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[el kaka22]

This is practice, there are rarely any teams showing their real power during these periods, they will of course end up doing something as low as possible, and just test the systems. They end up adjusting everything during these periods so that they would not get penalty for changing it later on. This is known by any F1 really, the results of practice means literally nothing, absolutely nothing at all.

I believe that it is going to be probably another boring max win. I am not complaining, we had 7-8 years of Mercedes domination, so it is cool to at least see some other teams do well for a change, and I am guessing that even with the changes, the bouncing is still there for Mercedes hence why they will not be great.

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Carlos Sainz took pole position for the first time. He made his best time in the last lap and finished the qualifying laps as the leader. Weather conditions were quite challenging, both visibility and handling were difficult due to rain and fog. Again, it will be a race where Ferrari and RB Racing will start in the top four. Latifi last on P3, that was surprising. Zhou raised his performance so him lasting on P3 wasn't surprising result anymore.
I'm sure we will watch a good race tomorrow. If the weather is like this again, interesting results may occur. Will Sainz be able to maintain the lead or will we see another Verstappen victory? It's going to be very exciting.

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Heavy rain today, Sainz got the poleposition!


1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m40.190s   1m41.602s   1m40.983s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m39.129s   1m40.655s   1m41.055s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m39.846s   1m41.247s   1m41.298s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m40.521s   1m42.513s   1m41.616s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.428s   1m41.062s   1m41.995s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.515s   1m41.821s   1m42.084s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.598s   1m42.209s   1m42.116s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.028s   1m41.725s   1m42.161s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m40.791s   1m42.640s   1m42.719s
10   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m41.998s   1m43.273s   2m03.095s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.680s   1m43.702s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m41.396s   1m44.232s   
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.893s   1m44.311s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.933s   1m44.355s   
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.730s   1m45.190s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m42.078s       
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m42.159s       
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m42.666s       
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m42.708s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.430s       


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007087/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Gratz to Latifi too 1st time in q3

[swogerino]

Heavy rain today, Sainz got the poleposition!


1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m40.190s   1m41.602s   1m40.983s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m39.129s   1m40.655s   1m41.055s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m39.846s   1m41.247s   1m41.298s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m40.521s   1m42.513s   1m41.616s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.428s   1m41.062s   1m41.995s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.515s   1m41.821s   1m42.084s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.598s   1m42.209s   1m42.116s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.028s   1m41.725s   1m42.161s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m40.791s   1m42.640s   1m42.719s
10   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m41.998s   1m43.273s   2m03.095s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.680s   1m43.702s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m41.396s   1m44.232s   
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.893s   1m44.311s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.933s   1m44.355s   
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.730s   1m45.190s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m42.078s       
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m42.159s       
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m42.666s       
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m42.708s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.430s       


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007087/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Gratz to Latifi too 1st time in q3

Well done to Sainz for his first Pole in his F1 career,it was about time although it was because of the yellow flags that stopped Max by doing the fast third sector,he was much faster than Sainz in the 2 first sectors of the track,nevertheless no one will remember how the weather was,all will remember Sainz F1 first career pole.

For the race though as Max said in the post qualifying interview the car was in excellent condition and much faster per lap than Ferrari so I see no real contention to the race tomorrow,if they don't crash intentionally or unintentionally at the first turn then most probably a Redbull car will win the race.This was in this difficult conditions,I can only imagine if there is no rain tomorrow that Redbull to be even faster than today and that massive upgrade Ferrari team director was saying looks like it was a true thing.

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Heavy rain today, Sainz got the poleposition!


