than 10 rounds.  Those efforts I believe, everyone agrees have been failures.

Not sure about AR15, but I took M14 hunting a couple of times, and I can tell you, semis are not optimal for hunting.  You have to walk loaded because the action is just too loud to load when you need it.  I find bolt action nice and quiet.  More accurate.  You just need one shot when hunting anyway.  After you take your shot, you run to (or after) the game.
With semi you always have to check if your safety is on, so that some twig does not unlock it, especially when you go over dense bush with other people near by. Bolt is the "go to" gun for hunting, at least for me.  

But for protecting your property, AR15 (or Mini14) is probably the best, 16" barrel, trijcon etc.  For inside the house, German Shepherd and .45ACP is a good solution for most issues.

[Spendulus]

Not sure about AR15, but I took M14 hunting a couple of times, and I can tell you, semis are not optimal for hunting.  You have to walk loaded because the action is just too loud to load when you need it.  I find bolt action nice and quiet.  More accurate.  You just need one shot when hunting anyway.  After you take your shot, you run to (or after) the game.
With semi you always have to check if your safety is on, so that some twig does not unlock it, especially when you go over dense bush with other people near by. Bolt is the "go to" gun for hunting, at least for me.  

But for protecting your property, AR15 (or Mini14) is probably the best, 16" barrel, trijcon etc.  For inside the house, German Shepherd and .45ACP is a good solution for most issues.

Nothing to disagree with in that, but it remains the AR15 family is the most popular.  Quite likely it's due to the platform versatility and interchangeable components.  I am okay with the home defense concern with a little 22LR, but that includes being ready to use it as a club if needed....

Posters who keep harping on the "scary black rifle" do not even comprehend that rate of fire from bolt action can be quite comparable to semi automatic.  Further the US Military designed the M16(military version of AR15) to do three shot bursts, not "full auto" specifically because of the ineffectiveness of full auto "spray and pray."  Which proves that "maximum killing power" is not a function of full auto.

And it has little to do with semi-auto.  It's not that you can't have a 30 round magazine on a bolt action hunting rifle.  Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  

Maybe these guys would be happy if all the Scary Black Rifles were outlawed, and rifles could only be owned if they were Pink?

[af_newbie]

... Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  
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I had 357 magnum S&W revolver and it was fun, but the long barrel and the kick was not something I'd recommend.

My wife could not shoot 357 with one hand.  .45ACP, .40 or even 9mm are much better for other people in your family to learn and become proficient shooters.   9mm hollow points in 147gr would leave a nasty wound, and would kill as well as .45ACP.

But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

[Spendulus]

... Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  
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I had 357 magnum S&W revolver and it was fun, but the long barrel and the kick was not something I'd recommend.

My wife could not shoot 357 with one hand.  .45ACP, .40 or even 9mm are much better for other people in your family to learn and become proficient shooters.   9mm hollow points in 147gr would leave a nasty wound, and would kill as well as .45ACP.

But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Okay, then the gun I want is a styrofoam 375 Dirty Harry mockup over my 22LR revolver.

Add the laser, too, please.  I do not think it is implausible that the bad guy seeing that red dot on his chest is going to quickly find his inner coward.

[craked5]

... Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  
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I had 357 magnum S&W revolver and it was fun, but the long barrel and the kick was not something I'd recommend.

My wife could not shoot 357 with one hand.  .45ACP, .40 or even 9mm are much better for other people in your family to learn and become proficient shooters.   9mm hollow points in 147gr would leave a nasty wound, and would kill as well as .45ACP.

But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

[tvbcof]

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But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

I find the idea that it is better to resolve a home invasion problem through intimidation than through maiming to be quite rational.  The idea that the potential to intimidate (or maim) by use of firearms stops a majority of potential problems before they start is, to me, obviously a good thing and clearly effective.

[Spendulus]

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But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

I find the idea that it is better to resolve a home invasion problem through intimidation than through maiming to be quite rational.  The idea that the potential to intimidate (or maim) by use of firearms stops a majority of potential problems before they start is, to me, obviously a good thing and clearly effective.

Beat me to it.  IMHO some robber may be a really bad example of a human but I'm loathe to shot him, much better to give him a chance to turn and run.  Including civilians and law enforcement, guns are probably used a hundred thousand times to peaceably get someone to comply with a request, for one time that it goes bang.

Interesting that from this point of view, the bigger and badder and scarier looking the weapon is, maybe good attributes of appearance.

[valta4065]

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But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

I find the idea that it is better to resolve a home invasion problem through intimidation than through maiming to be quite rational.  The idea that the potential to intimidate (or maim) by use of firearms stops a majority of potential problems before they start is, to me, obviously a good thing and clearly effective.

