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March 15, 2022, 07:18:55 AM
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It's come to a point of annoying that we are discussing shakib and BCB for no reason again and again. I mean enough has been said about both, still everyone coming up with same logic that Bangladesh is not progressing because of corruption in BCB. Can we discuss anything else here? With no offense.
A good point now it's time for change of topic because this all is already sorted out by both stakeholders with now Shakib is going to South Africa and BCB is also having clear all things, so members need to understand and change the point of this talk, but sadly I just check we have no enough to talk because very bore time around cricket with IPL is going to start after few days, and then we can talk some other things and have some enough topics to talk about.

Australia is having some good time in Karachi test with super bowling from their main attacking bowlers they completely demolish Pakistani batting which is now heading for biggest lost in next two days of this test match.

@galambo a fair point and we can now chose to discuss how Vihari and Iyer have cemented their places and effectively ended Pujara and Rahane comeback chances, because I see no way the latter two can return back to the playing 11.

Also Pakistan management will have to answer the tough questions as to how did the team collapse so soon despite having the home advantage, and one reason I can suggest is Pakistan became overconfident after drawing the first match, what other reasons can you’ll think for their collapse.
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It's come to a point of annoying that we are discussing shakib and BCB for no reason again and again. I mean enough has been said about both, still everyone coming up with same logic that Bangladesh is not progressing because of corruption in BCB. Can we discuss anything else here? With no offense.
A good point now it's time for change of topic because this all is already sorted out by both stakeholders with now Shakib is going to South Africa and BCB is also having clear all things, so members need to understand and change the point of this talk, but sadly I just check we have no enough to talk because very bore time around cricket with IPL is going to start after few days, and then we can talk some other things and have some enough topics to talk about.
Australia is having some good time in Karachi test with super bowling from their main attacking bowlers they completely demolish Pakistani batting which is now heading for biggest lost in next two days of this test match.
@galambo a fair point and we can now chose to discuss how Vihari and Iyer have cemented their places and effectively ended Pujara and Rahane comeback chances, because I see no way the latter two can return back to the playing 11.
Also Pakistan management will have to answer the tough questions as to how did the team collapse so soon despite having the home advantage, and one reason I can suggest is Pakistan became overconfident after drawing the first match, what other reasons can you’ll think for their collapse.

^ It was really unbelievable how the Pakistan team collapsed. I actually think that they were under some good amount of criticism after the draw in the first 2 matches. I think they felt like they had to go for the win in this test, they obviously can do that.

But, you know, they really become overconfident too. It was really surreal how their 1st innings collapsed. Now, they need 314 runs on the last day of the test match & they have 8 wickets in hand. Babar Azam really needs to stay at the crease for a long time if they do want to achieve that target and others will also need to play a big role and make big partnerships.

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March 15, 2022, 03:16:05 PM
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AustraliaW won by 7 wickets with 118 ball remaining their last ODI world cup match.AustraliaW played really well their last match.WindiesW didn’t big score so Australian women take it easy win.AustraliaW have to good team and their team combination as well.I hope they will win their next all matces in this world cup match and i hope they will win this ODI world cup. I hope AustraliaW will be champion ICC Women ODI world cup 2022.

That was a really moderate target for a team like Australia to chase. And they are a lot better as a team than west indies. It was quite expected for most people, I would say.
But I really have to talk about Ellyse Perry. A really sensational cricketer. And she really seems to be everywhere in the match. It's really hard to find a player like that. She might be the Shakib Al Hasan of women's cricket.  Smiley

A perfect all-rounder. And she plays a big role in almost everyone in Australia. As she also did in the match against West Indies.



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March 15, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
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Also Pakistan management will have to answer the tough questions as to how did the team collapse so soon despite having the home advantage, and one reason I can suggest is Pakistan became overconfident after drawing the first match, what other reasons can you’ll think for their collapse.

