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June 01, 2025, 06:26:28 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
Ten Hag does not have the insight of who is a quality player and if the player is worth the price tag on him. The set of players that he brought into United can only perform well in an average club because they can't coup with the pressure from a big club like United. I hope Ten Hag doesn't make the same mistakes that he made when he was a coach in United so that he does not continue with bad records.

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June 01, 2025, 07:05:55 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
Ten Hag does not have the insight of who is a quality player and if the player is worth the price tag on him. The set of players that he brought into United can only perform well in an average club because they can't coup with the pressure from a big club like United. I hope Ten Hag doesn't make the same mistakes that he made when he was a coach in United so that he does not continue with bad records.
The players he brings do not face average teams. Premier League players should always be the best because the teams they will face with Manchester United are the biggest teams in the world such as Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Chelsea. Therefore, if a transfer is to be made to Manchester United, the best players should be made. Leagues where average players play well are like the Dutch league and other European leagues. Therefore, the players who come to the Premier League always expect competition at the highest level.











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June 01, 2025, 07:24:07 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
Ten Hag does not have the insight of who is a quality player and if the player is worth the price tag on him. The set of players that he brought into United can only perform well in an average club because they can't coup with the pressure from a big club like United. I hope Ten Hag doesn't make the same mistakes that he made when he was a coach in United so that he does not continue with bad records.
The players he brings do not face average teams. Premier League players should always be the best because the teams they will face with Manchester United are the biggest teams in the world such as Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Aston Villa, Chelsea. Therefore, if a transfer is to be made to Manchester United, the best players should be made. Leagues where average players play well are like the Dutch league and other European leagues. Therefore, the players who come to the Premier League always expect competition at the highest level.

The last team Erik ten Hag managed was Man United. He started off well, but things fell apart pretty quickly.not only did they miss out on the Champions League, but the team also lost its identity. Sure, he picked up a League Cup and an FA cup, but overall, it wasn’t the kind of performance you’d expect from a top level manager.

Now he’s at Leverkusen, a club that, under Xabi Alonso has found its rhythm and built a clear, exciting style of play. Ten Hag isn’t a bad coach, but the big question is whether he can carry that momentum forward or whether his well known stubbornness (which we saw a lot of at United) will hold the team back. If he tries to get by in the bundesliga with a rigid, possession heavy approach, it might not end well for him. Honestly, i think it’s not just the team that needs a reset, he does too.

So yeah, I’m hopeful. but if I’m being honest, not exactly optimistic.
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June 01, 2025, 08:18:15 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.

I think there are no more fans left, ETH's failure at Old Trafford has destroyed his reputation as one of the best managers at that time. And now he is back to the coaching chair after half a season without a club, at bayer leverkusen will be a chance to prove himself as one of the best coaches and regain his reputation, so I hope he is serious enough to handle Bayer leverkusen not just experimenting for his first season in the bundesliga.

and of course the challenge that ETH will face is very difficult because he has to build a team from scratch, but on the other hand this is an opportunity to implement his strategy fully in the next season.
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June 01, 2025, 08:24:41 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.

Let us give Eric Ten Hag some benefits of doubts to see how he’s going to farewell in this team. His performance at Manchester United may be very poor that no team will want to give him another chance but in every condition, you’ll still be better than someone out there and you’ll be their best choice to go for, this is how Eric Ten Hag got here to manage this great team. They have really improved for the past two seasons, let’s wait to see if Eric Ten Hag will be able to maintain that for them, or improve them or even make them worse than they are now. He is a good coach in his own right, I think we should give him some time before we start to judge him, he might be playing better here and not that bad as the case may be presented.

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June 01, 2025, 09:30:44 PM
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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
I think the same way about Erik Ten Hag. I don't think he's very good and I think Bayer Leverkusen deserves better managers. After a few unsuccessful years at Manchester United, I didn't think he would manage a big team in Europe. I thought he would probably go back to Holland, but I can say that Bayer Leverkusen in Germany offered him a golden opportunity. If he can take advantage of this, he can come back to his senses, but if he fails here too, he will probably be a manager who will gradually disappear from the football market.

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June 01, 2025, 09:31:51 PM
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so I hope he is serious enough to handle Bayer leverkusen not just experimenting for his first season in the bundesliga.
I speculate that Ten Hag will give his all at the start of the season when he first takes charge of Leverkusen. After that, in the following season, he will likely experiment again, as he did at Manchester United, and failure may be repeated. However, this is just speculation, and there is no guarantee that it will happen. Ten Hag certainly must realize that he is in a team with small finances. Therefore, he must be more careful when bringing in new players.

