[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[bitbitch]

which exchanges are most likely to list first, and when?

or, will coin first be offered for sale via Reddit listings?

[LiskHQ]

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

Can we start a moderated thread and get this bellend removed from BCT...

I can understand you. However, we felt an unmoderated thread is the right thing to do. There is enough censorship in the world already. Please head to our Lisk Chat or Lisk Forum to prevent annoying users. Else you can always just use the ignore function of this forum to hide their posts.

[dzarmush]

I can tell you what will happen: they will pump until they got funds released from ICO and then DUMP ALL and run away to the next "project to steal your money" ! AS THEY DID FOR CRYPTI!!

Just got an idea. Such obvious troll and fud posts only help to keep interest to the ICO, so what if it's one of large investors or Lisk dev itself post it? It keeps conversation going and keeps the thread always on top of other threads.

[bitbitch]

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

Can we start a moderated thread and get this bellend removed from BCT...

I can understand you. However, we felt an unmoderated thread is the right thing to do. There is enough censorship in the world already. Please head to our Lisk Chat or Lisk Forum to prevent annoying users. Else you can always just use the ignore function of this forum to hide their posts.

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

[stereotype]

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

[LiskHQ]

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

Yes.

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

We will.

[lisker]

An ICO without FUD wouldn't be an ICO.

[bitbitch]

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

Yes.

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

We will.

and they are independent (of each other) multi signature parties?

located in Germany?
incorporated?
known and respected in the space?
what are the safeguard protocols?

[LiskHQ]

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

Yes.

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

We will.

and they are independent (of each other) multi signature parties?

located in Germany?
incorporated?
known and respected in the space?
what are the safeguard protocols?

Independent, well-known, respected.

Check: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-25ca3ecd5a4d

[gravitate]

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

Yes.

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

We will.

and they are independent (of each other) multi signature parties?

located in Germany?
incorporated?
known and respected in the space?
what are the safeguard protocols?

Independent, well-known, respected.

Check: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-25ca3ecd5a4d

Cool so what will the ICO funds be used for? I mean forking an existing coin doesnt cost that much lol
Im just getting a little worried with all the FUD I guess.

[Kevinrasf]

An ICO without FUD wouldn't be an ICO.

Hahahaha Amen!

Indeed FUD is a major ingredient in a succesfull ICO.

[Kevinrasf]

are the BTC being held in multi signature escrow?

Yes.

Do you guys want another proof video of the ICO funds today? The amount doubled since the last time so I understand it if you want to see it.

No. Just be transparent and show us how Lisk is going to use and allocate it, when its appropriate.

We will.

and they are independent (of each other) multi signature parties?

located in Germany?
incorporated?
known and respected in the space?
what are the safeguard protocols?

Independent, well-known, respected.

Check: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-ico-terms-25ca3ecd5a4d

Cool so what will the ICO funds be used for? I mean forking an existing coin doesnt cost that much lol
Im just getting a little worried with all the FUD I guess.

I believe the FUD will go away if LISK gets a proper launch.

Well most of the FUD, you will always keep some FUD.

[Vega]

Look, guys. I understand if someone have questions and concerns about the ICO the future of the funds, the devs, etc. I know it's not reasonable to ask someone to read 100+ pages to research the possibly answers.

The problem is that if you have a basic question you can be pretty sure it was already asked and answered more than once. You are wasting everyones' time asking them and expecting detailed answers.
If you just joined the thread and will follow from now on you'll be annoyed too in a week when you'll see the same questions asked over and over.

If I may suggest, just go to LiskHQs profile and look at his posts. Most answers had to have come from him anyway. You don't even have to read all posts just skim them, or use search for key words from your question.

(Yes, I know very well this post is pointless, I just couldn't help myself, having one of those days.)

[MalReynolds]

I can tell you what will happen: they will pump until they got funds released from ICO and then DUMP ALL and run away to the next "project to steal your money" ! AS THEY DID FOR CRYPTI!!