One of the most over confident guy in Pakistan team is imam ul haq. He was selected in team initially purely on nepotism as his uncle Inzamam-ul-Haq was chief selector at that time. After first test imam gave too many statements like he is new Don Bradman of the era. See the result in second test yourself.
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Also Pakistan management will have to answer the tough questions as to how did the team collapse so soon despite having the home advantage, and one reason I can suggest is Pakistan became overconfident after drawing the first match, what other reasons can you’ll think for their collapse.

One of the most over confident guy in Pakistan team is imam ul haq. He was selected in team initially purely on nepotism as his uncle Inzamam-ul-Haq was chief selector at that time. After first test imam gave too many statements like he is new Don Bradman of the era. See the result in second test yourself.
Today is a good day for Pakistan - All rounder of the match went to Muhammad Rizwan. And wow!!  for Babar Azam too. Today the team played well. Interesting match though. Let's take out time to appreciate boys. Forget other stuff. I am so amazed and suprized in what Muhammad Rizwan and Babar Azam did today. Well played boys! 

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Also Pakistan management will have to answer the tough questions as to how did the team collapse so soon despite having the home advantage, and one reason I can suggest is Pakistan became overconfident after drawing the first match, what other reasons can you’ll think for their collapse.

One of the most over confident guy in Pakistan team is imam ul haq. He was selected in team initially purely on nepotism as his uncle Inzamam-ul-Haq was chief selector at that time. After first test imam gave too many statements like he is new Don Bradman of the era. See the result in second test yourself.
Today is a good day for Pakistan - All rounder of the match went to Muhammad Rizwan. And wow!!  for Babar Azam too. Today the team played well. Interesting match though. Let's take out time to appreciate boys. Forget other stuff. I am so amazed and suprized in what Muhammad Rizwan and Babar Azam did today. Well played boys! 
Hands down to those who predicted a draw for Pakistan and Aussie test match. What a treific draw by Pakistan and what a wonderful performance by Muhammad Rizwan and Captain Babar Azam. I really like the personality of Muhammad Rizwan. Can't get my eyes off the TV when Riz is on the field.

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Hands down to those who predicted a draw for Pakistan and Aussie test match. What a treific draw by Pakistan and what a wonderful performance by Muhammad Rizwan and Captain Babar Azam. I really like the personality of Muhammad Rizwan. Can't get my eyes off the TV when Riz is on the field.

Yeah... congrats to Pakistan for saving the match. But the man of the match award should go to the curator who prepared the dead pitch. To be frank, the pitch was not of international quality and it is a shame that the PCB needs to resort to such cheap tactics to get some points in the WTC. If they had prepared a lively pitch and lost the match, then there was some honor in that. At least we could have said that they tried hard. But for this series, from the very first day the Pakistanis went on the defensive. There is no honor even if they win a few points from drawn matches.

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Yeah... congrats to Pakistan for saving the match. But the man of the match award should go to the curator who prepared the dead pitch. To be frank, the pitch was not of international quality and it is a shame that the PCB needs to resort to such cheap tactics to get some points in the WTC. If they had prepared a lively pitch and lost the match, then there was some honor in that. At least we could have said that they tried hard. But for this series, from the very first day the Pakistanis went on the defensive. There is no honor even if they win a few points from drawn matches.

England vs WI test series is also in progress and first match ended in draw and on first day of second test England were 244/3 at stumps. What you will say about curator of that pitches? I have already said in Test match thread and will repeat that both teams are equally strong for each other and its right of country to make pitches according to there own will.
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Hands down to those who predicted a draw for Pakistan and Aussie test match. What a treific draw by Pakistan and what a wonderful performance by Muhammad Rizwan and Captain Babar Azam. I really like the personality of Muhammad Rizwan. Can't get my eyes off the TV when Riz is on the field.

Yeah... congrats to Pakistan for saving the match. But the man of the match award should go to the curator who prepared the dead pitch. To be frank, the pitch was not of international quality and it is a shame that the PCB needs to resort to such cheap tactics to get some points in the WTC. If they had prepared a lively pitch and lost the match, then there was some honor in that. At least we could have said that they tried hard. But for this series, from the very first day the Pakistanis went on the defensive. There is no honor even if they win a few points from drawn matches.

