[ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts

[ozie]

Etc will have everything eth does + immutablity

Haven't heard back from pumphertits since your comment. Maybe it's starting to sink in that ETC can inherit any feature developed for ETH. It's called code merging.

Well ETC can merge any code not relying on a hard fork to implement that specific feature. If i where this twitchy alien russian i would only make hard fork changes from now on 

What i am really courious about is how ETC will fix the code in the PoW Algorithm that artificially boosts difficulty in preparation for the PoS transition.
This fix might need a hard fork as far as i know.

So it seems this coin has a very limited life span or it has to say goodbye to immutablity too at some point.

[tZKtdvt6]

Hello everybody!,
myEtherwallet v.2.9 now with ETC and ETH, two are better than only one, aren't they?.

https://www.myetherwallet.com/

Good luck and happy summer to  all!.

[olib123]

Can i solo mine ETC ? Ex. other coins ( exp or eth ).

[tZKtdvt6]

Someone can post a mine calculator? I need know how many etc / ghs i can earn
Thx

Im currently getting 13ETC with 300MH

1.8 ETC/day 38MH/s at nanopool.

You can calculate your earnings with this great software:

https://badmofo.github.io/ethereum-mining-calculator/

Only fill with the correct values that are given at, for example: http://gastracker.io/

And your custom and personal total hasrate, ready to it?

The best regards to all and great profit too!.

[suchmoon]

Etc will have everything eth does + immutablity

Haven't heard back from pumphertits since your comment. Maybe it's starting to sink in that ETC can inherit any feature developed for ETH. It's called code merging.

Well ETC can merge any code not relying on a hard fork to implement that specific feature. If i where this twitchy alien russian i would only make hard fork changes from now on 

What i am really courious about is how ETC will fix the code in the PoW Algorithm that artificially boosts difficulty in preparation for the PoS transition.
This fix might need a hard fork as far as i know.

So it seems this coin has a very limited life span or it has to say goodbye to immutablity too at some point.

A hardfork to remove the diff bomb doesn't affect existing transactions on the blockchain. It could be done and it would still remain immutable.

[greenuser]

We need to sort the diff bomb asap

Anyhow....

Have you read this.  ETH plan to 51% attack ETC

https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-attack-classic/

I went to.... https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p1

where the attack is being planned, as i am a member but my posting is being held back by moderators.

[greenuser]

Maybe https://forum.ethereum.org support the 51% attack on Classic and want it to go ahead and are not letting me post.

I was just going to point out that it is being reported on by the crypto press already.

[dloghwak]

We need to sort the diff bomb asap

Anyhow....

Have you read this.  ETH plan to 51% attack ETC

https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-attack-classic/

I went to.... https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p1

where the attack is being planned, as i am a member but my posting is being held back by moderators.

Just support the network and start mining.

[greenuser]

We need to sort the diff bomb asap

Anyhow....

Have you read this.  ETH plan to 51% attack ETC

https://news.bitcoin.com/ethereum-attack-classic/

I went to.... https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8679/51-attack-pool-against-etc/p1

where the attack is being planned, as i am a member but my posting is being held back by moderators.

Just support the network and start mining.

Running at etc.nanopool.org and have been since they made ETC available to mine there

Also, running full node on my server 24/7

I don't support anyone attacking anyone but people need to be aware. 

[suchmoon]

Maybe https://forum.ethereum.org support the 51% attack on Classic and want it to go ahead and are not letting me post.

I was just going to point out that it is being reported on by the crypto press already.

Brilliant idea to discuss it in public. Such a nice community too  

[LeChuckDE]

By the way.

http://etc.coinpool.biz now full supporting NiceHash !
Please use your ETC Address for Username and !!very important!! # as password

Hi folks,

FYI, after pointing 230 MH at ETC on the Suprnova pool for 24 hours and then also on the CoinPool pool for 24 hours, I think I prefer this little pool at CoinPool.  That said, we should get a little more hashing to join us to keep things flowing more consistently.  Say about 2-3 GH?  That would be a nice number from my perspective...  Anyway, I should mention that the performance issues I saw with my Claymore minors on Suprnova could have been due to non-optimal config.

