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In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.
What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money  Cheesy.

Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.
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What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money  Cheesy.

Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.

The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.

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March 26, 2022, 05:21:04 AM
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Mate, you are going into wrong way right now it's very profitable business without any match fixing as well because now franchise teams have too many options for better profit with having some good performance as well which is possible without fixing any match or involving gambling.
 
Secondly if we have any proof then still no one can do anything because it's all manipulated under supervision of ICC, so we don't need to in more details but just want to clear few things with involvement of television rights and advertising they can take some good profit as we watch recently in PSL even it's small league in comparison for IPL, but all franchise have some good profit from PCB which is very good just because of this now many countries trying to have their own Leagues but still and without any doubt IPL could be leaders in fan base and profit no one can challenge their spot for this.

Can you please come up with stats that how much they invest and how much they earn. Even there is betting on which player will get most money that why we see player like Ishan Kishan getting 15.25 crore, he hardly is player of 5 million INR.
Just do some maths and you will come to know nay be a single fix match can give money more the media rights. Just my few satoshis. Enjoy the IPL.
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An exciting news to share:
For the first time since 2016, Australia will be touring Sri Lanka for an all-format series. During June-July this year, two Tests, five one-day internationals and three Twenty-20 matches will be played. The test matches are expected to be played in Galle and Colombo, while the limited overs matches will be played in Kandy and Colombo. June will be a difficult month for Aussies, especially with the hot weather. All of these games will be important to the team.

Men's T20Is:
               June 7: First T20, Colombo
               June 8: Second T20, Colombo
               June 11: Third T20, Colombo
Men's ODIs:
              June 14: First ODI, Kandy
              June 16: Second ODI, Kandy
              June 19: Third ODI, Colombo
              June 21: Fourth ODI, Colombo
              June 24: Fifth ODI, Colombo
Tests:
        June 29-3: First Test, Galle
        July 8-12: Second Test, Galle
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An exciting news to share:
For the first time since 2016, Australia will be touring Sri Lanka for an all-format series. During June-July this year, two Tests, five one-day internationals and three Twenty-20 matches will be played. The test matches are expected to be played in Galle and Colombo, while the limited overs matches will be played in Kandy and Colombo. June will be a difficult month for Aussies, especially with the hot weather. All of these games will be important to the team.


This is indeed a good new for Sri Lanka cricket and cricket fans in Sri Lanka. This shows that Australians have given up the policy of touring countries of there own choice. Right now they are touring  Pakistan after 24 years and now going to  SL after after 6 years.
Last time Australia was whitewashed by SL in test, can they do that again.
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The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.
lets have a clarity on this aspect, BCCI sells the media rights but the revenue is shared between the teams and it depends upon how many on air time they get which means the more games you play more the revenue and the revenue from media alone per season is 3,269 crore as per the reports.

Then there is brand sponsorship per team, then there is title sponsorship revenue and that is also shared between the teams and if you look at all the franchise teams everyone is in huge profits simply because of the high broadcasting revenue they are getting. So the idea of team owners participating in fixing is just ridiculous when they are earning the profit.
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This need to change, right? What is the point in having 3 test matches (15 days) in every series, when far fewer days are allotted to T20 and ODI cricket? I am OK with one test match per series. The remainder of the time should be given to limited overs cricket, as it is far more popular now when compared to the longer format. If the ICC want to keep test format alive, then the solution is not to have more matches. The real solution is to make test cricket more interesting, by reducing the number of lop-sided matches.

ICC is doing his best to promote T20I by halting entire cricket during that tournament. What else you want ? ICC has only 10 months to complete the entire year of cricket. Test is important and founding block of cricket, it has its own benefits and its necessary for provision of good players for T20.
The rush is unnecessary - there can be an alternative rather than bring some boring sport to audience. These years are years of uncertainty - Nothing seems exciting - there are always dark cloud of confusion looming which make things so uncertain. Hope we get to the normal once again very soon!