1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m40.190s   1m41.602s   1m40.983s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m39.129s   1m40.655s   1m41.055s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m39.846s   1m41.247s   1m41.298s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m40.521s   1m42.513s   1m41.616s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.428s   1m41.062s   1m41.995s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.515s   1m41.821s   1m42.084s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.598s   1m42.209s   1m42.116s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m40.028s   1m41.725s   1m42.161s
9   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m40.791s   1m42.640s   1m42.719s
10   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m41.998s   1m43.273s   2m03.095s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.680s   1m43.702s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m41.396s   1m44.232s   
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m41.893s   1m44.311s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m41.933s   1m44.355s   
15   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m41.730s   1m45.190s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m42.078s       
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m42.159s       
18   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m42.666s       
19   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m42.708s       
20   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.430s       


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1007087/1/f1-2022-british-grand-prix-full-qualifying-results

Gratz to Latifi too 1st time in q3

Yeah the track was so wet at the start of qualifying but kinda improved a bit towards the end but still wet to not put the slicks on.  I hope it's dry and sunny tomorrow so we could have a proper race at Silverstone.  I was kinda hoping Hamilton would get P3 for some Verstappen vs Hamilton action after what happened last year. 

And congrats to Sainz!  He looks more handsome after getting P1. 



But I just want to post one thing...  Latifi meme!

[Koal-84]

A bit surprising but I'm very happy for Sainz for his first pole position in his Formula 1 career. Maybe he had not managed it under normal track conditions? But it doesn't matter and Verstappen caused his spin himself. I would also be happy about his first victory in Formula 1.

[Slow death]

Carlos Sainz took pole position for the first time.

I like racing cars and motorcycles but in recent years I stopped following this sport, but today just when I was going to read news about this sport I see on all news channels about this guy Carlos Sainz who won pole position for the first time, luck his but the question is if he will be able to keep up with this rhythm of victories

I'm sure we will watch a good race tomorrow.

as a Lewis Hamilton fan I will watch tomorrow's race for a few minutes, due to the time difference the race will be at a time when I like to sleep so I will only watch a few minutes, but I will bet on Verstappen

Will Sainz be able to maintain the lead or will we see another Verstappen victory? It's going to be very exciting.

in my opinion (an amateur's opinion) Verstappen wins, at least from the few things I was able to research as a beginner in the world of car and motorcycle racing betting

[FanEagle]

Mercedes really should start considering about next year's car. They are not going to do anything that matters, at least get something beneficial and start building on next year's car. If they do that, they may lose some points this year, but they could be awesome next season which is what matters.

Why be mediocre for two seasons, when you can suck one year but win a title or at least fight for it next year? Williams is basically doing that right now, changing so much of the car in the middle of the season means that they are in testing process already and do not care about results as in winning but care about data results to see what they need to do in order to get better.

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A bit surprising but I'm very happy for Sainz for his first pole position in his Formula 1 career. Maybe he had not managed it under normal track conditions? But it doesn't matter and Verstappen caused his spin himself. I would also be happy about his first victory in Formula 1.

Yeah, he was in the right moment at the right time.

But Sainz is a great driver in wet conditions, tomorrow will be hard if it will be dry, RBR seems stronger on this track to me.

[MonsterV]

Verstappen did not take pole, but does it really matter for the Dutchman where he starts? The last 7 races of that he won 6 I think and is almost unstoppable when they really start racing. Sainz has of course done an excellent job with his pole position, but in principle Verstappen will just pass that tomorrow. There will be some pressure, especially for Hamilton, he now has to show what kind of stuff he is made of. And of course he has the support of the home crowd. I think Verstappen 1, Leclerc 2 and Perez 3

[LTU_btc]

Finally it's first pole for Sainz. But I'm afraid that he won't be able to convert it into first win. Today we had rainy condition, tomorrow it should be dry track, so, big factor of unexpected outcomes is gone. Max have everything in his hand to take another win.
But real hero of today is Latifi or GOATifi. First time in Top 10, 22 seconds behind the leader .

