Cricket match prediction discussions

[Haunebu]

I remember that a few months back we had a discussion whether to keep this thread. There are separate threads for ODI, T20 and test formats and the question was whether we need a general thread or not. Back then I had supported keeping this one, because we need a place to discuss issues related to cricket in general, and not specifically related to any of the formats.

Agreed. It's a good thing that this thread didn't get locked. We need a general cricket discussion thread in order to randomly post about any particular format without searching for the specific thread related to it.

Hopefully this love for cricket will be gone ahead by time despite any personal or national issues because sometimes I feel we have few members those go beyond limits which is good but still staying into better environment is good for all of us and this community.
Congrats Mates.

Many cricket enthusiasts focus way too much on the financial and political aspects of the game rather than focusing on the entertainment factor. Think people!

[tomos81]

The game played under the rain law is commonly called the DLS method. The DLS method has generated a lot of controversy at present. Many times it is seen that the laws of DLS make a very simple equation very difficult resulting in a candidate pressure among the players. I think it is necessary to make sure that the law is fair before playing in the rain Because if the decision is not in everyone's favor then cricket Cricket will lose its popularity so I must think again about the DLS method.

[noormcs5]

The game played under the rain law is commonly called the DLS method. The DLS method has generated a lot of controversy at present. Many times it is seen that the laws of DLS make a very simple equation very difficult resulting in a candidate pressure among the players. I think it is necessary to make sure that the law is fair before playing in the rain Because if the decision is not in everyone's favor then cricket Cricket will lose its popularity so I must think again about the DLS method.

The DLS (Duckworth-Lewis-Stern) Method has been there for many decades and also it was controversial in the past too. I remember the 1992 world cup semi-final, where England won against South Africa on the basis of DLS. DLS method sometimes gives an unfair advantage to the team batting first and makes the target really tough for the team batting second.

[Smack That Ace]

The game played under the rain law is commonly called the DLS method. The DLS method has generated a lot of controversy at present. Many times it is seen that the laws of DLS make a very simple equation very difficult resulting in a candidate pressure among the players. I think it is necessary to make sure that the law is fair before playing in the rain Because if the decision is not in everyone's favor then cricket Cricket will lose its popularity so I must think again about the DLS method.

The DLS (Duckworth-Lewis-Stern) Method has been there for many decades and also it was controversial in the past too. I remember the 1992 world cup semi-final, where England won against South Africa on the basis of DLS. DLS method sometimes gives an unfair advantage to the team batting first and makes the target really tough for the team batting second.

The DLS method is something that I am not a fan of, to be honest. The whole cricketing world has certainly seen some dumb decisions taken because of the DLS method. We have seen a lot of teams losing a winning match because of the DLS method which changes the equation drastically. This DLS method really needs to be revised. Cricket is already losing its popularity quite a bit in my opinion. And things are not going to improve unless ICC starts fixing the problems that Cricket has right now. In this day and age, I think the DLS method is one of them.


Regards

Duke

[Sithara007]

There is some bad news coming in. Sourav Ganguly has made it clear that he is not interested in becoming the ICC Chairman. And this further means that the corrupt Greg Barclay will continue as the ICC chairman for the next two years or so. The elections are due in November this year, and at this point it looks as if Barclay will be elected without any significant opposition, as he is the pig-4 nominee. I just hope that the boards outside the pig-4 unite this time around and get their nominee elected instead of Barclay.

[romero121]

There is some bad news coming in. Sourav Ganguly has made it clear that he is not interested in becoming the ICC Chairman. And this further means that the corrupt Greg Barclay will continue as the ICC chairman for the next two years or so. The elections are due in November this year, and at this point it looks as if Barclay will be elected without any significant opposition, as he is the pig-4 nominee. I just hope that the boards outside the pig-4 unite this time around and get their nominee elected instead of Barclay.

Even if Sourav Ganguly gets elected as the next ICC chairman nothing is gonna change. ICC will operate same as what we see now. Look at the situation of BCCI, there were big expectation over Sourav Ganguly when elected. What happened till date is nothing new. Whether it is Barclay or Ganguly ICC will remain to function same as now prioritising money.

[onecall123]

There is some bad news coming in. Sourav Ganguly has made it clear that he is not interested in becoming the ICC Chairman. And this further means that the corrupt Greg Barclay will continue as the ICC chairman for the next two years or so. The elections are due in November this year, and at this point it looks as if Barclay will be elected without any significant opposition, as he is the pig-4 nominee. I just hope that the boards outside the pig-4 unite this time around and get their nominee elected instead of Barclay.

