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Will there be a mining pool right from the start of the coin?

I'm not certain, supernova said they will probably be providing one.

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1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
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DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.
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1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
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DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?

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Install deps and make gexp

Code:
apt-get install git binutils bison gcc make libgmp3-dev
bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)
go install go1.4
gvm use go1.4 [--default]
git clone -b develop http://www.github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse.git 
cd go-expanse
make gexp

From here you start the client with the genesis file

Code:
build/bin/gexp --genesis test_genesis.json

ctrc+c out then create your first account

Code:
build/bin/gexp account new

Then start it up with a bootnode

Code:
./gexp --bootnodes "enode://4055ec69e53df4bfecb95e3b65c28e4f2a1145a3bdc4d85d077b552248cf159951afd649f044783bebf48b902fbc0e96978c76236fd4ab3d5ef7d95d72b84ee5@[::]:42786" --rpc console 2>exp.log

Check and see if you are connected to any nodes

Code:
admin.peers
turn on mining

Code:
miner.start()
miner.stop()
Once you mine a few blocks, check your balance like this

Code:
web3.fromWei(exp.getBalance(exp.coinbase))

If you are having trouble finding nodes give it a second and then follow the guide below

https://github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse/wiki/Connecting-to-the-network

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No windows builds  Huh
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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

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September 10, 2015, 02:19:38 PM
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1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?
Hmm... all who wants to trade altcoins need to make his own clone? Pls Do not change subject of our discuss.
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September 10, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
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1) Expanse isnt a "coin" its a tokenized dapp platform
2) You keep missing the point. No central authority is holding it. You, if you choose to participate in the network, will be one of many holding it and actively deciding how it gets spent.

You guys continue to dodge the questions about the 1.1 million coins you will have in your hands ready to dump on first exchange. Put your money where your mouth is. Delete the 1.1 million part you have up front, entirely. Go with 100% contract only community vote released over time fund and this might not be DOA.
+1
DEV`s you are answer/talking only about 90% of premine. Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months, and no more questions to you.

That is reasonable, but I have already talked about every possible option like that with the team for over a month now, and we can't develop this to the level we plan on unless we are working on it full time. Which means we can't be working full time elsewhere, and we need some funding to add value to the project.

No matter what some people won't be happy, and some even think with a couple GPUs we should mine along with everyone else and work for a year, or years, for nothing, which is impossible for us and most anyone.

If you have any concerns, just wait, but we are sticking with the plan and we think it will speak for itself over time.



Don't mislead people, you're just make another clone coin. You not making something NEW or something unique.
Your work that is your investment in coin and this is the risk of getting nothing if you make "bad work". Why would you want to all risks fell on the shoulders of investors and miners? Take your 1.1M coins in smart contract for 2-3 months and if you make "good job" you make good profit from premine.

The source is open, why dont you make your own with qualities that fit your needs?
Hmm... all who wants to trade altcoins need to make his own clone? Pls Do not change subject of our discuss.

I'm merely saying that if you want a crypto that fits your agenda then you should probably learn to make your own.

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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

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September 10, 2015, 03:05:13 PM
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The fact that the development team compares this coin and it's massive premine to Ethereum and somehow thinks that people are going to swallow 11 million coin premine based on 'It's just like Ethereum they also premined' (But without the team, vision, 20k BTC ICO and corporate projects) is a joke. What part of 11 MILLION premine killing the coin don't you get? No one cares if it's 'community owned', it's 100% unnecessary, and the 'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.

With the 4x longer block time than Ether, and literally NO word on what makes this coin 'better for your purposes' than Ether a Premine over 100k is a complete no-go for most people. Look at what happened to Shift (the first Ether copy-paste) and block-times, price and premine. Yeah, it's pretty much dead already because there is NO profit to be made from mining with 250k coins hanging in the air and price tanking.

