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June 20, 2016, 02:27:17 AM
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This is crypto dude, you are the only one responsible for your coins. Always send a small transaction and see if it goes through before you send a big one.

Not when your Stupid Fork Loses the coins and your Lying ass Dev offers compensation to others for their loss, but not yours.
The fork wiped out 2 or more days of transactions, so really comment on what you know.
He said he would be in the chat room on Yobit, I have not see him there.

30 days and the Pozer has done Nothing, so now he pays for being a liar.



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Worse he knows he is a Liar and did me wrong , which is why the coward won't speak to me directly.


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June 20, 2016, 02:51:21 AM
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Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?
I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey Wink
That sounds very interesting, could we contact with gocoin or similar payment gateways? It will be great!

Yes, very interesting indeed, the beauty of which is it grows other ideas. We had previously been in contact with coinpayments.net and had a campaign to convince them to consider adding EverGreenCoin. That effort was unfruitful. I mentioned the reasons I suspect it was so in this post. We can and will in the near future try again. As I previously mentioned, it might be wise to let the markets recover before we do so so that marketcap gives them more reason to consider. Of course we can add gocoin to the list.

I personally like the idea of dropshipping and think it is a promising idea. When I mentioned the idea to a colleague, they were of the opinion it was not wise and only offered, "it has failed for others." as an explanation and had to end the conversation. Of course that is not a strong enough argument to not pursue the idea. I will see if they are willing to elaborate on their discontent with the idea and, if so, present that point of view to the community on their behalf if they are unwilling to. But again, I like the idea but of course I am open to arguments that might prove it a path not to continue on. I have not yet heard such arguments.

Regardless of the dropshipping debate, the next step remains a payment processing gateway. I do know crypto-friendly merchants that would be happy to accept EGC once we reach this milestone. Some of them wanting to feature EGC and perhaps offer discounts for its use. Which brings up another point and idea I would like to bounce of the community members that like this idea so far: Why use EGC for a purchase as oppose to just using BTC? Know, we know the reasons that it helps EGC, creating demand. But, why would a consumer that already sees the benefit of using crypto and does want to use crypto for the purchase add the seemingly unnecessary step of converting the BTC into EGC for the purchase? This is the sticking point that I think all 'alt' coins face. So, we need an incentive. Now, when many of the environmentally supportive ideas (solar miners, solar mining farm, ecosia.org or similar, ect.) are implemented and using EGC has tangible evidence as being a currency that its use alone helps the environment, I do feel many people would then see that once unnecessary conversion step (BTC or other to EGC) as a worthwhile step. Until then, we need more I think, an incentive. Perhaps the EGC Foundation can step in to make an incentive by ways of covering a small discount or a rebate. Often times a discount of only 2% offsets shipping, it is implementing the discount that posses a problem. Now, some like-minded merchants will offer discounts and are small/agile enough, yet serve a global consumer base, to do so on a per transaction basis. The foundation matching or even covering the discount would be attractive to consumers and therefor merchants alike. To the best of my knowledge, implementing a discount at the payment processing gateway is not an option. Unless we were able to make some arrangement with said payment processing gateway, this might not be a feasible option thus making the discount incentive idea not realistic for many merchants and merchants that simply can not handle discounts on a per transaction basis for whatever reason. For this reason the rebate idea becomes more possible and promising. The foundation could rebate purchases made with EGC, therefore making an incentive for consumers. Of course, both the discount and rebate could not be a large because the funding is limited to do so but, wise consumers know it does not take much to offset shipping or sales tax (VAT).

Just an idea I have been thinking on and wanted to, like I said, share / discuss  with the community members that are being helpful with these and other ideas. Thanks to those of you that are!  Smiley




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June 20, 2016, 02:53:53 AM
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Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?
I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey Wink
That sounds very interesting, could we contact with gocoin or similar payment gateways? It will be great!

