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July 25, 2016, 10:08:00 AM
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Here is my opinion

The problem was DAO because it has been hacked and now it is a problem of Ethereum because there was a fork ...
DAO is the problem and the price of DAO is still nothing! DAO must disappear from the market!!!
Only the old ETH chain is the only true and real chain!!!
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July 25, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
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Hm, no one is answering my question about ETH in exchanges, in my case Kraken, but isn't it possible that the exchange(s) can dump my ETH prior the fork (converted into ETC) at the Polo exchange?
I am not that good in crypto, but I found out some strange (at least for me) transactions:
1. My ETH Kraken address according to etherchain.org has only the amount I mined/deposited after the HF;
2. I seems to have 1 (one) transaction 6 days ago (19.07) - to the following address: 0x53d284357ec70cE289D6D64134DfAc8E511c8a3D. The amount is 2144.0360455659216 Ether. For sure I did not have so much ETH at that time. I suppose it is the overall amount of ETH I have deposited in my Kraken account.
3. As you can see, the "recepient" address is empty - with one big transaction (8335689 Ether) to 0x341e790174e3A4D35b65fdC067B6b5634A61caEA. This has do something with fork, but as I said, I am not that good in crypto, I am just an ordinary miner.
4. This second address is empty too. But the balance is difficult the "read and understand", at least for me. Anyway some coins are heading to Poloniex in the last hour.

So, is this all normal?
Beside other things, at the moment my ETH address in etherchain.org shows 50ETH when Kraken shows 325?! And since these 50ETH are from after HF, where are my rest 275ETH?
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July 25, 2016, 10:22:19 AM
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I also wrote this on the subject:

https://medium.com/@arisAlexis/painfully-strict-logic-d0d1cd0a0a27#.7uhws8d6x
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July 25, 2016, 10:49:37 AM
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Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

Can you explain the math behind your logic here? I'm curious, how does the "thief" now own 80% of ETC?


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July 25, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
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So it's scam or not?
Or this is the original plan of the attacker?


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July 25, 2016, 11:09:38 AM
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Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

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Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.
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July 25, 2016, 11:16:49 AM
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Quick question: Is there a way to mine ETC without downloading Vitalium blockchain?

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July 25, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
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July 25, 2016, 11:18:48 AM
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The hashrate still rising?
Anyone have idea what cause this dump?

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July 25, 2016, 11:23:26 AM
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What dump? the price has been holding like a champ whatever has been thrown at it. don't you see it? it's beautiful!
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July 25, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
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Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??

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July 25, 2016, 11:37:09 AM
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ETC price rock solid! Get in while you can and you'll be an ethereum whale while the forked shitcoin dies.

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July 25, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
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Excuse me, maybe I don't understand so I repeat the question.
 
Cannot this be dumped to nothing by VitalikEther followers?

1)   they have balances in ETHClassic and they will dump them
2)  they can mine ETHClassic with their equipment and they will dump.




One thing I don't understand (related to point 1.)..
If V. Buterin had let's say 1 million ETH before HF does it mean he has now 1 million ETH AND 1 million ETC?

exactly

But this is not the fault of V. Buterin that suddenly a second coin was created, no? This coin should never be created in the first place. Look how it is dropping, the thief is just dumping all his coins on us. He will runaway with $50,000,000 and we will have a worthless coin, correct?

I doubt he is already dumping. He is probably not that stupid.

The dumpers are probably people that do not understand what a hard fork means and consider this "free money" that appeared in their polo account.



What do you meran, not so stupid? The price has been dropping a lot, so most likely he already cash out. This coin is own 80% by the thief. Around 10% was still on this fork, correct? The thief stole for $50M when ETH was trading at 0.02 or so. Now ETC has a marketcap of $60M, how much do you really think is not part of the thief? Also most likely the people that didn't swap forgot about their coins in total. so almost all volume that is being created is coming from the thief. Strange that Poloniex added this coin. Really strange.

Can you explain the math behind your logic here? I'm curious, how does the "thief" now own 80% of ETC?



So much misinformation out there... He probably wanted to say 80% of the DAO ETH, not all the ETH (or now ETC) that exists.

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This is a really good idea for DAO holders that want to go with ETC: https://steemit.com/ethereum/@logical/miscalculations-about-the-endgame-of-the-ethereum-fork-it-ain-t-over-til-it-s-over

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same thing happened to me. mined all evening and last night and i got squat

Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??
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July 25, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
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Nanopool is giving me much less shares than other pools.
Someone else has the same "effect"?
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same thing happened to me. mined all evening and last night and i got squat

Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

Yes thats true , but think about it for each transaction i pay fee and for the second thing what is your address that you used to mine on my pool ??


Last night my wallet got out of sync and mined stale blocks, i was sleeping while the problem come up, when I woke up i restarted the wallet , right now i see the wallet is stable, i will keep an eye on it all the day so this problem wont happen again

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July 25, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
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Coin miners ETC pool update: i have raised the min payout to 1 ETC thats because on poloniex the minimum amount for deposit is 1 ETC and some miners mine with their poloniex address

This is not true , you must have a balance of 1 ETC on poloniex for any transaction to show, not the amount you send must be 1 ETC, if your balance IS +1 ETC on poloniex any amount you send will go through ok , just a fyi

something is also wrong with the pools ethc.coin-miners.info i mined 100mh/s for 6 hours straight , system says 0.23 earned and paid out , it did not arrive , and http://ethc.epool.io/ mined with 70 mh/s for 12+ hours , hardly earned anything and still no payout on pending balance ( its been pending 2 days ) supposed to be once a day payout.

You may have something wrong with your config. All of the ETC I have mined on coin-miners are in my wallet.
Been on there for about 18 hours now.
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