[Cnut237]

Verstappen did not take pole, but does it really matter for the Dutchman where he starts? The last 7 races of that he won 6 I think and is almost unstoppable when they really start racing. Sainz has of course done an excellent job with his pole position, but in principle Verstappen will just pass that tomorrow. There will be some pressure, especially for Hamilton, he now has to show what kind of stuff he is made of. And of course he has the support of the home crowd. I think Verstappen 1, Leclerc 2 and Perez 3

Ferrari can oftn beat the Red Bull in qualifying pace, but no car can get near the Red Bull in full race pace. Yes, expect another Max win, relatively unchallenged.
I'd disagree about Hamilton, I think there's zero pressure on him. He's shown what he's made of many times before... but this season his pace is limited due to the car. I don't give him much chance really, unless it rains, which is where the better drivers often get a chance to shine.

But yeah, Max 1, Leclerc 2, and then third to whichever second-string driver out of Perez and Sainz can manage to demonstrate a degree of competence. Merc 5 and 6 unless Ferrari retirements bump them up the order.

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Image source: brake.gp
 

There have been four incidents in MotoGP in the first half of the season that have gone unpunished. However, the latest incident involving two riders who are at the top of the standings is currently being penalized for certain reasons. Hopefully the competition to win the world championship this season is still in the category of fun and interesting to watch and hopefully no more incidents that can harm fellow riders occur in the second half of the season.

[lulumiya]

There is less than an hour to go. Silverstone GP is close to us and I'm really excited. It is expected to rain only before the race as far as I see in a weather report for Silverstone. There is a slight possibility for it to rain during the race too but it isn't much likely. After watching qualifying under heavy rain I started to think that it would be more delightful to watch this race in a similar condition.    If it doesn't rain then I won't be expecting big surprises in this race in normal conditions. I'll be watching Sainz closely also after this pole.

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And I have no idea why I lol'd at this one...

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One of the biggest crashes happened and we didn't even see the replay yet. All I saw from Twitter feed is that Zhou's situation is critical. His car is flipped and he hit the barriers.
https://twitter.com/xRelbug/status/1543598614639001601
Good news are coming, I guess he's out of the car conscious. It's worrying we haven't seen him yet though. We had a pretty scary 2 seconds of footage.
Verstappen took the lead, Hamilton started well but it doesn't matter at this point. We'll see when the race continues.

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^ Yup!  I just saw the replay and...  Holy shit!  If the cars didn't have the halo I think Zhou would've died right there on the spot.  I mean wow.  And I was the one who said the halos sucked when they came out.  Lol.  I change my opinion of the halo.  They're obv good for the safety of the drivers.

Anyway Verstappen and Hamilton are too good for this grid.

Edit:  Oh man..  Lololol.  I'm telling you guys, Formula Dank is a riot. 



Get in here!

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Sainz will start again in P1 even if has been overtaken by Max.

He may change his tires now so he should start faster.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah sucks.  But it would be kinda boring if Verstappen is gonna be upfront.  It would be too easy for him.  And are they allowed to change tires during a restart because of the red flag?  I feel more for Hamilton than Verstappen.  Hamilton started really good from P5.

And...  Here's another one.  



Edit:  Sainz choked.

[LTU_btc]

It was such good race that's difficult to summarize everything in one post. That fight in last laps. Sainz, Perez, Hamilton, Leclerc and even Alonso got involved - it was amazing to watch.. Finally first win for Sainz - it's well deserved. I'm a bit surprised that Perez didn't got penalty - he pushed his opponents out of track twice. And very solid race from Hamilton. Ferrari strategy again leaves questions, why they didn't changed tyres for Leclerc during safety car?
And first carrer points for Mick, P8 is very solid result and he was so close to overtake Verstappen. This result isn't lucky coincidence, he really had good pace.

One of the biggest crashes happened and we didn't even see the replay yet.

I think it's normal thing that they didn't showed replay until they know that driver is ok. They're doing same after all big crashes. And after they showed it - that crash was worse than I thought. The way how Zhou car flew into barriers and fence was so scary. It's incredible that after such crash he ended without serious injuries
@tokeweed, initially I didn't like Halo too, but I already changed my mind few seasons ago. I already lost count how many lifes it already saved.