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November 26, 2015, 06:28:50 PM |
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100% is an illusion
I disagree. One-time pad seeded with message digest gives 100% unbreakable encryption.
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November 26, 2015, 06:56:15 PM |
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100% is an illusion
I disagree. One-time pad seeded with message digest gives 100% unbreakable encryption. disagree, you can't exclude an alien/meta-math come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
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November 26, 2015, 07:15:49 PM |
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Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have : - encrypted email - encrypted message - storage - nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?
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November 26, 2015, 07:17:41 PM |
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Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have : - encrypted email - encrypted message - storage - nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?
No need to just focus on the decentral and encrypted nature, pay per second streaming is another really good potential
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November 26, 2015, 07:23:34 PM |
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Alright, let's get back to brainstorming. So far we have : - encrypted email - encrypted message - storage - nano payment
What about decentralized social networking ? Decentralized identity ?
Synereo?
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November 26, 2015, 07:41:15 PM |
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disagree, you can't exclude an alien/meta-math come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal.
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November 26, 2015, 07:43:37 PM |
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disagree, you can't exclude an alien/meta-math come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.
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November 26, 2015, 07:49:12 PM |
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The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.
I'm not going to start a religious dispute now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2015, 07:55:33 PM |
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The universe is not ruled (only) by Maths. We would know everything otherwise.
I'm not going to start a religious dispute now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 26, 2015, 08:01:35 PM |
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This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2015, 08:01:58 PM |
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disagree, you can't exclude an alien/meta-math come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. no aliens needed here. but it is always good we have at least 'something' we can rely on even if it's just a snapshot i guess. meanwhile quantum eraser experiments tells us we shouldn't rely to much on this so i will put this phrase into the 'hope dies last' box.
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November 26, 2015, 08:03:01 PM |
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Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We were talking about 100% in some variant of math. In that math it's exactly 100%. If you use another math then "100%" claim doesn't make sense in it.
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November 26, 2015, 08:14:14 PM |
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This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) harhar, i guess your hackles lining up atm if you read all this crypto/meta nonsense and you are right. IOTA has promising capabilities, i recommend to shift your app/usage ideas a little into the commercial, mass market direction, ofc only if you intend to reach out for this segment. i think also that storage related apps and e-governing/prediction market as tobo mentioned are great areas but this needs more informations about IOTAs storage handling/strategies.
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November 26, 2015, 09:35:30 PM |
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Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.
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November 26, 2015, 10:31:16 PM |
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Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.
480x854 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 26, 2015, 11:32:08 PM |
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Math may be universal but without a unified theory we do not have the correct math. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We were talking about 100% in some variant of math. In that math it's exactly 100%. If you use another math then "100%" claim doesn't make sense in it. Ahh, there you go bringing "Context" into the equation. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 27, 2015, 06:43:37 AM |
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This will quickly descend into a debate of Platonism vs its alternatives. If you are a strong platonist supporter I recommend 'Our Mathematical Universe' (2014) by Max Tegmark. Gets really trippy really fast. But let's stay on topic of IOTA in here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.memecdn.com%2Fshut-up-and-take-my-money_o_202409.jpg&t=663&c=5HUYYn8pNf1KHw) ...back to topic. Screen resolution Wiko Rainbow (Chinese No Name android phone): 720 x 1280
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November 27, 2015, 06:57:30 AM |
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disagree, you can't exclude an alien/meta-math come in existence anytime, able to break even your 'current here and now knowledge level'. even with close to zero probability you can't give a serious 100% this happen never guarantee. here you have your 100% again.
I doubt aliens can hack anything that is mathematically proven to be 100% secure. Math is universal. Math is universal, that is science related, but the reality is physical engineering, which will be improved a lot by Physics. Say something beyond Quantum, that will break the present Math. It is not 100%, but greater than 0% for sure. So I doubt 100% in the end. We can just say 100% at present and not 100% universal.
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November 27, 2015, 06:59:56 AM |
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Those who use Android, post your screen resolution, please.
I have two phones. 1920*1080 1280*720
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November 27, 2015, 10:47:45 PM |
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Thanks, keep em coming!
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