I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.

If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.



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March 17, 2022, 04:04:30 PM
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Hands down to those who predicted a draw for Pakistan and Aussie test match. What a treific draw by Pakistan and what a wonderful performance by Muhammad Rizwan and Captain Babar Azam. I really like the personality of Muhammad Rizwan. Can't get my eyes off the TV when Riz is on the field.

Yeah... congrats to Pakistan for saving the match. But the man of the match award should go to the curator who prepared the dead pitch. To be frank, the pitch was not of international quality and it is a shame that the PCB needs to resort to such cheap tactics to get some points in the WTC. If they had prepared a lively pitch and lost the match, then there was some honor in that. At least we could have said that they tried hard. But for this series, from the very first day the Pakistanis went on the defensive. There is no honor even if they win a few points from drawn matches.

I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.

If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.
We never expected Pakistan's display of heroics at the crease and their patience. You can easily understand how suddenly the situation has changed if you compare the two innings of Pakistan. In the WTC table, Australia and Pakistan both lead the way. If Pakistan had taken advantage of home advantage here, they would have won instead of drawing. Pakistan has tough road trips ahead. Losing next match will see them fall below Sri Lanka.

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March 17, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
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I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.

If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.

You are right that pitch was not upto standard and we see hardly any support for bowlers so far except in Pakistan second innings. Australia is visiting Pakistan after 24 years and Pakistan just don't wanna lose this series to prove there equivalency with Australia team. Poor show by curator.
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March 17, 2022, 06:45:34 PM
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In the WTC table, Australia and Pakistan both lead the way. If Pakistan had taken advantage of home advantage here, they would have won instead of drawing. Pakistan has tough road trips ahead. Losing next match will see them fall below Sri Lanka.
Actually, Australia could have won this one easily, but they messed up big-time due to which Pakistan somehow managed a draw. I never expected them to win even after an amazing second innings.

I feel that the final test will go to Australia since their batting and bowling units have been consistent so far in this series.

You are right that pitch was not upto standard and we see hardly any support for bowlers so far except in Pakistan second innings. Australia is visiting Pakistan after 24 years and Pakistan just don't wanna lose this series to prove there equivalency with Australia team. Poor show by curator.
I agree that the pitches were not in their best state, but the Australian bowlers still managed to take advantage of them in a better manner when compared to the Pakistan bowlers which is praiseworthy.

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March 17, 2022, 08:08:59 PM
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I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.

If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.

You are right that pitch was not upto standard and we see hardly any support for bowlers so far except in Pakistan second innings. Australia is visiting Pakistan after 24 years and Pakistan just don't wanna lose this series to prove there equivalency with Australia team. Poor show by curator.
All is well that ends well. Everyone was in good mood. Especially Waqar Younus, after the match review, he looked so happy and said in last 10 over my heart was pumping on every ball. Draw also means a win for Pakistan. To be honest, Pakistani needs to work more honestly in their respective departments. They are certainly lacking professionalism.

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All is well that ends well. Everyone was in good mood. Especially Waqar Younus, after the match review, he looked so happy and said in last 10 over my heart was pumping on every ball. Draw also means a win for Pakistan. To be honest, Pakistani needs to work more honestly in their respective departments. They are certainly lacking professionalism.
After very long disconnection Pakistan is having good team at home, so obviously they deserve some advantage and favour for these things but now as we are going into third test in Lahore reports are coming curator is already in Lahore from Australia for final preparation, and they already announce they will work in this way as well because now things are normal, and they have few big teams coming in Pakistan for more cricket which mean more revenue and more fans and entertaining cricket which is possible only with supportive conditions and pitches.

With this all still this second test have very good and interesting end as Australia having 170 overs but still not able to win this match which is also having many questions about their ability from few legendary Australian cricketers, hopefully next match will give some good cricket.