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June 01, 2025, 11:54:55 PM
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Oh yeah anyway, related to Ten Hag's development as Leverkusen New coach, Ten Hag wants to bring Man United's star players to Leverkusen. Finally he said it directly and thanked Leverkusen, the fans, and also all things in Leverkusen.
Bringing in players from Manchester United could still be an option but of course what Ten Hag has to pay attention to now is the fit between the player and the club unlike before where he only focuses on players he thinks fit his preferences which could backfire. He must pay more attention from all sides whether the player will fit or not with the attacking scheme and of course the chemistry of the players later.
At least this time they really get fresh funds from some of their top players who are indeed sold at quite fantastic prices. However, the negative side is that they do have to lose their top key payers, and this is a big challenge for Ten Hag next.

The options of Antony and Garnacho are actually not bad, they are talented players. It remains to be seen how Ten Hag's agreement will optimize it again

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For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
Since there are few players to leave the team, it surely will be a difficult situation for Leverkusen. Florian Wirtz is rumored to move to Liverpool, he will follow Jeremie Frimpong. Jonathan Tah moved to Bayern Munich. And it is not impossible that other players will also leave the team. This is a big challenge for Erick Ten Hag because he must be able to sign new players who can replace the role of those key players.

To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
Ten Hag manages a different team, the target will be also different. Also, the level competition in Bundesliga isn't the same as EPL. So, I think Ten Hag is possible to succeed with Leverkusen although it requires a better squad. The first thing that Ten Hag needs to do is to rebuild the squad. If he can sign some good players, we can expect that he can do better job in Leverkusen. TBH, I really hope Ten Hag won't repeat the same mistake that he ever did in Man United.


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Ten Hag manages a different team, the target will be also different. Also, the level competition in Bundesliga isn't the same as EPL. So, I think Ten Hag is possible to succeed with Leverkusen although it requires a better squad. The first thing that Ten Hag needs to do is to rebuild the squad. If he can sign some good players, we can expect that he can do better job in Leverkusen. TBH, I really hope Ten Hag won't repeat the same mistake that he ever did in Man United.

Manchester United and Leverkusen's squads are not the same. Manchester united's squad had  a lot of star players. Ten Hag had no previous experience in managing such a squad. This was one of the reasons for Ten Hag's failure. However, on Ten hag's advice, Manchester United bought  Hojlund and ANtony at a huge cost. Manchester United faced a huge loss. Ten Hag is definitely to blame for this.

Leverkusen's squad is not very strong . But the players are hardworking. They have the ability to perform well. Besides, I don't think leverkusen will fight for the title next season. The pressure on Ten Hag is low. If they can stay in the top 4  of the table, the Leverkusen management will probably be  happy.

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Heidenheim stayed in the league by the way after beating Elversberg 2-1 around a week ago. I thought BTTS would be okay for it but didn't bet on it. If I did, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't win.  Grin

Anyways, now the teams have promoted to the Bundesliga are:

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It is nice to see Hamburg back here. They relegated in the 17/18 season. They have been trying to come back ever since. They failed a couple of times during promotion playoffs.

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June 02, 2025, 10:52:26 AM
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For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.

To be honest, I have no confidence in Ten Hag as Leverkusen manager next season since I don't think he's a good manager, despite winning two trophies in his previous team. Though Manchester United management was impressed by the two titles he won in two seasons and extended his contract, he was unable to continue because he failed to meet the team expectations. After all, everyone expected him to finish in the top spot. I'm not sure about Ten Hag time at Ajax, perhaps the Manchester United project was challenging for him.

However, many players are leaving Leverkusen before the next season, including Jonathan Tah, who left as a free agent, Frimpong, who joined Liverpool, and Florian Wirtz, their key player, who will be difficult to replace because Ten Hag lacked the experience to bring top players to the team because all of the players he signed while at Manchester United didn't work.

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However, many players are leaving Leverkusen before the next season, including Jonathan Tah, who left as a free agent, Frimpong, who joined Liverpool, and Florian Wirtz, their key player, who will be difficult to replace because Ten Hag lacked the experience to bring top players to the team because all of the players he signed while at Manchester United didn't work.
Thats what i already have written and are my opinion too , but Ten Hag was good at Ajax times.
And te next thing is that Leverkusen is a different team Manchester United and its possible that young and other players getting the chance to shine.
But it will be very hard for Leverkusen to compensate all of the players who left Leverkusen.
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Bringing in players from Manchester United could still be an option but of course what Ten Hag has to pay attention to now is the fit between the player and the club unlike before where he only focuses on players he thinks fit his preferences which could backfire. He must pay more attention from all sides whether the player will fit or not with the attacking scheme and of course the chemistry of the players later.
At least this time they really get fresh funds from some of their top players who are indeed sold at quite fantastic prices. However, the negative side is that they do have to lose their top key payers, and this is a big challenge for Ten Hag next.

