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August 03, 2022, 10:48:35 AM
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I think they're going to have a hard time retaining their team for several years given the amount of stars they've brought in.  The problem is that all their stars are second tier stars.  I don't think they have a shot at winning a title with that roster.  Maybe if they all get healthy next year and have career years, but how long do you honestly think someone like Kyle Lowry is going to be able to compete in the playoffs?  This is why they'll probably be a top 3 seed in the east, but I'd be surprised if they make it out of the first round.  They have too much depth and not enough MVP power. 
It's Duncan Robinson, right? The weakest link with a contract so high they weren't unable to maximize his usage as a sharpshooter.
I don't understand what Coach Spo planned on their last playoff run. He benched him so long that maybe he forgot to be a shooter, but I don't disagree with his terms, it's his defense that is lacking which they needed most against the Celtics.
As title contender, I still believe they could go back there but the improvement of Herro and Robinson will be a crucial part of the next season.

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August 03, 2022, 10:51:30 AM
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DeMar DeRozan signs four-year deal with Nike to become face of Kobe Bryant line.

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This past spring, Nike and Vanessa Bryant came to an agreement that would see the Kobe Bryant line return to the company and resume production. On Monday, Nike also reportedly found its new face of the line in DeMar DeRozan

Really good to hear that Kobe's line will continue and for sure there is still a lot of hype around his shoes. His Kobe Grinch is still a sought items for sneaker heads and other Kobe shoes. And they made the right choice to have DeRozan carry the branding as he was close to the legend himself.


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August 03, 2022, 10:58:58 AM
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I think they're going to have a hard time retaining their team for several years given the amount of stars they've brought in.  The problem is that all their stars are second tier stars.  I don't think they have a shot at winning a title with that roster.  Maybe if they all get healthy next year and have career years, but how long do you honestly think someone like Kyle Lowry is going to be able to compete in the playoffs?  This is why they'll probably be a top 3 seed in the east, but I'd be surprised if they make it out of the first round.  They have too much depth and not enough MVP power. 
It's Duncan Robinson, right? The weakest link with a contract so high they weren't unable to maximize his usage as a sharpshooter.
I don't understand what Coach Spo planned on their last playoff run. He benched him so long that maybe he forgot to be a shooter, but I don't disagree with his terms, it's his defense that is lacking which they needed most against the Celtics.
As title contender, I still believe they could go back there but the improvement of Herro and Robinson will be a crucial part of the next season.

Yes, I was also about to ask the question, him and Tyler Herro was Miami's perimeter shooting and during their bubble run, Duncan Robinson was one of the key players in their playoffs.

But in suddenly change this year, he was not given enough minutes to play, and so he become inconsistent. I think he can still contribute to them, but there should be some changes as coach Spo gives more time to Victor Oladipo specially in the playoffs. His he was a good defender, but nevertheless, his prime years are also gone when he had that injuries.

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August 03, 2022, 11:31:21 AM
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I think they're going to have a hard time retaining their team for several years given the amount of stars they've brought in.  The problem is that all their stars are second tier stars.  I don't think they have a shot at winning a title with that roster.  Maybe if they all get healthy next year and have career years, but how long do you honestly think someone like Kyle Lowry is going to be able to compete in the playoffs?  This is why they'll probably be a top 3 seed in the east, but I'd be surprised if they make it out of the first round.  They have too much depth and not enough MVP power. 
It's Duncan Robinson, right? The weakest link with a contract so high they weren't unable to maximize his usage as a sharpshooter.
I don't understand what Coach Spo planned on their last playoff run. He benched him so long that maybe he forgot to be a shooter, but I don't disagree with his terms, it's his defense that is lacking which they needed most against the Celtics.
As title contender, I still believe they could go back there but the improvement of Herro and Robinson will be a crucial part of the next season.

Yes, I was also about to ask the question, him and Tyler Herro was Miami's perimeter shooting and during their bubble run, Duncan Robinson was one of the key players in their playoffs.

But in suddenly change this year, he was not given enough minutes to play, and so he become inconsistent. I think he can still contribute to them, but there should be some changes as coach Spo gives more time to Victor Oladipo specially in the playoffs. His he was a good defender, but nevertheless, his prime years are also gone when he had that injuries.