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The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.
lets have a clarity on this aspect, BCCI sells the media rights but the revenue is shared between the teams and it depends upon how many on air time they get which means the more games you play more the revenue and the revenue from media alone per season is 3,269 crore as per the reports.

Then there is brand sponsorship per team, then there is title sponsorship revenue and that is also shared between the teams and if you look at all the franchise teams everyone is in huge profits simply because of the high broadcasting revenue they are getting. So the idea of team owners participating in fixing is just ridiculous when they are earning the profit.

But the thing is, a little more money cannot hurt anyone, right? And that seems to be the motto for a lot of people in this world.

Even though it's a lot of money it's still not enough for a lot of people. Any fixing is absolutely wrong, especially it is most unexpected in a league where the money is so much, but the truth is more money attracts more problems..

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March 26, 2022, 05:46:41 PM
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In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.
What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money  Cheesy.

Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.

IPL is a very big league and easily the biggest in cricket. So, there is always going to be a lot of money and with this amount of money, there will always be a lot of controversies. And IPL has always been at the center of controversies.

There has been a lot of controversies over the years around IPL. but that obviously did not do anything In terms of decreasing the popularity of the IPL. if anyone, and obviously it does not matter if he is a player or not, leaks any kind of information outside, should be held accountable for his deeds.

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IPL is a very big league and easily the biggest in cricket. So, there is always going to be a lot of money and with this amount of money, there will always be a lot of controversies. And IPL has always been at the center of controversies.

There has been a lot of controversies over the years around IPL. but that obviously did not do anything In terms of decreasing the popularity of the IPL. if anyone, and obviously it does not matter if he is a player or not, leaks any kind of information outside, should be held accountable for his deeds.
Money is money and right now IPL is world's paying league in all sports so with this we can expect too many things around this without any problem like controversies and good and bad peoples still can approach here for their own sack, so now it's time for having some good and positive changes for new generation players to play fair and good game for the sack of this sport right now we have too many Soccer Leagues and then USA is also having world's best leagues for sports we have very few controversies mean they are preparing players for good and fair games and giving them good money which is enough for their desires so same happening here in IPL but if still anyone does wrong then surely he deserves to pay for his karma.

Right now it's still hard task, but we can expect some good and positive mind-set from BCCI as well because they are main authority behind this all, and they can change things in good way for their own sack and respect of this game and their league.
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so now it's time for having some good and positive changes for new generation players to play fair and good game for the sack of this sport right now we have too many Soccer Leagues and then USA is also having world's best leagues for sports we have very few controversies mean they are preparing players for good and fair games and giving them good money which is enough for their desires so same happening here in IPL but if still anyone does wrong then surely he deserves to pay for his karma.

Right now it's still hard task, but we can expect some good and positive mind-set from BCCI as well because they are main authority behind this all, and they can change things in good way for their own sack and respect of this game and their league.
I am not sure what BCCI can do in a situation even if some of the players try to involve in sports betting and other activities. Even in the NBA there are players like Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley who are known to be notorious in sports gambling and there were evidences that came out later that those players used to gamble in the matches they used to participate. You cannot blame the NBA for that, you need to blame the individual doing that rather than the entire league.
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March 27, 2022, 10:19:38 AM
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I am not sure what BCCI can do in a situation even if some of the players try to involve in sports betting and other activities. Even in the NBA there are players like Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley who are known to be notorious in sports gambling and there were evidences that came out later that those players used to gamble in the matches they used to participate. You cannot blame the NBA for that, you need to blame the individual doing that rather than the entire league.

No board can completely eliminate match or spot fixing they can only play there part in stopping it. The betting and gambling mafia in every sports is strong enough to have roots in regulating bodies also. So far BCCI has done a great job in keeping ipl free from fixing. Not many incidents have been reported so far.
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Money is money and right now IPL is world's paying league in all sports so with this we can expect too many things around this without any problem like controversies and good and bad peoples still can approach here for their own sack, so now it's time for having some good and positive changes for new generation players to play fair and good game for the sack of this sport right now we have too many Soccer Leagues and then USA is also having world's best leagues for sports we have very few controversies mean they are preparing players for good and fair games and giving them good money which is enough for their desires so same happening here in IPL but if still anyone does wrong then surely he deserves to pay for his karma.

