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If you as a user in my bank receive coins that originate from a stolen address, MY BANK WILL BLOCK YOUR SAVINGS until you send in the information about who owns that address.
Why would anyone use your bank, if they could suffer the same sort of account freezing that is driving so many people away from fiat banks? And you're not even saying you would do it only if ordered by a court. You're saying you'll do it to further your own vigilantist agenda. It was just an example. One day you might get your wallet stolen, then you'll wish everyone used my bank. But again you miss the point; which is that we can and should make bitcoin unstealable!
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April 20, 2013, 07:48:56 AM |
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Just to clarify, I am "Toil", "Josh Rogers", " logsarehere@gmail.com", owner of " www.bugabuse.net", etc. Upon receiving some tweets, I found this thread that is talking about me. 1) I'm not 23/24(wat?), I'm only 15 years of age. 2) I have a pretty good feeling of who would have done this, as I rustle his jimmies immensely. 3) If the owner of Ozcoin wants to contact me, he can. 4) It seems that most of you are a lot smarter than others that I've come across(realizing that, why the hell would I put my name and email on there..?) 5) If anybody is interested in who I believe did this - https://paste.bugabuse.net/view/295bf80bWhat led you to believe that "Shane" is behind this?
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April 20, 2013, 08:15:25 AM Last edit: April 21, 2013, 11:28:18 AM by Derringer |
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StrongCoin is a hosted wallet service that deducts 1% fee from every spend, 0.5% to the StrongCoin fee-drop and 0.5% to the miner that confirms the transaction. They're apparently a fairly well built hosted wallet in that private keys are only ever decrypted in the client's browser, but also have the atypical habit of returning change to one of the original source addresses rather than a new address.
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April 20, 2013, 11:09:48 AM |
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Haven't had a chance to read all the posts, but wanted to post an update I have main server at home upgraded to ssd drives (might as well take the opportunity) reinstalled and now setting up ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) looking to have it back up tomorrow morning my time I have the old HDDs from the server to recover data and also do some forensics, planning to report the theft to authorities Thanks again to ppl tracking coins, sending messages of support and offers of help - the gems in our community are shining out ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Best wishes and thanks for the support Graeme
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April 20, 2013, 11:33:02 AM |
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looking forward to coming back. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 20, 2013, 11:55:56 AM |
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Hi folks, just read what happened this morning and was totally shocked. Whoever did this please reconsider what you've done and return those stolen coins. Graet and the ozcoin Team behind really helped Bitcoin to become what it is today and what it'll be tomorrow. Open letter to the hacker behind it: I'am sure almost all pool out there need experienced hacker like you to secure those servers and websites. Pool operators would also willing to pay you - if you discover security issues. You could use your skills and get rewarded without beeing a criminal. I don't give up hope that you reconsider your actions and make things right. Great clearly doesn't deserve what you did to him. I really wan't to help Graet out of this situation and just setup a p2pool node with 100% fee for ozcoin donations. If you wan't to donate a hashes to Graet and help him out while ozcoin is down just point your miners to:url: http://yourbtc.net:9332username: whateveryoulike password: whateveryoulike p2pool Webinterface: http://yourbtc.net:9332/static/Mining rewards will be send via p2pool to ozcoins donation address: 1Gzcbs8dDYzf16qFWKHc5kWKuH8nji3pVt Best wishes and still alive, roomservice
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April 20, 2013, 12:04:36 PM |
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Just to clarify, I am "Toil", "Josh Rogers", " logsarehere@gmail.com", owner of " www.bugabuse.net", etc. Upon receiving some tweets, I found this thread that is talking about me. 1) I'm not 23/24(wat?), I'm only 15 years of age. 2) I have a pretty good feeling of who would have done this, as I rustle his jimmies immensely. 3) If the owner of Ozcoin wants to contact me, he can. 4) It seems that most of you are a lot smarter than others that I've come across(realizing that, why the hell would I put my name and email on there..?) 5) If anybody is interested in who I believe did this - https://paste.bugabuse.net/view/295bf80bWhat led you to believe that "Shane" is behind this? He always pays people to hack for him. I actually doubt he was the one that gained access etc, but I believe that he is the one that 'defaced' it. Few days ago I got some logs of a private conversation between a few of them, how they were going to "Fuck me up". I really rustled his jimmies. ... so ... your someone how normally does this sort of shit, but when it becomes something that will become the target of a legal investigation you suddenly are all "OMG it wasn't me"? I guess you've never heard the term "What goes around comes around" You (and your web site) are indeed a target for requesting the police to follow up and question ... and hopefully that will happen.
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April 20, 2013, 01:37:02 PM |
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There's a major difference between 'hacking' a website, and stealing $100,000 worth of items. Who in the world would steal $100,000, then put their email on it..? And my website has been investigated by the police before, and nothing came of it. [/quote] Let's not forget this person listed as "Toil" here may not be the real Toil, and could be any one of us, including the real hacker who wants to continue the blame game. M
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April 20, 2013, 01:44:00 PM |
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... There's a major difference between 'hacking' a website, and stealing $100,000 worth of items.