They need to develop Robinson's defense because he can really help with his good 3 point shooting. Miami Heat is known to be a defensive team but if they don't have a good outside shooter, their offense will also struggle as they become more predictable.

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August 03, 2022, 12:06:07 PM
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They need to develop Robinson's defense because he can really help with his good 3 point shooting. Miami Heat is known to be a defensive team but if they don't have a good outside shooter, their offense will also struggle as they become more predictable.

They've been in the playoffs for years right now and they also have the chance to compete in the NBA finals without LBJ and Wade. That only means they could really be a competent team to win a championship without those two-star players but they really need to fix their offense especially when their three-pointer guys do not work especially in the playoff games where it is crucial every shot they made. I'm sure coach Spoelstra already figured it out that's why they are adding some new capable players to their roosters to fill that positions.
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August 03, 2022, 12:07:34 PM
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Plus their scouts which really can spot a high quality player coming off from unexpected picks. But for talking about being a coach of the year well its no doubt that Kerr totally deserve this since he won multiple championships on this team.

There talent scout is well deserved a good pay check for finding all the pieces that built the current Warriors roster. Steve Kerr is a good coach if the player has a potential to improve but if the scout brings a bunch of players that doesn’t suit for Coach Kerr then I think it’s still useless to have good coach if the player itself is the problem. The current roster is very strong and has good future the big 3 will retired because there’s already young players that has potential to take over for the main guy role.



Indeed because for so many players are in the they always spot the gem over those talented players plus they really can release the full potential of the guys. Also their organization is well known on reviving the veterans career that's why they deserve that and more recognation's or more championship while their main guys are still on their roosters. Also with their current young players they have if they will not trade them for sure we can see GSW still have good future with them.

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August 03, 2022, 01:52:31 PM
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Curry is a great player I also believe but I wonder how Curry is right now if the Warriors' coach is different and not Kerr. Will they still win titles? Will Curry be the same Curry that we are seeing right now. Will Curry be a unanimous MVP? Will he win 4 titles with the Warriors.

It will be a very different story. A different coach means different offensive and defensive plays. Remember when Curry still runs the offense? He had the ball too much and the defense can easily trap him. Now he moves a lot without the ball and that gave Curry more offensive options. Small change but great effect on the offensive power of the team.

The same story with Jordan. In his early years, he had the ball too much too and the team relies heavily on him. Only when Phil Jackson came in with his triangle offense that some load was offloaded from him and the rest is history. Same team, different coach, different results.

We will never know what could happen to the warriors and Curry if Steve Kerr is not the coach.
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I think they're going to have a hard time retaining their team for several years given the amount of stars they've brought in.  The problem is that all their stars are second tier stars.  I don't think they have a shot at winning a title with that roster.  Maybe if they all get healthy next year and have career years, but how long do you honestly think someone like Kyle Lowry is going to be able to compete in the playoffs?  This is why they'll probably be a top 3 seed in the east, but I'd be surprised if they make it out of the first round.  They have too much depth and not enough MVP power. 
It's Duncan Robinson, right? The weakest link with a contract so high they weren't unable to maximize his usage as a sharpshooter.
I don't understand what Coach Spo planned on their last playoff run. He benched him so long that maybe he forgot to be a shooter, but I don't disagree with his terms, it's his defense that is lacking which they needed most against the Celtics.
As title contender, I still believe they could go back there but the improvement of Herro and Robinson will be a crucial part of the next season.
Because he is a liability inside the court. His lack of defensive abilities is worse that even though he is a three-point specialist, if he doesn't have a good night then he will just do basically nothing on the court.
That is the reason why Coach Spo benched him for the majority of the playoffs, and he will only enter if either the lead is already high or if a core player of the team needs to have some rest, but TBH I'm still curious why the Heat really gave him that huge amount of money were in fact, he can only do nothing but to just shoot threes. He is a shooter, I agree, but not all the time is a good time for him and there will be bad nights for him.

As for me, IMO they need to trade Robinson and get another player who is a defensive specialist off the bench. I agree with what @Ognasty said though that their all-stars are just a 2nd tier all-star but what's good in them is that, they built a chemistry, and they have a good coach that's why they are the top-seeded team last season but if you will ask me if they have a shot in a title, I agree that they don't have because they don't have enough pieces for them to win a title.