Even if Sourav Ganguly gets elected as the next ICC chairman nothing is gonna change. ICC will operate same as what we see now. Look at the situation of BCCI, there were big expectation over Sourav Ganguly when elected. What happened till date is nothing new. Whether it is Barclay or Ganguly ICC will remain to function same as now prioritising money.

It is unlikely that many things will never change. There must be someone more reliable this time. It is crucial that the ICC get credible leaders, but most of the recent ICC presidents have made very biased decisions, which have not helped the game. Nevertheless, few things have already stabilized, be it money priorities or a particular board. It doesn't seem to be improving.

[JSRAW]

There is some bad news coming in. Sourav Ganguly has made it clear that he is not interested in becoming the ICC Chairman. And this further means that the corrupt Greg Barclay will continue as the ICC chairman for the next two years or so. The elections are due in November this year, and at this point it looks as if Barclay will be elected without any significant opposition, as he is the pig-4 nominee. I just hope that the boards outside the pig-4 unite this time around and get their nominee elected instead of Barclay.

Even if Sourav Ganguly gets elected as the next ICC chairman nothing is gonna change. ICC will operate same as what we see now. Look at the situation of BCCI, there were big expectation over Sourav Ganguly when elected. What happened till date is nothing new. Whether it is Barclay or Ganguly ICC will remain to function same as now prioritising money.

I second that completely. I was also very happy when Dada took the charge but he turned out to be a big disappointment on many occasion, which is kinda surprising because before taking chief role in BCCI he was competent administrator in bengali cricket board for quite some time and had a reputation of getting things done.

So i think it's not a bad thing if he not the contender for ICC chief. Likes of Kumble, Kumar Sangakkara might be a good options if they get the chance.

[Sithara007]

I second that completely. I was also very happy when Dada took the charge but he turned out to be a big disappointment on many occasion, which is kinda surprising because before taking chief role in BCCI he was competent administrator in bengali cricket board for quite some time and had a reputation of getting things done.

So i think it's not a bad thing if he not the contender for ICC chief. Likes of Kumble, Kumar Sangakkara might be a good options if they get the chance.

Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI president did OK, IMO. I would still prefer him over businessmen and politicians from the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia. However I have a feeling that it is Jay Shah and Anurag Thakur who are taking most of the decisions. Anyway, for the post of ICC chairman, Kumar Sangakkara is a good option. I don't know much about Anil Kumble as an administrator and in case he is interested then there maybe two nominees from pig-4. I just hope that some ex-player will be elected in November instead of these businessmen such as Barclay.

[romero121]

I second that completely. I was also very happy when Dada took the charge but he turned out to be a big disappointment on many occasion, which is kinda surprising because before taking chief role in BCCI he was competent administrator in bengali cricket board for quite some time and had a reputation of getting things done.

So i think it's not a bad thing if he not the contender for ICC chief. Likes of Kumble, Kumar Sangakkara might be a good options if they get the chance.

Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI president did OK, IMO. I would still prefer him over businessmen and politicians from the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia. However I have a feeling that it is Jay Shah and Anurag Thakur who are taking most of the decisions. Anyway, for the post of ICC chairman, Kumar Sangakkara is a good option. I don't know much about Anil Kumble as an administrator and in case he is interested then there maybe two nominees from pig-4. I just hope that some ex-player will be elected in November instead of these businessmen such as Barclay.

I'm not against Ganguly, but just remember those days of him getting sworn as BCCI President. He said his priority will be on first class cricket. During the pandemic the domestic cricketers suffered and not even a single rupee paid for them. It have taken years for them to receive compensation. For the very first time the 2020-2021 Ranji Trophy got cancelled, but the IPL was been organised. This is how he have done against expectation.

I too believe Sangakara to be a good choice. We don't know the reality, but he's well and good compared to the business personalities contesting.

[tomos81]

We all know that there are other sports in Olympics but cricket is not included in Olympic sport at present. As only a few countries participate in cricket, the game of cricket is not as popular as the game of football.If cricket is included in the Olympics, different countries will participate in the Olympics, which will lead to more countries joining cricket As a result of which the spread of cricket will increase all over the world and cricket will become a popular game like football. Hopefully ICC will take this step soon.

[coinerer]

There is some bad news coming in. Sourav Ganguly has made it clear that he is not interested in becoming the ICC Chairman. And this further means that the corrupt Greg Barclay will continue as the ICC chairman for the next two years or so. The elections are due in November this year, and at this point it looks as if Barclay will be elected without any significant opposition, as he is the pig-4 nominee. I just hope that the boards outside the pig-4 unite this time around and get their nominee elected instead of Barclay.