Who in the world would steal $100,000, then put their email on it..?
And my website has been investigated by the police before, and nothing came of it.
Well I could word it this way - who would be stupid enough to hack a business' web site for jollies and put it out of commission. Each person has a different opinion of stupidity. The law, on the other hand, has a very specific opinion.
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April 20, 2013, 01:58:49 PM |
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I will personally shame anyone who calls such a thing a cash grab by the pool.
Nobody except 16cDeEFn6sraUEJrDCt2Yg3r7j2oazSYEd knows who took that money. That's why we have to track where the money flows, let's follow the trail. Following the BTC trail and trying to work out who did it - yes that is good. Claiming anyone who receives any of that BTC, a few, dozens or hundreds of transactions down the chain, and thus is a criminal unless they hand over details of who they got the BTC from (that they clearly will not know in most cases and also in many cases that is against the law in most countries that consider the rights of people above the rights of the state) is not only a knee-jerk ridiculous idea, it is also incorrect, oppressive and a step in the direction of giving away control of BTC (to morons) Fortunately you have no such power. I think you have a good point here, the method can return all transactions between your address and the stolen address. Each person can then judge if he/she wants to see it as a problem depending on how it's tainted (hops/time etc.).
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April 20, 2013, 05:50:28 PM |
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Hi folks, just read what happened this morning and was totally shocked. Whoever did this please reconsider what you've done and return those stolen coins. Graet and the ozcoin Team behind really helped Bitcoin to become what it is today and what it'll be tomorrow. Open letter to the hacker behind it: I'am sure almost all pool out there need experienced hacker like you to secure those servers and websites. Pool operators would also willing to pay you - if you discover security issues. You could use your skills and get rewarded without beeing a criminal. I don't give up hope that you reconsider your actions and make things right. Great clearly doesn't deserve what you did to him. I really wan't to help Graet out of this situation and just setup a p2pool node with 100% fee for ozcoin donations. If you wan't to donate a hashes to Graet and help him out while ozcoin is down just point your miners to:url: http://yourbtc.net:9332username: whateveryoulike password: whateveryoulike p2pool Webinterface: http://yourbtc.net:9332/static/Mining rewards will be send via p2pool to ozcoins donation address: 1Gzcbs8dDYzf16qFWKHc5kWKuH8nji3pVt Best wishes and still alive, roomservice +1
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April 20, 2013, 11:35:58 PM |
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People still mining now @ ozco.in, the following information might be important for you (cut out inrevelevant messages, from IRC); [01:22:12] <+Caesium> x: no, ozco is not recording hashes atm, aiui if you're mining on ozco atm you're effectively donating hashes [01:28:25] <Mikej0h> since when is that "donating" enabled? [01:29:01] <+elgrecoFL> Since the server went down and there was no ability to record hashes. [01:31:20] * Jezzz changes topic to 'Ozcoin for Bitcoin and Litecoin mining | BTC Site OFFLINE - *** If you are mining BTC you are donating. Your help is appreciated. *** | https://lc.ozcoin.net for website ltc stratum is now located http://spare.ozco.in:9333| bait = NSFW | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14085.msg1883478#msg1883478 for information about the current situation'
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April 21, 2013, 03:12:21 AM Last edit: April 21, 2013, 03:26:39 AM by Graet |
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An update due to confusion over IRC topic change while I was asleep
All shares are being cached on mining nodes and can be counted and paid miners will be given the option to be paid or help the pool by donating some (or all) back
Miners with ANY concerns should use another pool in the interim
we are doing our best to get the server back online asap, talk to authorities and others re stolen coins and generally get the pool back on track
I will post another update when I have news Thank you Graeme
Edit: while database server is offline I intend to do some updates on the mining nodes - this may entail some nodes going offline for a few minutes
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April 21, 2013, 03:28:56 AM |
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IM BATMAN!
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April 21, 2013, 03:34:40 AM |
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IM BATMAN!
Compromised account? Might explain a number of things if a similar/same password was used for the coding he did.
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April 21, 2013, 03:36:30 AM |
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Good to see you're on top of things Graet, and getting back on track. Would be disappointing to see Ozcoin go.
As soon as you are 100% I'll point my wee little miner back to Ozcoin. I'll be sure to up the donations.
Good luck with it all.
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April 21, 2013, 04:14:28 AM |
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IM BATMAN!
Compromised account? Might explain a number of things if a similar/same password was used for the coding he did. No just Wayno being Wayno In other news the police computer crime division only works Monday to Friday 9am -5pm, I'll call again during office hours
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April 21, 2013, 04:15:24 AM |
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IM BATMAN!
Compromised account? Might explain a number of things if a similar/same password was used for the coding he did. lmfao completely different passwords here. i was bored.
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April 21, 2013, 04:18:24 AM |
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Okay, sorry I freaked. I've been spending the better half of today tracking down various Runescape hackers dealing in Bitcoin.
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