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August 03, 2022, 03:10:04 PM
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They need to develop Robinson's defense because he can really help with his good 3 point shooting. Miami Heat is known to be a defensive team but if they don't have a good outside shooter, their offense will also struggle as they become more predictable.

They've been in the playoffs for years right now and they also have the chance to compete in the NBA finals without LBJ and Wade. That only means they could really be a competent team to win a championship without those two-star players but they really need to fix their offense especially when their three-pointer guys do not work especially in the playoff games where it is crucial every shot they made. I'm sure coach Spoelstra already figured it out that's why they are adding some new capable players to their roosters to fill that positions.

Duncan Robinson failed its expectations of becoming Miami's version of Splash brothers together with Tyler Herro. He obviously needs to work with his defense and including his offense too. He is a trading piece for Miami Heat but the problem is his salary which is too high and it will be difficult to find a trade partner without risking other players or future draft picks.

The Miami Heat cannot reach the eastern conference this season without roster changes. They lost P.J. Tucker and they gained nothing so far except that they are possible to take KD and Mitchell.

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August 03, 2022, 03:14:04 PM
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I believe that Curry would still be a great player if Kerr wasn't their coach.

Stephen Curry creates his own specialty as his advantage and the process is successful.

He sucks at inside scoring before and can't even do a good defense. When he entered the NBA, lots of big men are dominating the league at that time. He thinks of a way how to be a useful player so he decided to enhance his shooting ability in the 3pt area and that's the start of how he changed the most offensive plays that are now being used now in the league. No need for him to always drive the ball inside for a sure shot.

That was Curry's own plan for his development that's why regardless if Kerr wasn't their coach, the result is just the same.

I mean that’s how Curry’s game has been I would imagine his whole career. At least that’s how his game has been since he was at Davidson in college. I’ll never forget I was in Madison Wisconsin visiting my sister and as we were leaving a diner I saw Curry’s photo on the local newspaper being heralded as the star of the tournament. I remember thinking to myself he’d never turn out to be anything special..boy was I wrong.

You are lucky to had a chance to probably see him in person, for us who are living outside US, our best chance to see him is on live television only. Of course Curry is special, he change basketball and he is dominating it now, though some are not convinced yet that he is the greatest active NBA player now, but his achievement will prove that as continue proving.

I unfortunately have never had the opportunity to see him play in person. I’ve done a really bad job of going and seeing todays best players. I was infect lucky enough to see Michael Jordan play several times. My dads work tickets were always just a few rows from the court, so getting to see him and the 90s bulls of close and personal was something I’ll cherish forever.

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Plus their scouts which really can spot a high quality player coming off from unexpected picks. But for talking about being a coach of the year well its no doubt that Kerr totally deserve this since he won multiple championships on this team.

There talent scout is well deserved a good pay check for finding all the pieces that built the current Warriors roster. Steve Kerr is a good coach if the player has a potential to improve but if the scout brings a bunch of players that doesn’t suit for Coach Kerr then I think it’s still useless to have good coach if the player itself is the problem. The current roster is very strong and has good future the big 3 will retired because there’s already young players that has potential to take over for the main guy role.

Speaking of young players who have potential, I'm excited to see James Wiseman playing in the center in maybe the next 2 seasons from now, the kid has a lot of potential waiting to be unlocked by Steve Kerr. Sadly, he didn't get any exposure last season because he suffered a tear in his knee that needed to undergo surgery.

Anyway, let's go back to the current big three of GSW. Looks like we won't be seeing Draymond Green wearing the same jersey because the team won't give him a max contract even if Curry is vocal that he needed Green as well as Thompson to get the team a new title next season. Rumors have it that the Clippers are looking forward to having Green if the said player won't be given the contract.

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If they retain the team in the next 3 years, the Miami Heat will have a higher chance of winning the championship again. Of course if they keep the whole team healthy.
Bam will for sure keep improving along with Tyler Herro. Duncan Robinson needs to be consistent offensively and the rest of the team needs to be healthy.
One thing I would like to see from the Heat is when they try to acquire a legit big man.
They needed Bam and the others to improve. Jimmy Butler needs all the help that he can get to lessen the load he is carrying. Healthwise, they are quite a young team so they can stay healthy. Hopefully they won't get major injuries this season. I would like to see Butler get a ring as well.