Right now it's still hard task, but we can expect some good and positive mind-set from BCCI as well because they are main authority behind this all, and they can change things in good way for their own sack and respect of this game and their league.

When BCCI does something I don't think their priorities respect more than money. But they all understand that they are will be no money if the league is not good enough for people.

I think they do really well to maintain the competitive integrity of the IPL. But I also think that the people of India love drama and in most of the IPL we have seen that happening. That's why IPL is so much popular in the Indian region.

And with this much money, a lot of people are obviously going to try to get their cut out of it. it's not necessary that all of them are going, to be honest, and good human beings.

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When BCCI does something I don't think their priorities respect more than money. But they all understand that they are will be no money if the league is not good enough for people.

I think they do really well to maintain the competitive integrity of the IPL. But I also think that the people of India love drama and in most of the IPL we have seen that happening. That's why IPL is so much popular in the Indian region.

And with this much money, a lot of people are obviously going to try to get their cut out of it. it's not necessary that all of them are going, to be honest, and good human beings.

Well there is no one who can stop IPL not even ICC, as everyone is getting huge money from BCCI. ICC stops its all cricketing activities just for IPL, Fixing is done in a manner that its not caught by ordinary people or media. Every year more money is coming into IPL pool just because it getting more and more popular among the bookies and gamblers.

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The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.
lets have a clarity on this aspect, BCCI sells the media rights but the revenue is shared between the teams and it depends upon how many on air time they get which means the more games you play more the revenue and the revenue from media alone per season is 3,269 crore as per the reports.

Then there is brand sponsorship per team, then there is title sponsorship revenue and that is also shared between the teams and if you look at all the franchise teams everyone is in huge profits simply because of the high broadcasting revenue they are getting. So the idea of team owners participating in fixing is just ridiculous when they are earning the profit.

But the thing is, a little more money cannot hurt anyone, right? And that seems to be the motto for a lot of people in this world.

Even though it's a lot of money it's still not enough for a lot of people. Any fixing is absolutely wrong, especially it is most unexpected in a league where the money is so much, but the truth is more money attracts more problems..

Money game is a dirty game. But then again we cannot deny that there is so much money involved in IPL, one of the reasons IND is a big country and there are many states and lots of team and lots of foreigner player. ICC has also placed halt on many other activities since IPL is happening. Ofcourse it is a big industry. Lots and lots of money!

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Money game is a dirty game. But then again we cannot deny that there is so much money involved in IPL, one of the reasons IND is a big country and there are many states and lots of team and lots of foreigner player. ICC has also placed halt on many other activities since IPL is happening. Ofcourse it is a big industry. Lots and lots of money!
Right now, most of the talk is useless about dirty money or wrong things happening it's all industry and India is not alone having league we have a hundred of leagues across the globe and mostly working very fairly with their system.

Just like we have best leagues system in across Europe and in The USA they are having check and balance system even no one can give them clean chit about fairness but still doing good, so we can expect something from IPL as well if they are generating money with their own tactics it's not wrong because they are spending big money, and they are in complete control someone will catch then surely he is going to face punishment like we have in past for few franchises in IPL.

Even it's not subject, but we have some big gambling involvement in Italian Serie A as well with Juventus were guilty and faced some punishment.