Yes, very interesting indeed, the beauty of which is it grows other ideas. We had previously been in contact with coinpayments.net and had a campaign to convince them to consider adding EverGreenCoin. That effort was unfruitful. I mentioned the reasons I suspect it was so in this post. We can and will in the near future try again. As I previously mentioned, it might be wise to let the markets recover before we do so so that marketcap gives them more reason to consider. Of course we can add gocoin to the list.

I personally like the idea of dropshipping and think it is a promising idea. When I mentioned the idea to a colleague, they were of the opinion it was not wise and only offered, "it has failed for others." as an explanation and had to end the conversation. Of course that is not a strong enough argument to not pursue the idea. I will see if they are willing to elaborate on their discontent with the idea and, if so, present that point of view to the community on their behalf if they are unwilling to. But again, I like the idea but of course I am open to arguments that might prove it a path not to continue on. I have not yet heard such arguments.

Regardless of the dropshipping debate, the next step remains a payment processing gateway. I do know crypto-friendly merchants that would be happy to accept EGC once we reach this milestone. Some of them wanting to feature EGC and perhaps offer discounts for its use. Which brings up another point and idea I would like to bounce of the community members that like this idea so far: Why use EGC for a purchase as oppose to just using BTC? Know, we know the reasons that it helps EGC, creating demand. But, why would a consumer that already sees the benefit of using crypto and does want to use crypto for the purchase add the seemingly unnecessary step of converting the BTC into EGC for the purchase? This is the sticking point that I think all 'alt' coins face. So, we need an incentive. Now, when many of the environmentally supportive ideas (solar miners, solar mining farm, ecosia.org or similar, ect.) are implemented and using EGC has tangible evidence as being a currency that its use alone helps the environment, I do feel many people would then see that once unnecessary conversion step (BTC or other to EGC) as a worthwhile step. Until then, we need more I think, an incentive. Perhaps the EGC Foundation can step in to make an incentive by ways of covering a small discount or a rebate. Often times a discount of only 2% offsets shipping, it is implementing the discount that posses a problem. Now, some like-minded merchants will offer discounts and are small/agile enough, yet serve a global consumer base, to do so on a per transaction basis. The foundation matching or even covering the discount would be attractive to consumers and therefor merchants alike. To the best of my knowledge, implementing a discount at the payment processing gateway is not an option. Unless we were able to make some arrangement with said payment processing gateway, this might not be a feasible option thus making the discount incentive idea not realistic for many merchants and merchants that simply can not handle discounts on a per transaction basis for whatever reason. For this reason the rebate idea becomes more possible and promising. The foundation could rebate purchases made with EGC, therefore making an incentive for consumers. Of course, both the discount and rebate could not be a large because the funding is limited to do so but, wise consumers know it does not take much to offset shipping or sales tax (VAT).

Just an idea I have been thinking on and wanted to, like I said, share / discuss  with the community members that are being helpful with these and other ideas. Thanks to those of you that are!  Smiley



ill elaborate as best i can ...

faith in the company drop shipping ( unless a large established company of course ) is always a very low - and always something that leads to 'no stock' being kept on site ... which also leads to all forms of issues when stock-on-hand is non existent ...

my comment of 'it has failed for others' should have stood on its own merit steven ... especially coming from a man that has extensive retail industry experience in many areas - where i owned not only three retails stores here in australia - but also expanded into a warehouse and online shopping company with consultancy offices in three states - larger than the size of the most of the US ... drop shipping accrues more loss of faith in a company - due to their perceived inability to carry stock and thus their accountability ... its accountability that is the big issue here - and the perceived stability of the company due to lack of holdings of stock ...

yes - perceived ... we have been over this many times in private ...

i dont like coming out here and debating something that i have firm experience in ... you know that ... i would rather DO and SHOW ... like you with the amazing dev work you do ...

we need to discuss where this will lead to a cohesive system we can work from ... and inform the community and public as to what will need to happen in future with such things as shopping and ideas related ...