That is a fact, Bam really needed to improve because Jimmy needed to be more focused on attacking and shooting rather than thinking about their defense if he will go all out. The whole Heat roster needed Bam to be the team's wall in terms of defense so that Herro and Butler can be more effective and give the team a win at the end of the day.

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August 03, 2022, 04:32:23 PM
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I believe that Curry would still be a great player if Kerr wasn't their coach. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that they would win 4 titles without him, and not even saying they would have any titles. Based on whoever was the coach that would change. But, if we are talking about Curry, just him alone, then I can say that someone with that type of special talent wouldn't be really just be gone, he would actually do something to shoot one way or another.
Yup, I understand what you are trying to say because Curry was indeed unique and special in his own way but frankly, his talent will be nothing if it will remain like that and I cannot see him growing to be like the Curry we know now if his coach is not Steve Kerr.

Kerr's intelligence was crucial in molding Curry's potential in the industry because he taught Curry everything he has to know just to get in the position he have now and it's a win-win situation for him and for the team because if Curry will a beast in the court then there is a lot of chance that he can get the team into the Finals. That is also why Curry said that he won't leave the Warriors until the end because Warrior's has taught him a lot and became his 2nd family.

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I think they're going to have a hard time retaining their team for several years given the amount of stars they've brought in.  The problem is that all their stars are second tier stars.  I don't think they have a shot at winning a title with that roster.  Maybe if they all get healthy next year and have career years, but how long do you honestly think someone like Kyle Lowry is going to be able to compete in the playoffs?  This is why they'll probably be a top 3 seed in the east, but I'd be surprised if they make it out of the first round.  They have too much depth and not enough MVP power. 
It's Duncan Robinson, right? The weakest link with a contract so high they weren't unable to maximize his usage as a sharpshooter.
I don't understand what Coach Spo planned on their last playoff run. He benched him so long that maybe he forgot to be a shooter, but I don't disagree with his terms, it's his defense that is lacking which they needed most against the Celtics.
As title contender, I still believe they could go back there but the improvement of Herro and Robinson will be a crucial part of the next season.

Yes, I was also about to ask the question, him and Tyler Herro was Miami's perimeter shooting and during their bubble run, Duncan Robinson was one of the key players in their playoffs.

But in suddenly change this year, he was not given enough minutes to play, and so he become inconsistent. I think he can still contribute to them, but there should be some changes as coach Spo gives more time to Victor Oladipo specially in the playoffs. His he was a good defender, but nevertheless, his prime years are also gone when he had that injuries.
Oladipo just came from his major injuries and even he got something to share with Miami, but he's no longer on his prime and the

types of game now is more different way back. Both sides are important not just a defensive stopper but also a good option when

the team is in the attack position. Robinson and Herro, if both will continue their career with Miami, they need to keep improving their

both young and if they will play healthy the chance of seeing this team to another playoffs is possible.
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As for me, IMO they need to trade Robinson and get another player who is a defensive specialist off the bench. I agree with what @Ognasty said though that their all-stars are just a 2nd tier all-star but what's good in them is that, they built a chemistry, and they have a good coach that's why they are the top-seeded team last season but if you will ask me if they have a shot in a title, I agree that they don't have because they don't have enough pieces for them to win a title.
They may not do that. He is a threat on season but a liability on playoffs. Which means, there's a cure. It will be a waste of money if they trade him and I doubt some team will just like him after his bad performance last year during the playoffs. Being benched.
The only rumor I heard a week ago was him and Bertans trade of the Mavericks.
Both players are playing almost the same. Shooters with less defensive capabilities.
If Miami won't do any move in trades, they might as well strengthen their 2nd core which is composed of him including other young players.
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East power rankings.
https://www.nba.com/news/offseason-power-rankings-east-2022
1. Boston Celtics - Eastern Conference Champion
2. Milwaukee Bucks
3. Philadelphia 76ers
4. Miami Heat
I'll stop there, and yes the hype made by the Brooklyn Nets calmed down and I think that's also because of the recent trade talks.
Miami Heat on the other hand have no movements made yet except for letting PJ Tucker go.
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Bam Adebayo shot 60.3% in the paint and had an effective field goal percentage of just 34.1% on shots from outside the paint. That was the fourth biggest differential among 258 players with at least 100 field goal attempts both in and outside the paint.
This is what I want to see. Bam keeps on improving on his shots in and out of the paint. A chance they will be on top again when all are healthy.
I just wish they won't make any big trades as their chemistry as a team is just Heat-ing up.