Even if Sourav Ganguly gets elected as the next ICC chairman nothing is gonna change. ICC will operate same as what we see now. Look at the situation of BCCI, there were big expectation over Sourav Ganguly when elected. What happened till date is nothing new. Whether it is Barclay or Ganguly ICC will remain to function same as now prioritising money.

It is unlikely that many things will never change. There must be someone more reliable this time. It is crucial that the ICC get credible leaders, but most of the recent ICC presidents have made very biased decisions, which have not helped the game. Nevertheless, few things have already stabilized, be it money priorities or a particular board. It doesn't seem to be improving.

Those who cannot participate in corruption will never want to get into that kind of position. Moreover, ICC is an institution where the powerful will not agree to give up power despite hundreds of complaints. In this way this organization has been running for a long time.

[JSRAW]

I second that completely. I was also very happy when Dada took the charge but he turned out to be a big disappointment on many occasion, which is kinda surprising because before taking chief role in BCCI he was competent administrator in bengali cricket board for quite some time and had a reputation of getting things done.

So i think it's not a bad thing if he not the contender for ICC chief. Likes of Kumble, Kumar Sangakkara might be a good options if they get the chance.

Sourav Ganguly as the BCCI president did OK, IMO. I would still prefer him over businessmen and politicians from the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia. However I have a feeling that it is Jay Shah and Anurag Thakur who are taking most of the decisions. Anyway, for the post of ICC chairman, Kumar Sangakkara is a good option. I don't know much about Anil Kumble as an administrator and in case he is interested then there maybe two nominees from pig-4. I just hope that some ex-player will be elected in November instead of these businessmen such as Barclay.

I'll focus on his fuckups only
-Not giving up chair despite his tenure got over
- Domestic players didn't get salary on time, it took them 1 year to sort out this situation.
- Derailing WIPL
- Last but not the least mishandling issue of Kohli, Dada fucked it up. He and his so called sources were shit too.

[Haunebu]

If cricket is included in the Olympics, different countries will participate in the Olympics, which will lead to more countries joining cricket As a result of which the spread of cricket will increase all over the world and cricket will become a popular game like football. Hopefully ICC will take this step soon.

They don't really care about the Olympics since money is what primarily matters to them. Let's face it. The Olympics and similar events aren't money generating tournaments and focus more on prestige.

Don't expect Cricket to become a part of the Olympics anytime soon.

I'll focus on his fuckups only
-Not giving up chair despite his tenure got over
- Domestic players didn't get salary on time, it took them 1 year to sort out this situation.
- Derailing WIPL
- Last but not the least mishandling issue of Kohli, Dada fucked it up. He and his so called sources were shit too.

Didn't know about some of these issues. He's simply a corrupt individual who replaced another corrupt individual and will get replaced by some other corrupt individual. It's as simple as that.

[Sithara007]

They don't really care about the Olympics since money is what primarily matters to them. Let's face it. The Olympics and similar events aren't money generating tournaments and focus more on prestige.

Don't expect Cricket to become a part of the Olympics anytime soon.

Olympic participation is being done for national pride, and not for monetary benefits. ICC and the BCCI will never understand this, as they are money minded organizations. For the associate nations, cricket becoming an Olympic sport is immensely beneficial, as they will qualify for grants from the government. But for pig-4 nations, these funds are insignificant as they are already very rich.

I'll focus on his fuckups only
-Not giving up chair despite his tenure got over
- Domestic players didn't get salary on time, it took them 1 year to sort out this situation.
- Derailing WIPL
- Last but not the least mishandling issue of Kohli, Dada fucked it up. He and his so called sources were shit too.

Ranji trophy had to be cancelled for the 2020-21 season because of COVID, and there were a lot of issues due to lockdown and other restrictive measures. So I don't want to be too harsh on him. But he disappointed me to some degree. Still, I would prefer him over the mafia members such as Rupa Gurunath and Rajeev Shukla.

[JSRAW]

I'll focus on his fuckups only
-Not giving up chair despite his tenure got over
- Domestic players didn't get salary on time, it took them 1 year to sort out this situation.
- Derailing WIPL
- Last but not the least mishandling issue of Kohli, Dada fucked it up. He and his so called sources were shit too.

Didn't know about some of these issues. He's simply a corrupt individual who replaced another corrupt individual and will get replaced by some other corrupt individual. It's as simple as that.