The options of Antony and Garnacho are actually not bad, they are talented players. It remains to be seen how Ten Hag's agreement will optimize it again
Overall, Leverkusen can be said will be facing a transition period next season, and not only Ten Hag who needs time to adapt, the players also have to rebuild the chemistry between them.
Meanwhile, I don't know the reason why Ten Hag is too obsessed with recruiting his former players, even though the players he is targeting look good, but it is not certain that these players will be able to perform according to expectations.
If Leverkusen management wants to recruit Antony and Garnacho, they will probably spend all the profits they get from the sale of Florian Wirtz. Antony will probably choose to stay with Real Betis.

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Thats what i already have written and are my opinion too , but Ten Hag was good at Ajax times.
And te next thing is that Leverkusen is a different team Manchester United and its possible that young and other players getting the chance to shine.
But it will be very hard for Leverkusen to compensate all of the players who left Leverkusen.

The situation of Ajax and Leverkusen is very similar. Both teams have talented players in their squads. But there are no star players. Ten Hag was quite good with Ajax. And that is why the Leverkusen management is keen to rely on Ten Hag. Also, Leverkusen is selling their best player in their squad. It is very unlikely that Leverkusen will fight for the title next season. If they want to fight for the title, Leverkusen's squad will have to be strengthened even more. Big funds are needed. The Leverkusen management will not be interested in spending large amounts on player purchases.

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June 02, 2025, 05:47:31 PM
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Thats what i already have written and are my opinion too , but Ten Hag was good at Ajax times.
And te next thing is that Leverkusen is a different team Manchester United and its possible that young and other players getting the chance to shine.
But it will be very hard for Leverkusen to compensate all of the players who left Leverkusen.

The situation of Ajax and Leverkusen is very similar. Both teams have talented players in their squads. But there are no star players. Ten Hag was quite good with Ajax. And that is why the Leverkusen management is keen to rely on Ten Hag. Also, Leverkusen is selling their best player in their squad. It is very unlikely that Leverkusen will fight for the title next season. If they want to fight for the title, Leverkusen's squad will have to be strengthened even more. Big funds are needed. The Leverkusen management will not be interested in spending large amounts on player purchases.

The situation is quite similar, but this is his first season in the Bundesliga, he has never coached a team that plays in the Bundesliga before. So it is natural that people are quite doubtful about ETH being able to handle Bayer Leverkusen in his first season. Facing next season, maybe we will see a lot of changes in the Bayer Leverkusen squad, but I doubt the Bayer Leverkusen owner will spend a lot of money to bring in new players.

And I agree that next season it is impossible for Bayer Leverkusen to perform better than this season, but I just hope they can always compete at the top of the standings even though they don't secure the championship trophy.

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Leverkusen will have a harder test than ever. I hope Erik Ten Hag does not make the mistakes he made at Manchester United.
For sure will it be very hard for Leverkusen next season with all that players that already left , specially Florian Wirtz can be not be replaced.
To be honest i am not really a fan of Erik Ten Hag and maybe its possible that we will see the same as it was in Manchester.
Fingers crossed that this will be not happen and also that they get a few new good players into the team.
I think the same way about Erik Ten Hag. I don't think he's very good and I think Bayer Leverkusen deserves better managers. After a few unsuccessful years at Manchester United, I didn't think he would manage a big team in Europe. I thought he would probably go back to Holland, but I can say that Bayer Leverkusen in Germany offered him a golden opportunity. If he can take advantage of this, he can come back to his senses, but if he fails here too, he will probably be a manager who will gradually disappear from the football market.
Although Xabi Alanso's departure is very painful, I believe Erik will give his best for Leverkusen, especially in the Bundesliga, most Dutch coaches are very good at adapting. Maybe Erik Ten will be the next successful Dutch coach in Germany and can make Leverkusen a dark horse in the Bundesliga, DFB Pokal, and Champions League.

