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I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment.
The NBA will survive. With these expected losses, I'm sure they have lots of plans currently discussing their tables even prior to the start of the bubble. Lots of things now considered after the first bubble run. There is no such thing for me as there are now fewer fans who enjoy the game. It's just that, the access was limited and not all are enthusiasts of subscribing to NBA games. Also, they add a virtual audience which is a big step. I'm hoping they can add another special feature that will bring profit to them no matter how big or small is. That virtual audience setup is one good example. Believed me, no one expects that kind of setup. Maybe there are even added features next season. If the NBA will be shutdown due to financial problems, it can be considered a big disaster. It will result in the worst domino effect that is economically related. That's why I believed that won't happen. All will depend if this pandemic will continue for couple of years or the vaccine wont be available soon where it can really give out that possibility for this entire league would be no more yet frankly speaking even though they are successful with recent season even on a bubble state but doesnt mean that it will be sustainable if it would continue for more years to come. They might able to held it up for sometime but it wont really be too long. Yes, its a big league but we know that revenue is what makes it alive. They are looking beyond the pandemic so I wouldn't say they are going to depend on it in the long run. Other sports are have adjusted already maybe they also suffer a loss due to it, but it doesn't mean they can't do anything or won't do anything to keep NBA and other sports alive. Regardless if vaccine will be available in the next 1-2 years, NBA will come up with something that will make it sustainable and at least minimise some losses until this situation settled down.
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October 25, 2020, 10:06:10 PM |
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... there is no direct source that shows Lakers are interested in giving up too much for him or pay him too much.
That's why that speculation is just one of the rumors that others are following. We can't expect much of official reports today since off-season just started. All we can see is the player's feedback, the author's view, etc on a certain rumor. Maybe we can see some progress either next month or late activities a few weeks before the start of the NBA 2020-21 season. As for Chris Paul to Lakers, it's not that really alarming for me or can be considered as domination as it will cost them releasing good role players. Obviously, other teams should do their best too in terms of improving their roster this off-season.
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October 25, 2020, 10:16:13 PM |
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Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.
Couldn't agree more. Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best. But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.
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October 25, 2020, 10:23:25 PM |
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Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.
Couldn't agree more. Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best. But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored. It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time.
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October 25, 2020, 10:38:36 PM |
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Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.
Couldn't agree more. Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best. But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored. It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time. Yeah. He's already stuck to our minds that he's the GOAT in NBA or in the sports of basketball. Nothing's gonna beat him as the GOAT and there's more for Lebron before he retires. He could beat MJ in certain achievements but GOAT will always be the GOAT and it's just one guy or it depends on the standards of the majority of fans.
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October 25, 2020, 10:52:53 PM |
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Michael Jordan won 6 championships with several Hall of Famers. Scottie Pippen, Rodman and had other stellar players such as Kukoc, Paxson, Kerr, Grant, Cartwright, etc. He won every single one of those with Pippen too. I'm not saying MJ isn't the better player, because he is, but Lebron's championships were impressive. Let's not act like MJ didn't have help is all I'm saying.
Couldn't agree more. Every champ has their tandem and helps from other veterans and good players. But if we are going to evaluate each of their individual performances still MJ is the best. But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored. It was already in the heart and mind of the people, so even if we have a new player that is better than him, we still think that MJ is the best or the GOAT in the NBA, just like in boxing, we have Muhammad Ali which is the best though some think Manny Pacquioa is the greatest fighter of all time. Yeah. He's already stuck to our minds that he's the GOAT in NBA or in the sports of basketball. Nothing's gonna beat him as the GOAT and there's more for Lebron before he retires. He could beat MJ in certain achievements but GOAT will always be the GOAT and it's just one guy or it depends on the standards of the majority of fans. I don't know if during the era of MJ he has some haters as it seemed like everyone likes him, nowadays, we have haters, especially Lebron James haters that they could not see how great he is and special as a player, man is proving many times by winning championship in different teams. Did MJ done that in his career?
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October 25, 2020, 11:22:34 PM |
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But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.
Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements.
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October 25, 2020, 11:47:29 PM |
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But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.
Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements. Who can ignore the greatness made by LeBron? For sure he will bet that records since for the last season he still prove that he still the king and LeBron spend million of dollars to make his body condition in every season so it's not a surprise and it's expected that he will surpass that record in 2-3 seasons, but hopefully he will not retire in that speculated season since for sure NBA will be boring without the king's presence.
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October 25, 2020, 11:58:23 PM |
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But Lebron's performances and achievements can't ever be ignored.
