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March 10, 2018, 07:53:45 PM
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Also I would really like to see a video showing what the process is like for digitally signing a longish document on the trezor model t. Or does the model t still have a character limit on digitally signed text? As far as I can surmise, the ability to digitally sign a long document like a standard legal contract is the only real advantage over the original trezor. I would be willing to send a five dollar tip to anyone who makes this for me.

Also I would be interested to know If anyone has any other reasons why the model t is preferable to them over the original. Yes, I am searching for a reason to buy a new toy!

I received my TREZOR T yesterday (thread). I can do this for you, please PM me an example document if you have one. I still haven't set up GPG for my TREZOR but it will be a good chance to do so Smiley

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March 10, 2018, 09:13:20 PM
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Here you go. [...]

Thanks, I'll try to make a video for you tomorrow. Where do you want me to upload the video? Are you okay with Youtube? Is there anything else you would like to see? It will be much easier to include everything in one video.
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March 11, 2018, 01:08:57 AM
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Here you go. [...]

Thanks, I'll try to make a video for you tomorrow. Where do you want me to upload the video? Are you okay with Youtube? Is there anything else you would like to see? It will be much easier to include everything in one video.

Yes youtube would be great.

Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Thanks!

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March 11, 2018, 08:03:03 AM
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I am almost certain that this screen will be one more point of possible failures, also it's more pricey than the old screen.

I have ordered T model instead of regular one because of newer hardware and SD-card slot that could be the  main reason why this model will probably be able to hold many more wallets when they become supported.

It would be great if they would refresh the old model with SD-card slot and newer CPU but without touch screen.
Thy will probably take that path next if this model becomes burden with screen failures.



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March 11, 2018, 10:32:00 AM
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Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is an issue with communication between TREZOR device and software. Wallet created by TREZOR works great but both Electrum and trezor-agent, which I need to use GPG, don't detect my wallet. We have to wait for someone to check the code and tell us whether it's a TREZOR or a software fault. Does anyone here also can't use Electrum? It just hangs after choosing to scan for any hardware wallet.

I am almost certain that this screen will be one more point of possible failures, also it's more pricey than the old screen.

I have ordered T model instead of regular one because of newer hardware and SD-card slot that could be the  main reason why this model will probably be able to hold many more wallets when they become supported.

The device is really convenient but as you mentioned there might be some problems with the touchscreen. So far, I have seen only one report where user was able to type but holding, which is needed for example to confirm sending transaction or wiping the device, wouldn't work. By the way, did you get your device? Which batch were you in?
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March 11, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
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Hm. I guess I'm a bit interested in your appraisal of how the touch screen feels when you use it. Is it responsive? Is it too responsive? Does it ever fail to receive intended commands, go off when you didn't intend to, or on buttons you didn't intend to push? Stuff like that.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is an issue with communication between TREZOR device and software. Wallet created by TREZOR works great but both Electrum and trezor-agent, which I need to use GPG, don't detect my wallet. We have to wait for someone to check the code and tell us whether it's a TREZOR or a software fault. Does anyone here also can't use Electrum? It just hangs after choosing to scan for any hardware wallet.

GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?

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GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?

Oh, I thought you were talking about GPG all the time, my bad. Touchscreen works great, I don't have to use a lot of pressure - it feels just like a smartphone. On the video you might notice some black lines, this issue has been already reported here. My hand was shaking a bit, I'm not used to recording using only one hand. Before making this video, I have changed my PIN and decided to use different passphrase. It was difficult for me to type in a passphrase because I usually hold the device in my hand, it is much more comfortable.

Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhDUj4JqGk&feature=youtu.be
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March 12, 2018, 08:14:11 PM
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GPG is cool too but what about just a Secp256k1 signature like the original trezor does? You know, on the "sign and verify" tab of wallet.trezor.io?

Oh, I thought you were talking about GPG all the time, my bad. Touchscreen works great, I don't have to use a lot of pressure - it feels just like a smartphone. On the video you might notice some black lines, this issue has been already reported here. My hand was shaking a bit, I'm not used to recording using only one hand. Before making this video, I have changed my PIN and decided to use different passphrase. It was difficult for me to type in a passphrase because I usually hold the device in my hand, it is much more comfortable.

Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhDUj4JqGk&feature=youtu.be

Well it wasn't the answer I was hoping for but it is the answer to my question. Thank you.

For anyone who doesnt feel like watching the whole video, the trezor model T does not appear to improve upon the message signing capabilities of the original trezor in any way.

Message me a bitcoin or monero address. Which ever you prefer.

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March 12, 2018, 09:00:51 PM
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Trezor Model T Unboxing - New Cryptocoin Hardware Wallet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRSwos5oewQ

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March 13, 2018, 01:25:28 AM
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Does anyone here also can't use Electrum?

Electrum 3.1.1 was just released with updated Trezor T support: https://electrum.org/#download (3.1.0 also had support, but there indeed were some issues - so maybe this fixes it for you too.)

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March 13, 2018, 07:40:13 AM
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Trezor Model T Unboxing - New Cryptocoin Hardware Wallet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRSwos5oewQ

Do we have any videos of SD-card slot actually being used for something in these phase or is that option just to be future proof for some new coins?

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March 13, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
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Trezor Model T Unboxing - New Cryptocoin Hardware Wallet

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Nice unboxing video, thanks for sharing!

Please don't let us wait too long for the second part!  Smiley

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March 13, 2018, 07:40:35 PM
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Does anyone know if there is any way to build custom transactions? I want to control exactly which addresses are used as inputs and I want to control what address the change is going to. Mostly though, the change address is the important part, so that I don't inadvertently link my addresses together.

You may try Electrum. You can control which addresses you spend from with the 'freeze' feature (only unfreezed addresses will be used). I'm not sure about the change address though. There's a setting under 'Preferences' (use change address) but not sure what this will do if unchecked.

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March 13, 2018, 08:37:39 PM
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Electrum 3.1.1 was just released with updated Trezor T support: https://electrum.org/#download (3.1.0 also had support, but there indeed were some issues - so maybe this fixes it for you too.)

Thank you very much for the information. I was waiting for this update. Electrum would hang during the process of detecting TREZOR T, now it works great.

Do we have any videos of SD-card slot actually being used for something in these phase or is that option just to be future proof for some new coins?

Right now, SD card slot is only used for updating the bootloader. SD card could be used for locally saving labels (right now this stuff is being encrypted on your Dropbox account) and Lightning Network information about your opened channels etc. TREZOR also plans to implement storage which would be encrypted with your private key. However, it will take them some time to release this feature. Let's hope it won't be as "futureproof" as Bluetooth in Ledger Blue which was discontinued.
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March 13, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
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The storage area is erased when you upload unofficial firmware.
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March 14, 2018, 12:24:42 AM
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Trezor Model T Unboxing - New Cryptocoin Hardware Wallet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRSwos5oewQ

Nice unboxing video, thanks for sharing!

Please don't let us wait too long for the second part!  Smiley

Second part is up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gSinN8hdeQ

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March 14, 2018, 12:35:35 AM
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So does anyone know how many were made for preorder of the model t and if when they will they be releasing the next batch and how many are in that bunch?

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March 14, 2018, 11:09:13 AM
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Trezor Model T Unboxing - New Cryptocoin Hardware Wallet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRSwos5oewQ

Nice unboxing video, thanks for sharing!

Please don't let us wait too long for the second part!  Smiley

Second part is up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gSinN8hdeQ

p.s I'm not Lee Smiley

OK  Smiley
Thanks for sharing anyway

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March 14, 2018, 01:11:14 PM
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So does anyone know how many were made for preorder of the model t and if when they will they be releasing the next batch and how many are in that bunch?

There were 4 pre-order batches. Every of them had a different price and amount of available devices. As far as I remember it was:
Batch 1: 1000, Batch 2: 2000, Batch 3: 3000, Batch 4: 4000. We can assume that there were more than 10 thousand devices (developers, review samples and a few replacement ones). Pre-orders were available for a long time. Batches number 1 and 2 were sold out at the first day. Batch 4 was available for at least a week.

So far, they said that Q2 2018 seems to be the date of the next batch. We don't know how many devices or going to be in it.
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March 20, 2018, 08:55:34 PM
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I just received my Trezor T today and was trying to get it running. However, when installing the firmware, it keeps getting stuck at 25%..

Anyone noticed this problem and knows how to get around it?

EDIT: I got around it by connecting it to my smartphone instead of PC.
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