Just got an idea. Such obvious troll and fud posts only help to keep interest to the ICO, so what if it's one of large investors or Lisk dev itself post it? It keeps conversation going and keeps the thread always on top of other threads.

Nah, it's Latoshi.  Hi, Latoshi!

I already sold my 3 million XCR.  Got 2000plus satoshis for it months ago.  I no longer have any financial interest in XCR, so I can speak the truth without fear of a price crash in XCR.  

Dude.  (Ugly) Open Source Fork Is Not A Crime.  If you have no dog in this XCR / LISK fight, sing Let It Go <Michael Bay version> and leave this thread to watch some sunsets....

Here's the bottom line:  

Look, guys. I understand if someone have questions and concerns about the ICO the future of the funds, the devs, etc. I know it's not reasonable to ask someone to read 100+ pages to research the possibly answers.

All you newcomers, here's the one and only quote you need to read from all of the page 10-15 early arguments about how Lisk got started:

Hi, everyone!

I'm the initial Crypti investor that kick-started the whole project financially back at 2014. I understand those who is negative for the situation.

Well yes, Max could warn us about his plans, he is not obliged to do it. The system open source and platform developed exactly for people to use at their own, to build new projects, platforms and etc. Everyone from community, holders and founders have this right. If not Max, sooner or later it could be someone from you. But honestly I'm very happy that Max did it first. He have great experience, he is a real hard-working man, very delegated to job. I know him personally, met him in Germany, he is a very bright and smart guy. I'm sure he will spread Lisk to whole blockcain world by pushing more on pr and marketing.

I hope ICO funds be enough and let do a really great job to bring the platform to the world. We in Crypti pushed on development and did a great job having a great platform as a result. Unfortunately no money left for marketing and further development. And for me personally Lisk is the same project with the same idea we wanted bring to the world. For me nothing changed. Same platform which can become more powerful with the new ICO.

Especially I'm more calm and confident in success knowing that Max is the one who will continue our great job. That's why I and our team including Boris support Max and wish him success. Also no need represent Oliver, everyone of you seen his work. Guys, wish you Good Luck! I appreciate that you still believe in idea we wanted bring to the world.

I suggest everyone to treat this as second funding round what is are very common in start-ups.

[captainvest]

Look, guys. I understand if someone have questions and concerns about the ICO the future of the funds, the devs, etc. I know it's not reasonable to ask someone to read 100+ pages to research the possibly answers.

The problem is that if you have a basic question you can be pretty sure it was already asked and answered more than once. You are wasting everyones' time asking them and expecting detailed answers.
If you just joined the thread and will follow from now on you'll be annoyed too in a week when you'll see the same questions asked over and over.

If I may suggest, just go to LiskHQs profile and look at his posts. Most answers had to have come from him anyway. You don't even have to read all posts just skim them, or use search for key words from your question.

(Yes, I know very well this post is pointless, I just couldn't help myself, having one of those days.)

Yup! I spent a lot of time on the website learning. I think 99% of all questions asked in the past 48 hours could easily be answered if they simply took a look at the website. I even sent a couple questions directly to Max but realized afterwards my own questions could have been answered if I just took 10 minutes and read through the website. Most of the FUD attacks are a bit premature because answers are available. Don't forget there is a chat room. you can get information there too.

[cannabanana]

All you newcomers, here's the one and only quote you need to read from all of the page 10-15 early arguments about how Lisk got started:

Hi liskHQ i'm one of the old Crypti investor that you left with dump bag...

DO YOU THINK TO MANAGE LISK THE SAME AS CRYPTI? HYPE HYPE, PUMP, DUMP DUMP & GO NEXT TO OTHER ICO??  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg13807300#msg13807300

Who is the original Crypti Dev making these accusations?

Can Lisk Devs clear up these accusations?

Im all against FUD but I know Litoshi was close with the XCR team.