TLDR: 'Fairly distributed' , 11 million coin premine. ROTFL!
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blockchains with fast confirmation times currently suffer from reduced security due to a high stale rate - because blocks take a certain time to propagate through the network, if miner A mines a block and then miner B happens to mine another block before miner A's block propagates to B, miner B's block will end up wasted and will not contribute to network security.

That is taken from Ethereums own whitepaper.

They claim that their modified GHOST implementation solves the problem, which it does for the most part, but there is still a huge orphan rate that is drastically lowered by the incredibly simple solution of making blocks take a little longer. We also increased the amount of GAS a DAPP can use which will also benefit from a slightly longer block time.

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'But we all work full time on this' is just laughable as an excuse for giving yourself free money.


What else is crypto but flipping on your miners and minting yourself free money? But the fact is coins would not be worth anything in the first place without the work of developers giving value to a project.
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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

It's been couple of hours. Did you by any chance build some win executable?
Do you plan to have windows binary available on official launch?
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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.

It's been couple of hours. Did you by any chance build some win executable?
Do you plan to have windows binary available on official launch?

official launch will have binaries. I'm working on setting up cross compiling atm.

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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.


I've got to the end and I'm not finding a git checkout develop && godep go install under the c:\godev\......\gexp, or do I need to run go git in command?


I've found the checkout and develop but what's wit the && godep, godep is not found Maybe, try to reword the last line to me? I'm also helping my daughter, whom is homeschooled, out with this as a project. She is running everything while I check her work. So far, everything has bee a breeze. Thank you.

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No windows builds  Huh

Not right this second, ill compile one later.

Install Git from http://git-scm.com/downloads

Install Golang from https://storage.googleapis.com/golang/go1.4.2.windows-amd64.msi

Install winbuilds from http://win-builds.org/1.5.0/win-builds-1.5.0.exe to c:\winbuilds

Run win builds here. It's safe to remove big dependencies like QT and GTK which aren't needed. An exact list of dependencies should be determined

Setup environment paths

Add GOROOT pointed to c:\go and GOPATH to c:\godev (you are free to pick these paths).

Set PATH to %PATH%;%GOROOT%\bin;%GOPATH%\bin;c:\winbuilds\bin

Open a terminal and install godep first: go get -u github.com/tools/godep

Open a terminal and download go-expanse go get -d -u github.com/expanse-project/go-expanse

Try building expanse with go dep, navigate to c:\godev\src\github.com\expanse-project\go-expanse\cmd\gexp and run git checkout develop && godep go install

If you want to build from an other branch bypass godep go install for go install and checkout the dependencies manually.


I've got to the end and I'm not finding a git checkout develop && godep go install under the c:\godev\......\gexp, or do I need to run go git in command?


I've found the checkout and develop but what's wit the && godep, godep is not found Maybe, try to reword the last line to me? I'm also helping my daughter, whom is homeschooled, out with this as a project. She is running everything while I check her work. So far, everything has bee a breeze. Thank you.

give me a little while, watching my kids while my wife runs to the store, ill work it out and see what I come up with. Its amazing though you got your daughter doing this! Thats exactly what we need in crypto. +9001 internets for that.

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No worries, she is on Khan Academy doing math currently. Just let us know when you get around to it.


I wouldn't have it any other way...

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No worries, she is on Khan Academy doing math currently. Just let us know when you get around to it.


I wouldn't have it any other way...

Khan academy and services like it are the future. I love how they have everything gamified.

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After "bash < <(curl -s -S -L https://raw.githubusercontent.com/moovweb/gvm/master/binscripts/gvm-installer)", I was asked to re-start the terminal, which I did; but then, when I start a new Terminal, I got this in the first line: "n[[: command not found", then the bash prompt.

And when I tried to run "go install go1.4", I got this message:

can't load package: package go1.4: cannot find package "go1.4" in any of:
   /usr/lib/go/src/pkg/go1.4 (from $GOROOT)
   ($GOPATH not set)

I'm using Ubuntu 15.04, thanks in advance

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