Lebron will have a great chance to beat the NBA all-time points record in the next 2-3 seasons if he continues to play at the same level without serious injuries. So, nobody won't be going to ignore Lebron's achievements. Who can ignore the greatness made by LeBron? For sure he will bet that records since for the last season he still prove that he still the king and LeBron spend million of dollars to make his body condition in every season so it's not a surprise and it's expected that he will surpass that record in 2-3 seasons, but hopefully he will not retire in that speculated season since for sure NBA will be boring without the king's presence. If Kobe did not retire until he was really not the same guy, I don't think Lebron would do that. He was playing his best season and bring a championship to the Lakers, I don't think deciding to retire is a good idea when he loves basketball so much. Lebron is on a mission, he take care of his body so he can play more NBA seasons and break all the stats in the top, and by playing more that gave him more opportunity to make a history like he already did in this season. So what more to come when he still plays, he never gets old you know. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 26, 2020, 02:12:34 AM |
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The pandemic has really hurt the revenue of the NBA. https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259994/NBA-Missed-Revenue-Projections-By-" NBA Missed Revenue Projections By $1.5 Billion" The NBA missed its revenue projections this season by $1.5 billion, sources told Tim Reynolds of The Associated Press.
The losses were due to a combination of the shutdown due to the pandemic, the cancellation of 171 regular-season games, completing the season without fans, and losing $200 million in a rift with the Chinese government.
There have been no decisions on finalizing the start of next season's schedule, though beginning the season in December as opposed to January or later could generate the league an extra $500 million in revenue.
The NBA is currently targeting a December 22nd start date, with a 72-game season. I'm wondering what's their projection in the coming season, despite this news, I'm hoping that NBA will survive and continue to provide us entertainment. I honestly think the NBA should make amends with China at this point if only to regain their lost Chinese revenue stream, there's no point in continuing this stance they had about this "Free Hong Kong" affair said by the Rockets GM now that the protests mostly died out, they should find a way to apologize/walk back to China without mentioning Hong Kong by name as the fury that'll come from US politicians from doing that will block the chances of that working. It'll probably be in the form of "we'll give you special favors if you let us broadcast preseason games in your country". I don't know how the NBA would accomplish that in detail. At pandemic levels, an extra $200 million of revenue is a big deal, especially considering how the NBA is trying to target $500 million for the immediate term. It's not that just the NBA is losing here, China market as well could have accumulate billions in revenue lost, so both sides are suffering as well. And since Morey is gone, (the centre of this controversy), maybe it's time to heal the wounds. And we have one Chinese co-owner of an NBA team so there's so I think NBA will be back in China and maybe talks have been going around without our knowledge. There are people that can pull this off, I believed, and with the stakes so high specially with the pandemic around, maybe, just maybe we can see NBA games televised in China next season.
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October 26, 2020, 05:42:45 AM |
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About the CP3 trade. This could be the reason for it not to happen. Or let us just say a lower percentage for it to come true even with James capability to push it through. NBA rules state that, when trading for players that make as much money as Paul does, the acquiring team must send at least 80 percent of that salary back in the deal. Paul is set to make $41,358,814 next season, according to Spotrac. That means that the Lakers would need to send out $33,087,051. That is where this gets tough, because at present, the Lakers don't have that much salary on their books to trade. They currently have six players under contract for next season: LeBron James, Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma, Quinn Cook, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. They are awaiting official word on five player options as well: Anthony Davis, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Rajon Rondo are expected to opt-out, and are therefore untradeable, while Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee are expected to opt-in. That would make them tradeable. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-how-a-dec-22-start-date-for-new-nba-season-could-prevent-possible-lakers-deal/It's a question of money. Management would not risk so many good players to be released for him. No offense. Then, if they did take CP3, how much space will be left to fill the holes?
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October 26, 2020, 11:04:34 AM |
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About the CP3 trade. This could be the reason for it not to happen. Or let us just say a lower percentage for it to come true even with James capability to push it through. NBA rules state that, when trading for players that make as much money as Paul does, the acquiring team must send at least 80 percent of that salary back in the deal. Paul is set to make $41,358,814 next season, according to Spotrac. That means that the Lakers would need to send out $33,087,051. That is where this gets tough, because at present, the Lakers don't have that much salary on their books to trade. They currently have six players under contract for next season: LeBron James, Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma, Quinn Cook, Alex Caruso and Talen Horton-Tucker. They are awaiting official word on five player options as well: Anthony Davis, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Rajon Rondo are expected to opt-out, and are therefore untradeable, while Avery Bradley and JaVale McGee are expected to opt-in. That would make them tradeable. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/chris-paul-trade-rumors-how-a-dec-22-start-date-for-new-nba-season-could-prevent-possible-lakers-deal/It's a question of money. Management would not risk so many good players to be released for him. No offense. Then, if they did take CP3, how much space will be left to fill the holes? Possible Reid, and CP3 is not getting any younger, they will have to invest a lot on a player that is not already at his peak. I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.
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October 26, 2020, 12:25:58 PM |
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I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.
They would because they have already won a championship in a dominant passion, the chemistry was already their, it would be stupid to build a super team if the chemistry will not be carry out, those role players that has contributed during the NBA Finals has to remain, if not all of them due to money issue, then at least most of them.
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October 26, 2020, 12:56:53 PM |
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I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.