i agree with MANY things that have been discussed and brought forward - but dropshipping will not be one that i will back ... not unless a proven track record of the company we setup is prevalent - that will bring a solid backing from the community of BUYERS ... the only ones that actually have a say in this ... as these buyers dont exist - we can only speculate ... and as such - investing funds ( as well as time and effort - taking away from the development work that we have been discussing for many many weeks now ) into an idea that seems to be ( to me ) an unfounded sentiment of moving forward ...

an online shop - yes definitely ... to carry nothing in terms of stock of equipment - no way ... it will mean that we are no better than any other 'business' and their dog out in crypto world - that wants to start something like this ...

we are more than that - and the infrastructure will attest to that ... we will not be just an idea tying to surface ... especially when there is an infrastructure backing the idea ...

if you all feel im being too direct - then voice your opinions ... and if its still not a strong enough argument to NOT go for it ( yet ) - then we will have a lot more to discuss than just dropshipping ...

as for the payment gateway - i can only work with you on that - as skaia and i have been working on a system long before it was even mentioned here ... but your ideas seems to be relevant and logical and well placed ... more than just a dev - there are many more factors that are faced on this level - and the one thing doesnt seem to get very much mention - IS the infrastructure and beckend of ANY coin ...

whereas my whole focus has been that - which is why the development of the projects we have under our belts had to be put on hold until the infrastructure and backend was solid ...

i refuse to discuss any more ideas here with such things - and this is due to the reasons ive discussed with you personally steven ... too much is always at stake - and my reasons have been voice privately to you ...

im going back to continue working on the infrastructure and the entire backend of the ecosystem for 'theprojects' and 'theteam' ...

a few things that require attention here - and starting this week - i hope we can really start on them ...

tanx mate ...

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June 20, 2016, 03:04:16 AM
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I've offered to assist in Website / Online Development for EGC previously. The offer still stands.
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I had PMd you back on May 31st on this very topic, Port. Perhaps you overlooked it, but I will resend it to you now.

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... and the above posts regarding forks and payments - are the MAIN reason that proves PERCEPTION is everything ...

regardless of whether facts prove otherwise or not ...

if ANYONE here thinks that getting into the crypto world means you are safe from ANYTHING happening - you are dead wrong ...

it is YOUR responsibility - and with that responsibility comes the risk of of ANYTHING happening - like forks and issues with the network and other such things ...

if losses occur - then so be it ... if gains occur - then so be it ... whatever happens is the responsibility of the person involved in making the deals in the first place ... which means the PUNTER ... yes - YOU - the investor ...

there ARE responsibilities on the devs and the team that make things happen within the network - but their responsibilities are limited to what they CAN do - not YOUR decisions or money or investments ...

for those that have a grievance - the WORST thing you can do is start slander against the dev team ... that really is the WORST thing you can do ...

the BEST thing you can do is to make DECENT conversation in ways that are open to you - AND try and find a resolve ... thats it ...

steven has been MORE than giving in so much - and yet - this slander continues ... so much for a democratic way of resolving issues! ...

if i were in control of the foundations funds - i would be so much more harsh than steven has been towards the so called 'losses' that occur ...

its very simple - if YOU make the decision to 'get in' on ANY project ... then YOU need to accept the responsibility of ANYTHING ( not just losses ) that occur ...

i live and work by the one creed that keeps my team and i alive and well in such times ...

NEVER invest any more than you are willing to LOSE ... NEVER ...

if you cant abide by that one creed ( though more a rule ) - then get out of crypto altogether ...

especially if you have invested in such things like ethereum - where people are losing more than just a few hundred dollars of investments ... like REAL investors - the majority take it on the chin - and accept that the devs are doing what they can to resolve issues - and WORK WITH the devs and team to find a resolve ...

slander will always be around unfortunately - and wont still wont resolve issues ... but that will be like water off a ducks back - especially to an old crypto duck like me ...

steven has my back - and i his ...

now resolve these issues in a civil manner - or dont ... it will be up to you entirely ...