They will become a threat in this upcoming season if Bam and everyone in their line-up keeps on improving their play so that the burden and load that Butler is carrying will be shared throughout the whole team. They already proved that they can be dangerous in the regular season and proved as well in the play-offs elimination where they gave the Celtics a hard time despite of the position they got in including Butler that is already weary carrying the team.

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Heat could let "some" players go, but they shouldn't start that with their young players. I get that Duncan Robinson (still can't believe Spurs didn't drafted him lol) may had a semi-bad season but he was also great in the playoffs when they made the finals against Lakers, which is a proof that he has it in him, he just doesn't feel like that right now, but will probably feel better in the future. So at the end of the day Lowry seems like the easiest to break, that would be a huge chunk of money gone, get like some rookie or small contract player there, and you could max all the people in there currently and wouldn't have to worry about anything at all.

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Its not only with Kerr but the whole coaching staff or shall we say the whole organization because they really help the careers of each warriors player goes to their team. Plus their scouts which really can spot a high quality player coming off from unexpected picks. But for talking about being a coach of the year well its no doubt that Kerr totally deserve this since he won multiple championships on this team.

I can not argue that Steve Kerr really deserves something like that and I think the Golden State Management deserves even more praises, they surely did something outstanding like this and pretty much it is a bigger feat, and even Bob Myers the one that Steve Kerr keep on saying the one that completed this team, and decides who's to go and who has a big potential as a player, that is Bob Myers that has been keeping the team intact, and if Draymond Green would eventually leave the team, then I think Bob Myers has the one to really say something about it,


There is a reason why the Warriors will not give Draymond Green that 4-year max contract he wants because next summer the Warriors management will face the same situation and have to make another difficult decision where the contracts of Poole, Wiggins, and Thompson will be needed to have an extension. The team honestly cannot afford to give max contracts to all of their main line-up and there will be a day that they needed to vacate their older players, but yes, that's up to Bob Myers as he knew what to do in these kind of situations.
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August 03, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
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We have seen plenty of times when the top 10 of a draft class does just alright, some even gets to be reminded because we forget them, but there are players from out of top 10 that became amazing. I mean look at Spurs and their 20 years of amazing run, they did that with one first overall pick, but then everyone else became a bit of a "pick the late draft well" players and all became very well.

I am guessing that they will keep doing that and in order to be good at that, you need to be a team that constantly achieves something, so you would be forced to find gem in the rough. Warriors have that now because they do not pick at the top that easily (aside from that one year).

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August 03, 2022, 08:53:19 PM
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They need to develop Robinson's defense because he can really help with his good 3 point shooting. Miami Heat is known to be a defensive team but if they don't have a good outside shooter, their offense will also struggle as they become more predictable.

They've been in the playoffs for years right now and they also have the chance to compete in the NBA finals without LBJ and Wade. That only means they could really be a competent team to win a championship without those two-star players but they really need to fix their offense especially when their three-pointer guys do not work especially in the playoff games where it is crucial every shot they made. I'm sure coach Spoelstra already figured it out that's why they are adding some new capable players to their roosters to fill that positions.

They are quite lucky though because Jimmy Butler is still staying for the team even though he needed to carry the team most of the time, I guess Butler sees the current roster with a huge possibility to help him get another title for the team and his first ring. I can say that the team has a chance if they remain healthy throughout the whole season because in the regular games, they are so lethal.

Robinson needs to have more exposure to improve himself more so that his talent will be put to use rather than just benching him in the sidelines. Butler and Herro needs more power outside and they cannot just carry the whole team every time because an injury will be waving.

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