They would because they have already won a championship in a dominant passion, the chemistry was already their, it would be stupid to build a super team if the chemistry will not be carry out, those role players that has contributed during the NBA Finals has to remain, if not all of them due to money issue, then at least most of them. Chemistry is much important than building a super team I agree with that. cause how many teams we witnessed have fallen because they thought super teams will get them to the championship and they miserably failed. Nowadays you need some role players who can actually play well when needed. The Lakers roosters right now are good enough to carry them to win another championship. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FXOeCYu_omCQ%2Fhqdefault.jpg&t=665&c=n00OBhpKXmS-wA)
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October 26, 2020, 01:48:01 PM |
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I hope Rondo will just stay, there's a rumor that he will leave the team if he can find a better offer, he was really a big help for the Lakers to win a Championship last season because he was so genius when handing the ball and Lebron was able to play his game which is being aggressive while he is holding the ball. I think Lakers would just stay with the current roster, of course, some will leave but as long as they have James and Davis, they will make the others better.
They would because they have already won a championship in a dominant passion, the chemistry was already their, it would be stupid to build a super team if the chemistry will not be carry out, those role players that has contributed during the NBA Finals has to remain, if not all of them due to money issue, then at least most of them. Chemistry is much important than building a super team I agree with that. cause how many teams we witnessed have fallen because they thought super teams will get them to the championship and they miserably failed. Nowadays you need some role players who can actually play well when needed. The Lakers roosters right now are good enough to carry them to win another championship. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FXOeCYu_omCQ%2Fhqdefault.jpg&t=665&c=n00OBhpKXmS-wA)
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Chemistry is much important than building a super team I agree with that. cause how many teams we witnessed have fallen because they thought super teams will get them to the championship and they miserably failed. Nowadays you need some role players who can actually play well when needed. The Lakers roosters right now are good enough to carry them to win another championship.
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They can actually, but hopefully with another Lebron as well on the Lakers if he wouldn’t retire on the upcoming days, weeks or months. I think this message means something. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FSxJBDL7B%2F1-AA6-DE52-447-D-4-BE7-ADB4-D27917648597.jpg&t=665&c=RxHNE51RBpc-7Q) Source: Bleacher Report
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October 26, 2020, 02:15:52 PM |
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Chemistry is much important than building a super team I agree with that. cause how many teams we witnessed have fallen because they thought super teams will get them to the championship and they miserably failed. Nowadays you need some role players who can actually play well when needed. The Lakers roosters right now are good enough to carry them to win another championship.
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They can actually, but hopefully with another Lebron as well on the Lakers if he wouldn’t retire on the upcoming days, weeks or months. I think this message means something. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FSxJBDL7B%2F1-AA6-DE52-447-D-4-BE7-ADB4-D27917648597.jpg&t=665&c=RxHNE51RBpc-7Q) Source: Bleacher Report Was that Lebron James saying he will retire? If he is, I don't believe on that statement, that's just his way to trying to convince Davis to stay. Lebron won't stop playing as he still wants to continue to dominate and he knows that's only possible with Davis on his side.
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October 26, 2020, 02:30:21 PM |
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Was that Lebron James saying he will retire?
If he is, I don't believe on that statement, that's just his way to trying to convince Davis to stay. Lebron won't stop playing as he still wants to continue to dominate and he knows that's only possible with Davis on his side.
Yeah. It seems also some kind of reverse phychology/double meaning statement from Lebron to convince AD to stay while his on unrestricted free agent this summer. I wonder if AD goes into another team. Will Lebron continue or retire? what are the odds... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 26, 2020, 02:38:33 PM |
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Was that Lebron James saying he will retire?
If he is, I don't believe on that statement, that's just his way to trying to convince Davis to stay. Lebron won't stop playing as he still wants to continue to dominate and he knows that's only possible with Davis on his side.
I think as a player like Davis that has been growing up constantly in lakers and making his name in the league it will going make him sometimes feels down not getting MVP which I think he has also been dreaming of getting to achieve. If not Lebron James then he could have won the MVP title. However, their team without Lebron James could not consider as solid even though they had good players that can actually shoot too like Kuzma and Kurozo.
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October 26, 2020, 03:08:04 PM |
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Was that Lebron James saying he will retire?
If he is, I don't believe on that statement, that's just his way to trying to convince Davis to stay. Lebron won't stop playing as he still wants to continue to dominate and he knows that's only possible with Davis on his side.
I think as a player like Davis that has been growing up constantly in lakers and making his name in the league it will going make him sometimes feels down not getting MVP which I think he has also been dreaming of getting to achieve. If not Lebron James then he could have won the MVP title. However, their team without Lebron James could not consider as solid even though they had good players that can actually shoot too like Kuzma and Kurozo. That's the thing, if without Lebron, Davis will get an MVP, but if Davis is really ambitious enough to also win an MVP award, he should not be playing under the shadow of Lebron James, but it seems he has already accept his role and the reality, what matters to him is they'll continue to win the championship, a back to back championship would be a great achievement and he knows he plays a vital role for the success.
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