Leverkusen's management choice is not entirely considered wrong, because before Erik Ten Hag came to Man United he was a potential coach, it's just that we all know that coaching Man United which is full of pressure is not easy, there he has extraordinary pressure but unlike Leverkusen he clearly doesn't have much pressure.

So I think Erik Ten Hag will succeed in Leverkusen, because it is very different when coaching Man United. Never mind the coach, Man United players when playing at Man United are bad when they move to another club their performance improves because playing at Man United is full of pressure as well as the coach. But I don't expect more from Erik Ten Hag with Leverkusen, he can compete closely with Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga next season, that's good for his first season.

Erik Ten Hag with Man United, even though his team was not so strong and under pressure, he managed to give two trophies to Man United. This can also be said to be a success. at least he had that mentality when he was in the final match.

 
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Overall, Leverkusen can be said will be facing a transition period next season, and not only Ten Hag who needs time to adapt, the players also have to rebuild the chemistry between them.
Meanwhile, I don't know the reason why Ten Hag is too obsessed with recruiting his former players, even though the players he is targeting look good, but it is not certain that these players will be able to perform according to expectations.
If Leverkusen management wants to recruit Antony and Garnacho, they will probably spend all the profits they get from the sale of Florian Wirtz. Antony will probably choose to stay with Real Betis.
True, Bayern Leverkusen have prepare good transition for next season after leaving by their manager Xabi Alonso and several top players who leave Leverkusen for joining with other top teams. For awhile, Jonathan Tah have reached agreement deal for joining with Bayern Munich and Jeremie Frimpong have deal for joining Liverpool next season, both players are important part for Leverkusen in this season and crucial player won Bundesliga tittle last two season. Transition moment still not stop for Leverkusen after having rumor Florian Wirtz linked with Liverpool maybe will leave Leverkusen around few days or weeks later.

As new manager, its quite heavy work for Erik ten Hag how to build up again chemistry with several new player recruitment indeed so far Bayern Leverkusen still not announce yet, looking for several main player leaving I think Leverkusen will sign around two until three player for next season.

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June 02, 2025, 08:09:55 PM
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Overall, Leverkusen can be said will be facing a transition period next season, and not only Ten Hag who needs time to adapt, the players also have to rebuild the chemistry between them.
Meanwhile, I don't know the reason why Ten Hag is too obsessed with recruiting his former players, even though the players he is targeting look good, but it is not certain that these players will be able to perform according to expectations.
If Leverkusen management wants to recruit Antony and Garnacho, they will probably spend all the profits they get from the sale of Florian Wirtz. Antony will probably choose to stay with Real Betis.
True, Bayern Leverkusen have prepare good transition for next season after leaving by their manager Xabi Alonso and several top players who leave Leverkusen for joining with other top teams. For awhile, Jonathan Tah have reached agreement deal for joining with Bayern Munich and Jeremie Frimpong have deal for joining Liverpool next season, both players are important part for Leverkusen in this season and crucial player won Bundesliga tittle last two season. Transition moment still not stop for Leverkusen after having rumor Florian Wirtz linked with Liverpool maybe will leave Leverkusen around few days or weeks later.

As new manager, its quite heavy work for Erik ten Hag how to build up again chemistry with several new player recruitment indeed so far Bayern Leverkusen still not announce yet, looking for several main player leaving I think Leverkusen will sign around two until three player for next season.
Leverkusen will like face a difficult time come next season because they are in a different phase of their club because a new coach will be coming to the team which means that a different style of play which the players will follow and the truth is that it's not easy for players to follow and master the playing pattern of new coaches because it will take a while before the players will adopt to the style of play of the new coach.


The truth is it will not be easy for the new coach to come and fill up what Alonso has done in Leverkusen because he has created a record that will be difficult to break


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June 02, 2025, 08:19:44 PM
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The truth is it will not be easy for the new coach to come and fill up what Alonso has done in Leverkusen because he has created a record that will be difficult to break

Leverkusen won the title after going undefeated for a whole season. It was an incredible result. Xabi Alonso's record is impossible to break. Because Leverkusen's squad is not that strong. It is unlikely that Leverkusen will build a very strong squad in the future. Leverkusen's squad is getting weaker day by day.

Leverkusen's new coach Ten Hag. Ten Hag was a complete failure with Manchester United. However, since the Bundesliga is not as competitive as the Premier League, there is a possibility of ten Hag succeeding here. Ten Hag was successful with Ajax. Leverkusen fans will have their hopes on ten Hag. However, if the squad is not strengthened, Leverkusen will not be able to compete for the Bundesliga title.


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