To help, this is how I'm configured on CoinPool and SiaMining.  I'm getting expected hash rates from Claymore on both ETC and SIA:


ClaymoreConfig.txt:

; CLAYMORE DUAL MINER SET-UP FOR Eth Classic on CoinPool:
-epool etc.coinpool.biz:7887
-ewal 0x14624e2889B165b2b459D48e3c7BA3dC75bD1E10
-eworker RigName
-epsw x
-esm 0
-allcoins 1
-erate 0
# CLAYMORE DUAL MINER SET-UP FOR SiaCoin on SiaMining:
-mode 0
-dpool http://siamining.com:9980/miner/header?address=d8573b70ee4fc60bff69489d7879f481262ce8cb22ca93cb9aee9fb7cc4ab89d871e9c7d5bfd&worker=RigName
-dcoin sia


ClaymoreMining.bat:

EthDcrMiner64.exe ClaymoreConfig.txt


Watch your temps as Claymore squeezes every last drop of processing out of your GPUs...

Of couse, you'll want to adjust for your own accounts and rig names.

Although you can feel free to test the above and tip me for the help if you want...  

Thanks for the warm words.

do my best to configure pool at best performance. now it is optimized for miners 400 MH/s and below. The Greate pools are on to high diff for miners in range 2 - 100 mh/s total suboptimal.
they get only peanuts and it take days to could payed out.

today i helped a user with only 40 - 50 mh/s. got at time 0,55 etc payed out and hold 7 % at next block. we are now 12 miners at 1,2 GHs in total.bad luck at time one orphaned and this block is at 220 % but overall 79 % variance it seems that etc network are under attack most wallets get stuck at 196600 - 650 and needs a node restart to work propper... at time i am monitoring pool blockno agains 2 reference blockchains and get an alert when it is diff over 4 blocks so that i could take action asap.

DDOS protection works like a charm, since yesterday my pool is under fire but only some hickups at webfrontend, mining isn't interrupted or slowed down. most attacking ips are blocked within max 10 sec. hardware-firewall between server and internetconnection ... DDOS - Protection agains ping flood, synflood-attack, rpc-maleformed-attack etc. seems all things working well and performant.
every german attacking IP will be reported to Bundesnetzagentur (Germany Authority for Telecommunications) they will investigate and cut off the internet connection by law.

I mined for 24h now with 4x R9 280x eth-proxy says 83MH/s.
Got this:

Pending Balance: 0.70575871
Total Paid: 0.58362648

I turn my miner off. This does not pay out for me. Pool is great anyway, lots of shares.

nope your hashrate was ~42MH/s at pool and many duplicate shares produced due eth-proxy, seems to be that eth-proxy do not split unike work to each gpu ....
smallest miner from 11 miner all other 120 - 300 MH/s at 1,2 GH/s overall hashrate at pool. in this time you have mined, we have bad luck 1 orphaned, 1x 1.25 Uncle and 4 high variance blocks so overall you would earn more by permanent mining, variance at your time was above 450 % overall variance is 106 % (yesterday there was some hickups in blockchain) over long time poolhopping will reduce profit...
mining constant for 24 hrs and get Total Paid: 23.41854256 ETC (constant 250 MH/s for 24hrs.) at normal circustances you hat get ~ 4 ETC in 24 hrs.
but variance is not possible to modify it is a lucky game to find blocks under estimated 100%.

see timeframe from    28.7.2016, 12:05:36 to    28.7.2016, 12:05:36 variance was at 35 % ~ (this time hashrate goes up and rise network diff.)
at time nethash is lowering but it takes time that networkdiff goes also down. low networkhash + high network diff = more shares are needed to find a block.

at time i am testing to implement different stratum ports depending on the minerhashrate. will be soon 3 each pool 2 - 100 MH/s low diff, 100 - 300 MH/s diff 0.2, 350 MH/s + 0.4 diff at time testing with 3 GH/s at 0.4 only a invalide share (duplicate share) rate from under 1 %

pool is still in development and will get optimized to get max performance for miners

Sorry, but I'm mining now on digger for about 5h and got the following results:

Immature Balance: 0.06160120
Pending Balance: 0.16530823
Total Paid: 0.62483835

Looks way better, ain't it?
But thanks for your support, which was great

update. now you have earned with your ~ 7 % pool share avg. ~ 2,5 ETC in 5,5 hrs.
only an example that the time to earn isn't fix, only long term give you the calculate avg. income.