Not corrupt per se as there are hardly any evidence of corruption and i've never heard such chatters about him anywhere, except promoting Dream XI despite sitting on chair, i've virtually no issue if someone is promoting betting etc but for dada it comes under conflict of interest as he's BCCI president.

Problem with him is he do have self obsessed personality which led to fair amount of controversy throughout all his career, slowly everything is making sense too - Chappell-Ganguly- era.

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Ranji trophy had to be cancelled for the 2020-21 season because of COVID, and there were a lot of issues due to lockdown and other restrictive measures. So I don't want to be too harsh on him. But he disappointed me to some degree. Still, I would prefer him over the mafia members such as Rupa Gurunath and Rajeev Shukla.

No issue with the cancellation but you don't expect delay on salary for whole 1 year, despite printing money from the IPL.

Agree on Rupa and Shukla ji, people like these are termites. Ganguly is definitely better option but with his recent track record he doesn't look suitable for ICC imo.

[tomos81]

If cricket is included in the Olympics, different countries will participate in the Olympics, which will lead to more countries joining cricket As a result of which the spread of cricket will increase all over the world and cricket will become a popular game like football. Hopefully ICC will take this step soon.

They don't really care about the Olympics since money is what primarily matters to them. Let's face it. The Olympics and similar events aren't money generating tournaments and focus more on prestige.

Don't expect Cricket to become a part of the Olympics anytime soon.

I'll focus on his fuckups only
-Not giving up chair despite his tenure got over
- Domestic players didn't get salary on time, it took them 1 year to sort out this situation.
- Derailing WIPL
- Last but not the least mishandling issue of Kohli, Dada fucked it up. He and his so called sources were shit too.

Didn't know about some of these issues. He's simply a corrupt individual who replaced another corrupt individual and will get replaced by some other corrupt individual. It's as simple as that.

But every year we see very good teams and very good players come out of the Olympics. If we notice then we will see that only few countries are participating in the game of cricket There are still many countries which are very good in cricket but due to lack of adequate facilities they are not able to expose their talent to ICC.So if cricket is included in the Olympics then maybe more cricketers will come out and the popularity of cricket will go to another level.

[virasog]

The DLS method is something that I am not a fan of, to be honest. The whole cricketing world has certainly seen some dumb decisions taken because of the DLS method. We have seen a lot of teams losing a winning match because of the DLS method which changes the equation drastically. This DLS method really needs to be revised. Cricket is already losing its popularity quite a bit in my opinion. And things are not going to improve unless ICC starts fixing the problems that Cricket has right now. In this day and age, I think the DLS method is one of them.


Regards

Duke

Do we have any other method instead of DLS to determine the results of rain-delayed or rain affected matches ?
If there is no alternative available then i am afraid we have no option but to keep using this DLS method to determine the result of the matches.
If you say that DLS method decisions are not good but keep in mind they are for both teams and not just applicable to one team.

[TheGreatPython]

But every year we see very good teams and very good players come out of the Olympics. If we notice then we will see that only few countries are participating in the game of cricket There are still many countries which are very good in cricket but due to lack of adequate facilities they are not able to expose their talent to ICC.So if cricket is included in the Olympics then maybe more cricketers will come out and the popularity of cricket will go to another level.

We can talk a very long chat about this issue here but this all could be useless because we are nothing just can give our comments and views with mostly peoples which are in power have their own mind set and will surely go with this all because right now things are changing drastically for many countries and regions which are creating new conflicts and personal links are also very important for this all.

Right now, ICC can't do anything for the promotion of this game because they have no enough authority and sources they are depended on few countries, and they never want to lose their hold which is important for them beyond this game and many other things Olympics could be better, but ICC need to bring some changes in their rules for having their case strong for this.

[Smack That Ace]

Do we have any other method instead of DLS to determine the results of rain-delayed or rain affected matches ?
If there is no alternative available then i am afraid we have no option but to keep using this DLS method to determine the result of the matches.
If you say that DLS method decisions are not good but keep in mind they are for both teams and not just applicable to one team.

Yes, I know that but we have also come a long way and that technology has also improved a lot. So, I believe there should have been another system in place of the DLS system. I agree that we don’t have anything better right now than the DLS system. However, anything that gets old is bound to become obsolete. So, I really hope that there will be something to replace this system. But with the updated system, there will be new problems. And I don’t know if ICC has anything planned about it but if they are looking to try something else from now on, I believe it’s probably going to be too late.


Thank you

duke