If this is false true or whatever I do like to hear an explanation about this from the Lisk team.

LiskisSCAM has a micro baby penis and yeah, Germany is expensive.

[captainvest]

Actually what you're saying here doesn't hold much merit. First, you can exchange your old crypti coins for new Lisk. If it was a scam you'd be SOL on that. If you sold them all, well that's not Lisk's problem.

I personally invest in companies. I see this all the time where executives wrap up an old biz to restart a new one. Current investors who are still invested are carried over. They aren't cutting them loose. It's a bit different in the world of companies, as investors tend to be controlling much of the say, but if you own a stock in a company, you typically don't have a say as to how things are restructured. You do have a say in whether you want to sell your stock based on the news, hold, or buy more. It's really the same idea.

Take the information. If you think moving to a new project and transferring old coin holders to the new is not "fair" then you should probably not invest in the project. If you see innovation, a better future based on restructuring efforts, and think there is value in the project then you should invest. It's your call. But to keep going around and calling it a scam is a bit silly.

[MalReynolds]

I already sold my 3 million XCR.  Got 2000plus satoshis for it months ago.  I no longer have any financial interest in XCR, so I can speak the truth without fear of a price crash in XCR.  

Dude.  (Ugly) Open Source Fork Is Not A Crime.  If you have no dog in this XCR / LISK fight, sing Let It Go <Michael Bay version> and leave this thread to watch some sunsets....
[/quote]

If you sold them all, well that's not Lisk's problem.

NOW I understand why Litoshi / LISKisSCAM shows up in the last few days of the ICO!

Bye, Latoshi, see ya in the rear view mirror as Lisk blasts off to heights you will never be a part of because you lacked the faith to stick it out through the rough times.

[someonesomeone]

I just found out how to use the ignore button on this forum. Makes things easier so I don't have to read all the red text and BS.

As for a question, I would also like to know how the devs plan to use the funds that they raise. If it were me and I would have $2m to use I would do it like this:

$1,25m for hiring more developers
$500k for grants to app developers (bounties and incentives for their development) for example, I would offer a 100k reward to the first app that gets to 100k users or something like that (or the first one to process 100k transactions or something similar)
$250k for marketing

I think that the essential thing is to get many developers interested in this platform and also develop your own dapps and improvements to the platform.

[captainvest]

DEVS DO NOT REPLY MY QUESTIONS AND THE OTHERS ABOUT MANY USERS ASKING THE SAME THING.

They have been answered over and over and over and over again. Check out their website.

DEVS LEFT AND DUMPED XCR TO SWTICH TO THIS BTC-STEAL MONEY (4000+ BTC WITH NO HARD CAP = JOKE THE INVESTORS!!!)

Not a legit argument. Old coins are exchanged for the new. If they were to steal money they would not allow this.

DEVS ARE JUST HYPING UNTIL PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IS ONLY A PONZI LIKE SCHEME AND IT WILL COLLAPSE

Not sure how you can build a ponzi scheme here unless there is fake money from one investor and given to another. Do you know what a ponzi scheme is?

DEVS AND THEIR TEAM: WHOEVER MET THEM IN REAL LIFE?

I have not met in person the team from Google, Microsoft, or many other large companies. However, I have bought these stocks.

LISK LAWYER: WHICH IS THE LAWYER STUDIO WHERE HE WORKS? WHERE IS THE LEGAL CERTIFICATION ABOUT IT'S JOB?

That might actually be helpful to see.

WHY MAX-SCAMMER DID NOT IMPROVED CRYPTI AND STARTED NEW ICO STEALING COIN?

It sounds like the team may have had disagreements or simply needed a rebranding campaign. It's common to see restructuring efforts in all industries. It's what drives growth. I'm not certain how this is stealing though. 4000+ btc is not in the hands of the devs. Not sure where you are getting this. These are going to be issued back to investors in the form of LISK coins and placed on an exchange.