If only there was even ONE figure to correlate what you're saying...

But that's not what the statistics say about gun freedom...

[Spendulus]

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But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

I find the idea that it is better to resolve a home invasion problem through intimidation than through maiming to be quite rational.  The idea that the potential to intimidate (or maim) by use of firearms stops a majority of potential problems before they start is, to me, obviously a good thing and clearly effective.

If only there was even ONE figure to correlate what you're saying...

But that's not what the statistics say about gun freedom...

What statistics?  Stats on the number of things you make up?  I would agree those correlate with each other.

[yugo23]

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But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

I find the idea that it is better to resolve a home invasion problem through intimidation than through maiming to be quite rational.  The idea that the potential to intimidate (or maim) by use of firearms stops a majority of potential problems before they start is, to me, obviously a good thing and clearly effective.

If only there was even ONE figure to correlate what you're saying...

But that's not what the statistics say about gun freedom...

What statistics?  Stats on the number of things you make up?  I would agree those correlate with each other.

We provided multiple stats on violent crimes rates in USA. You debunked them saying that it's because USA is clearly diversified and that's why there is a lot of crimes.

Well as you wish. But none of you gave a single figure to back your claims.

[af_newbie]

... Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  
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I had 357 magnum S&W revolver and it was fun, but the long barrel and the kick was not something I'd recommend.

My wife could not shoot 357 with one hand.  .45ACP, .40 or even 9mm are much better for other people in your family to learn and become proficient shooters.   9mm hollow points in 147gr would leave a nasty wound, and would kill as well as .45ACP.

But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

Not sure I see the correlation.  What does shooting guns have to do with religion?  Other than the majority of religious nuts are also gun nuts?

I own guns, I hunt,  I eat meat, not sure why there is something wrong with that?  

Did I say guns are not dangerous?  They are deadly.  They are designed to kill, period.

IMHO, gun collectors are nuts.  I only have few rifles and handguns.  I use all of them, and the ones I stop using, I sell.  They are tools to shoot and kill wild game, a quick chicken, or scare intruders.

BTW, firing at someone would get you into more trouble that it is really worth.  So you better have a good reason...

IMHO, banning guns does not solve the issue of gun violence.

I see several issues with gun ownership.  One is that most people don't know how to use and maintain their guns.  They are actually endangering themselves and people around them by owning guns.  

First question on a gun license application should be: "What are you going to use gun for?"  then
"Why you need it?", "Have you ever participated in a hunt?", "Went to a shooting competition?"

If the answer is NO to either of the last two questions, you don't need guns IMHO.

[Spendulus]

... Further if there is any practical difference between a 357 magnum revolver and a 45 ACP I really can't see it.  
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I had 357 magnum S&W revolver and it was fun, but the long barrel and the kick was not something I'd recommend.

My wife could not shoot 357 with one hand.  .45ACP, .40 or even 9mm are much better for other people in your family to learn and become proficient shooters.   9mm hollow points in 147gr would leave a nasty wound, and would kill as well as .45ACP.

But 357 has this "Dirty Harry" look.  Any intruder will freeze at the sight of 357 cocked magnum revolver

Sad. The same guy talking about how stupid and illogical and dangerous religions are is promoting the gun ownership.

Not sure I see the correlation.  What does shooting guns have to do with religion?  Other than the majority of religious nuts are also gun nuts?

I own guns, I hunt,  I eat meat, not sure why there is something wrong with that?  

Did I say guns are not dangerous?  They are deadly.  They are designed to kill, period.

IMHO, gun collectors are nuts.  I only have few rifles and handguns.  I use all of them, and the ones I stop using, I sell.  They are tools to shoot and kill wild game, a quick chicken, or scare intruders.

BTW, firing at someone would get you into more trouble that it is really worth.  So you better have a good reason...

IMHO, banning guns does not solve the issue of gun violence.

I see several issues with gun ownership.  One is that most people don't know how to use and maintain their guns.  They are actually endangering themselves and people around them by owning guns.  

First question on a gun license application should be: "What are you going to use gun for?"  then
"Why you need it?", "Have you ever participated in a hunt?", "Went to a shooting competition?"

If the answer is NO to either of the last two questions, you don't need guns IMHO.

Well, that is your opinion.  But others - including many in law enforcement - are taught and / or believe that the weapon should be emptied into an attacker when necessary.  Different point of view. 

And of course you understand the 2nd amendment does not have anything to do with hunting or shooting competitions.

Thirdly, why not bar collecting of every sort?  Collectors are obviously nuts.  We probably have space in the mental hospitals for all of them.