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March 28, 2022, 08:56:42 PM
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Money game is a dirty game. But then again we cannot deny that there is so much money involved in IPL, one of the reasons IND is a big country and there are many states and lots of team and lots of foreigner player. ICC has also placed halt on many other activities since IPL is happening. Ofcourse it is a big industry. Lots and lots of money!
Right now, most of the talk is useless about dirty money or wrong things happening it's all industry and India is not alone having league we have a hundred of leagues across the globe and mostly working very fairly with their system.
Just like we have best leagues system in across Europe and in The USA they are having check and balance system even no one can give them clean chit about fairness but still doing good, so we can expect something from IPL as well if they are generating money with their own tactics it's not wrong because they are spending big money, and they are in complete control someone will catch then surely he is going to face punishment like we have in past for few franchises in IPL.
Even it's not subject, but we have some big gambling involvement in Italian Serie A as well with Juventus were guilty and faced some punishment.

Wherever there is the money of such an amount, there will be people trying to take their cut legally or illegally. And that is always going to have an effect on the league.
But, that doesn't mean the league is going to be stopped. That means those people need to be taken care of according to the law.

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March 30, 2022, 03:21:35 AM
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Money game is a dirty game. But then again we cannot deny that there is so much money involved in IPL, one of the reasons IND is a big country and there are many states and lots of team and lots of foreigner player. ICC has also placed halt on many other activities since IPL is happening. Ofcourse it is a big industry. Lots and lots of money!
Right now, most of the talk is useless about dirty money or wrong things happening it's all industry and India is not alone having league we have a hundred of leagues across the globe and mostly working very fairly with their system.
Just like we have best leagues system in across Europe and in The USA they are having check and balance system even no one can give them clean chit about fairness but still doing good, so we can expect something from IPL as well if they are generating money with their own tactics it's not wrong because they are spending big money, and they are in complete control someone will catch then surely he is going to face punishment like we have in past for few franchises in IPL.
Even it's not subject, but we have some big gambling involvement in Italian Serie A as well with Juventus were guilty and faced some punishment.

Wherever there is the money of such an amount, there will be people trying to take their cut legally or illegally. And that is always going to have an effect on the league.
But, that doesn't mean the league is going to be stopped. That means those people need to be taken care of according to the law.
I believe in some part of the world, or most part of the world, people do not care whether it is legal or illegal, the only thing they care is Money and luxury.
The greed and lust for power and money has affected sports so much and what we see in most of the time booked already or not real.

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March 30, 2022, 10:17:16 AM
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Money game is a dirty game. But then again we cannot deny that there is so much money involved in IPL, one of the reasons IND is a big country and there are many states and lots of team and lots of foreigner player. ICC has also placed halt on many other activities since IPL is happening. Ofcourse it is a big industry. Lots and lots of money!
Right now, most of the talk is useless about dirty money or wrong things happening it's all industry and India is not alone having league we have a hundred of leagues across the globe and mostly working very fairly with their system.
Just like we have best leagues system in across Europe and in The USA they are having check and balance system even no one can give them clean chit about fairness but still doing good, so we can expect something from IPL as well if they are generating money with their own tactics it's not wrong because they are spending big money, and they are in complete control someone will catch then surely he is going to face punishment like we have in past for few franchises in IPL.
Even it's not subject, but we have some big gambling involvement in Italian Serie A as well with Juventus were guilty and faced some punishment.
Wherever there is the money of such an amount, there will be people trying to take their cut legally or illegally. And that is always going to have an effect on the league.
But, that doesn't mean the league is going to be stopped. That means those people need to be taken care of according to the law.
I believe in some part of the world, or most part of the world, people do not care whether it is legal or illegal, the only thing they care is Money and luxury.
The greed and lust for power and money has affected sports so much and what we see in most of the time booked already or not real.

I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.
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I don’t think that it’s fair to assume things like these as there’s zero evidence that can prove black money is involved during IPL games. Furthermore all IPL player’s, officials are under constant scrutiny and if anyone was involved then they would have been exposed by now, therefore till credible evidence pops up I feel that we should not spread rumours about IPL unless they can be proved.

You are right we can't say about match fixing until its proven. There is no one who speaks against IPL not even the icc since everyone gets his fair share. The ROI will be low if you rely only on legitimate sources like sponsorship, TV rights etc. Big parties need big return on there investment and this comes only with some fixing.
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