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I had PMd you back on May 31st on this very topic, Port. Perhaps you overlooked it, but I will resend it to you now.

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Crappy Dev , you are worthless.

Why did you offer to compensate the other guy for his loss , but ignore the fact your worthless hide has done Nothing to help recover the Loss funds from Yobit.
Which were Lost Due to your Crappy Coin Software and a Crappy So called checkpoint Server.


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June 20, 2016, 04:56:35 AM
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Hey Asshat ,

Your Dev is a LIAR,

He can

1.  Admit he is a Crappy Dev and all Yobit Funds were lost because he is incompetent

2. Reimburse the lost amount since he was willing to for gizfreak.

3. Get Yobit to update their blockchain , so we get access back to the Crappy Coins.

In other Words , get off of his lazy ass and do something, instead of hoping it goes away.

I really don't care

If he just wants to admit he is a crappy dev, then that works for me.

But option 1 ,2 , or 3 pick one, until you do one of those , I am here to remind everyone how crappy you and this coin are.
Take your pick asshat dev.


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Definition of Slander:
the action of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

Everything I have said about your ASSHAT Dev is True, so it is not slander.

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June 20, 2016, 05:03:17 AM
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now resolve these issues in a civil manner - or dont ... it will be up to you entirely ...

#crysx

And that answers that.

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now resolve these issues in a civil manner - or dont ... it will be up to you entirely ...

#crysx

And that answers that.

Which you have yet to make 1 recent reply, just hide behind your useless minions.

Just admit you are a crappy dev , if options 2 or 3 are beyond you.

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FYI:
How are you going to run a coin network , when you are too frighten to even have a direct conversation with someone that you have wronged?

FYI2:
@crysx , you want to stand up for this unbelievably cowardly dev, your call ,
But he was not their to support the coin users on Yobit, you are foolish to think he will stand up in a pinch when you need him. 
And as far as the amount lost, I can afford to lose it, but having him lie to me and then see him offer compensation to Gizfreak, when he has ignored Yobit users loss entirely , I am not going to let him get away with that. The Asshat has 3 options, maybe you minions should help him pick, as I said he can just admit to being a crappy dev.
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Quote from: EverGreenCoin
EDIT: I now see you have been in the trollbox urging them to get on the correct chain. Thank you for doing so and yes I have been as well.
I promise you we will get through this and your coins will be back where they belong just as soon as possible.

You Said the Above and You LIED!!

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FYI:
Future Investors Beware , the Dev of this coins will not support you when you need him too.
You might as well just set your money on fire as invest in this crap coin that forks even with a checkpoint server.
And the Dev is too lazy to even get an exchange to redownload a blockchain.
He will make promises and never follow thru.


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I just repost these last 2 posts on a daily basis from now on, until an option 1,2,3 is chosen by your dev.

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June 20, 2016, 05:55:53 AM
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I missed the last few days and I just upgraded and everything seems to be running flawlessly.

Great work guys!

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I missed the last few days and I just upgraded and everything seems to be running flawlessly.

Great work guys!


It peachy,
Except for the Fact Yobit Users lost all of their coins ~30 days ago.
And the Dev has done nothing about it.
 Tongue


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FYI:
Makes you wonder who will lose coins in the next Fork that is not supposed to happen with this crap coin.
But don't worry gizfreak the dev will break his piggy bank to make sure you don't lose coins, it is just the rest of us, he does not give a damn about.
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I missed the last few days and I just upgraded and everything seems to be running flawlessly.

Great work guys!


It peachy,
Except for the Fact Yobit Users lost all of their coins ~30 days ago.
And the Dev has done nothing about it.
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FYI:
Makes you wonder who will lose coins in the next Fork that is not supposed to happen with this crap coin.
But don't worry gizfreak the dev will break his piggy bank to make sure you don't lose coins, it is just the rest of us, he does not give a damn about.


That's not how forks work. Regardless of forks, addresses and their private keys are the same. You can generate an address on any fork and it will work on all forks.