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After very long disconnection Pakistan is having good team at home, so obviously they deserve some advantage and favour for these things but now as we are going into third test in Lahore reports are coming curator is already in Lahore from Australia for final preparation, and they already announce they will work in this way as well because now things are normal, and they have few big teams coming in Pakistan for more cricket which mean more revenue and more fans and entertaining cricket which is possible only with supportive conditions and pitches.
Am i reading this correctly, are you telling that the curators from Australia will be preparing the wickets for the series in Pakistan, what kind of rule is that, the home team can take the decision on what pitches they prepare and i am confused why they would allow others to prepare the wickets.

With this all still this second test have very good and interesting end as Australia having 170 overs but still not able to win this match which is also having many questions about their ability from few legendary Australian cricketers, hopefully next match will give some good cricket.
I hope we will see a good wicket that would help the bowlers, we saw plenty of runs scored in both the matches and every batsman who had the patience improved their average, i really hope we see a good wicket in the third Test.
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I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.

If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.

LOL.. I don't know if fans were permitted in to the stadium to watch the match. If they were in case permitted, then in all probability after the first day none of them would had the courage to go back to the match. It was so boring. If the ICC has any balls, they should deduct points from Pakistan in the WTC table for preparing such substandard pitches. Anyway, I am not expecting much from the ICC, as they have failed to act on previous occasions when Bangladesh and Sri Lanka did the same to visiting sides.

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LOL.. I don't know if fans were permitted in to the stadium to watch the match. If they were in case permitted, then in all probability after the first day none of them would had the courage to go back to the match. It was so boring. If the ICC has any balls, they should deduct points from Pakistan in the WTC table for preparing such substandard pitches. Anyway, I am not expecting much from the ICC, as they have failed to act on previous occasions when Bangladesh and Sri Lanka did the same to visiting sides.

The last two days of second test were full of excitement for those who were following the match. I too don't watch the test match very often but did watched last days play. Aussie bowlers really took the criticism away from pitch when they bowl out whole Pakistani team on 148. 2nd Test was very exciting that we have to admit.
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I really thought that the pitch was going to be a lot better than this. I really did not expect to see this after 24 years. I thought that the matches were going to be really competitive. Instead, we just saw the batters playing as they wish, and realistically there is a love result outside a draw in a pitch like this.
If any team becomes aggressive it is certain that they might lose a wicket but if they play safe there is no way that a batsman is going to get out. But I have to give credit to Pakistan for not losing the test match.

LOL.. I don't know if fans were permitted in to the stadium to watch the match. If they were in case permitted, then in all probability after the first day none of them would had the courage to go back to the match. It was so boring. If the ICC has any balls, they should deduct points from Pakistan in the WTC table for preparing such substandard pitches. Anyway, I am not expecting much from the ICC, as they have failed to act on previous occasions when Bangladesh and Sri Lanka did the same to visiting sides.

Excuse me? How can you expect ICC to deduct points for any team exporting the advantage that they have in the home ground? That's what makes the home and away conditions different for every team. I know what Pakistan did was really unexpected and to be honest it was a shameful act but I don't think ICC should deduct points for that.



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March 19, 2022, 05:03:41 AM
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There is development regarding Australia tour to Pakistan as Pak minister says Australia white-ball matches moved from Rawalpindi to Lahore. Political rallies later this month scheduled in Islamabad - the twin city of Rawalpindi - has led to the change of venues
This is very sensitive nature tour and Pakistani administration totally knows this and they are trying there best to make it a successful tour.
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Excuse me? How can you expect ICC to deduct points for any team exporting the advantage that they have in the home ground? That's what makes the home and away conditions different for every team. I know what Pakistan did was really unexpected and to be honest it was a shameful act but I don't think ICC should deduct points for that.

I can understand your logic. But the ICC need to make sure that such type of meaningless matches are avoided in the future. Think about the cricket fans. They take their time and effort to watch five days of play, and in the end they are getting this. And trust me, no one would do this if the WTC points table is not there. And I am afraid that in the future it will get even worse. Test cricket is dying and further incidents such as this one will make that demise even quicker. First of all, lop-sided contests should be avoided. Big-4 should play among themselves more often.

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