If you send coins on the wrong fork, you don't lose anything on the correct fork and vice versa.

So while I have no idea what happened to you, you can't just lose coins unless you or yobit messed up royally (for example, not having backups).

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That's not how forks work. Regardless of forks, addresses and their private keys are the same. You can generate an address on any fork and it will work on all forks.

If you send coins on the wrong fork, you don't lose anything on the correct fork and vice versa.

So while I have no idea what happened to you, you can't just lose coins unless you or yobit messed up royally (for example, not having backups).

You and the rest that feel the need to comment , why don't you go back and read from may 18th up, so you quit being so irritating confused.

No I withdrawal the coins on May 19, received them in my wallet and even staked a day or two later.
This crapy coin forked, Yobit still shows my withdraw transaction id.
(The stupid coin forked before the time I received the coins. Which shows it difficulty is to low and lousy security.)

When your network switched to a different fork, the coins ownership reverted back to Yobit like I had never received them,
and this crappy ass dev promised to help resolve the issue.
1. By getting Yobit to redownload the blockchain,
which they have not done. and he has not even continued to bring it up in chat at yobit.
See :
Quote from: EverGreenCoin
EDIT: I now see you have been in the trollbox urging them to get on the correct chain. Thank you for doing so and yes I have been as well.
I promise you we will get through this and your coins will be back where they belong just as soon as possible.

His promises are useless.
He should not have made a promise he had no intention of keeping , which is why I call him a LIAR.

He said if bittrex had trouble he was going to reimburse them, why do we as the Yobit users get left out.
Like I said he has 3 options. (His Choice)

1. Admit he is a Crappy Dev and all Yobit Funds were lost because he is incompetent
(The reason he is incompetent, is that  a 2 day old fork should not have been possible, if he was truly running a checkpoint server like he claimed, so there you have another lie.)
or
2. Reimburse the lost amount since he was willing to for gizfreak.
or
3. Get Yobit to update their blockchain , so we get access back to the Crappy Coins.


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@kiklo:


First off, you're being pretty childish and annoying to deal with so you're making things worse.

Secondly, the dev can't force yobit to upgrade and yobit is pretty shitty at upgrading their wallets for other coins as well.


Your missing coins are purely yobit's fault and it's not the fork's fault (as I explained earlier). Write to them to get your coins back.

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@kiklo:


First off, you're being pretty childish and annoying to deal with so you're making things worse.

Secondly, the dev can't force yobit to upgrade and yobit is pretty shitty at upgrading their wallets for other coins as well.


Your missing coins are purely yobit's fault and it's not the fork's fault (as I explained earlier). Write to them to get your coins back.

No it is the Dev & Yobit's Fault,
he should not make promises, he should also not offer to compensate gizfreak while ignoring Yobit users.
This pissed me off, as i had written off the amount, but seeing him offer others compensation was the final straw.

He should be in the Yobit chat forum every day, which he is not.
Like I said 3 options,

He can just make 1 post admitting he is a crappy dev, and I will accept that for my payment.
otherwise, expect to see me in here everyday from now on.

And nothing any of you say will deter me , he has 3 options pick one.

FYI:
And there are other users besides me that lost on this Yobit / Dev Fork,  they are just not as vocal.
I lost ~7700 and another guy lost 3000 and your Dev does absolutely nothing.
Well he can chose option 1 if he is incapable of option 2 or 3.
I await his post where he admits he is a crappy dev, and I am finished, until then I am retired and can be here forever, his choice.

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June 20, 2016, 09:02:08 AM
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for those that have a grievance - the WORST thing you can do is start slander against the dev team ... that really is the WORST thing you can do ...

the BEST thing you can do is to make DECENT conversation in ways that are open to you - AND try and find a resolve ... thats it ...

steven has been MORE than giving in so much - and yet - this slander continues ... so much for a democratic way of resolving issues! ...

The point I'd add to that is if you constantly complain and just imply that everyone else is failing to do their job then all that actually happens is that you come across as a troll and get ignored.

its very simple - if YOU make the decision to 'get in' on ANY project ... then YOU need to accept the responsibility of ANYTHING ( not just losses ) that occur ...

i live and work by the one creed that keeps my team and i alive and well in such times ...

NEVER invest any more than you are willing to LOSE ... NEVER ...

An important point to remember with any investment (the same applies to hard currency as well as crypto currencies).

All investments carry a risk (people have even lost money putting it in the bank). You trade off the risk vs. the reward. If you don't want to take much risk you put the money in a bank and get little. In general the higher the potential reward (and so also higher risk) the more you need to know about the investment and more work you'll need to do.

If you want more return for your money you use something riskier that almost certainly also require more effort on your part. With hard currency the equivalent to the likes of yobit are the financial markets, these can lead to great rewards but that comes with great risks. If you do something wrong on the stock exchanges no one will come to bail you out. In all the riskier investments all transactions to some extent are a gamble as you don't know what will happen tomorrow (the company you invested in could go bust, you could put the wrong address in your crypro transaction, the exchange devs could refuse to talk to their users), when that happens the you lost that gamble. But by choosing wisely and only gambling what you can afford to lose you'll have more gambles that pay off which give you your return and cover the failed gambles.


As a real world example of this I invest in a system where my money is broken down into small chunks and lent out to those that need a loan (loans being made up from many people doing the same as me). Whilst I hope that every one taking a loan out will pay it all back I know that some will fail to do this. Because of that I determine what rate of interest I want to get back and set the interest rate I charge slightly higher. This means that when I account for those that don't fully repay the loan the extra interest from all the other loans covers that amount and I still earn the returns I wanted.
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June 20, 2016, 09:04:57 AM
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EDIT: I now see you have been in the trollbox urging them to get on the correct chain. Thank you for doing so and yes I have been as well.
I promise you we will get through this and your coins will be back where they belong just as soon as possible.
Maybe you asshats should be telling your Dev to not make promises he has no intention of keeping.

Unless you just like Supporting LIARS

Notice how chicken little has let all of the rest of you to speak for him, he knows he is in the wrong.



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It has Been 30 DAYS, ASSHATS!!!

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June 20, 2016, 09:12:37 AM
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Secondly, the dev can't force yobit to upgrade and yobit is pretty shitty at upgrading their wallets for other coins as well.

Your missing coins are purely yobit's fault and it's not the fork's fault (as I explained earlier). Write to them to get your coins back.

He should be in the Yobit chat forum every day, which he is not.
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, until then I am retired and can be here forever, his choice.


Presumably you have been on the yobit chat and support systems everyday asking them to upgrade their version and get on the right block chain. After all as you say you've got plenty of time.

Whilst the Dev might have slightly more sway in getting them to upgrade he also has had to deal with all the other exchanges, pools, update the code and role out the updates across the infrastructure (as well as presumably holding down a day job to pay the bills).

We can all do out bit to help out be that providing constructive help and advice on the forums/irc, working on projects to help make this coin excellent. Keeping the pressure on exchanges / pools etc that have failed to upgrade. etc.
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June 20, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
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Presumably you have been on the yobit chat and support systems everyday asking them to upgrade their version and get on the right block chain. After all as you say you've got plenty of time.

Whilst the Dev might have slightly more sway in getting them to upgrade he also has had to deal with all the other exchanges, pools, update the code and role out the updates across the infrastructure (as well as presumably holding down a day job to pay the bills).

We can all do out bit to help out be that providing constructive help and advice on the forums/irc, working on projects to help make this coin excellent. Keeping the pressure on exchanges / pools etc that have failed to upgrade. etc.

Have your Asshat Dev explain how a coin has a 2 day fork when it has a working checkpoint server.
It can't ,
HE LIED!!

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30 Day has the asshat dev rally the troops on Yobit , No he is doing Nothing and now he is being called on it.
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