[Longsnowsm]

Maybe https://forum.ethereum.org support the 51% attack on Classic and want it to go ahead and are not letting me post.

I was just going to point out that it is being reported on by the crypto press already.

Brilliant idea to discuss it in public. Such a nice community too  

In an article Bitpop posted yesterday it appears from the screen shots that they fully intend to use the replay attacks against ETC.  The whole thing really looks bad.  I hope that the more of these conversations are posted and the crypto community as a whole gets the gist of the kinds of people we are dealing with.  If they don't get their way they will burn the place down is just about the way it reads.

[redsn0w]

@bitpop,

please change the logo in the first post.
https://github.com/ethereumclassic/ethereumclassic.github.io/pull/14




https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/20253748




https://i.imgur.com/ccQKiQ3.png



Thanks !

[suchmoon]

Maybe https://forum.ethereum.org support the 51% attack on Classic and want it to go ahead and are not letting me post.

I was just going to point out that it is being reported on by the crypto press already.

Brilliant idea to discuss it in public. Such a nice community too  

In an article Bitpop posted yesterday it appears from the screen shots that they fully intend to use the replay attacks against ETC.  The whole thing really looks bad.  I hope that the more of these conversations are posted and the crypto community as a whole gets the gist of the kinds of people we are dealing with.  If they don't get their way they will burn the place down is just about the way it reads.

I'm starting to get a feeling that all this posturing is just an attempt to affect the price. I mean how dumb would one have to be to organize a 51% attack on a public forum, or like that that nobody blogger - demand money from the foundation.

[greenuser]

As a CryptoNumismaticist i want both coins to survive.  However, i am guessing that the ETH foundation support the attack as i am getting my posts intercepted by mods. All i tryed to post was along the lines of "Think long and hard, the world is watching and so are the crypto press and you are publishing your intentions". 

Wow, That is not a good situation. I don't think i want to post there any more now.

Well i am not intending to sell what i am mining so if the price is in for a rough ride, so be it.  I can hold out.

Anyhow, onto a more posative note, Nice artwork redsn0w

Will look cool.  Can't wait to have an All New Original Ethereum Classic Wallet.

[bitpop]

Ethereum has no morals with their centralization, forks, copyrights, trademarks, attacks.

[LeChuckDE]

As a CryptoNumismaticist i want both coins to survive.  However, i am guessing that the ETH foundation support the attack as i am getting my posts intercepted by mods. All i tryed to post was along the lines of "Think long and hard, the world is watching and so are the crypto press and you are publishing your intentions".  

Wow, That is not a good situation. I don't think i want to post there any more now.

Well i am not intending to sell what i am mining so if the price is in for a rough ride, so be it.  I can hold out.

Anyhow, onto a more posative note, Nice artwork redsn0w

Will look cool.  Can't wait to have an All New Original Ethereum Classic Wallet.

shut down my eth.pool now.

All other should do the same !

[Hhampuz]

As a CryptoNumismaticist i want both coins to survive.  However, i am guessing that the ETH foundation support the attack as i am getting my posts intercepted by mods. All i tryed to post was along the lines of "Think long and hard, the world is watching and so are the crypto press and you are publishing your intentions". 

Wow, That is not a good situation. I don't think i want to post there any more now.

Well i am not intending to sell what i am mining so if the price is in for a rough ride, so be it.  I can hold out.

Anyhow, onto a more posative note, Nice artwork redsn0w

Will look cool.  Can't wait to have an All New Original Ethereum Classic Wallet.

shut down my eth.pool now.

All other should do the same !

Good for you mate! In a perfect world many others would follow you in making that decision.

[StarenseN]

@bitpop,

please change the logo in the first post.
https://github.com/ethereumclassic/ethereumclassic.github.io/pull/14




https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/20253748




https://i.imgur.com/ccQKiQ3.png



Thanks !

The logo is brilliant. I mean, one diamond, 2 networks, one bigger (by the number of nodes). Choose your pick

[Chocapic]

Maybe https://forum.ethereum.org support the 51% attack on Classic and want it to go ahead and are not letting me post.

I was just going to point out that it is being reported on by the crypto press already.

Brilliant idea to discuss it in public. Such a nice community too  

And now he is on reddit :
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v7s04/smart_contract_mining_pool_to_fund_51_attack/

Vitalium believers are getting angry, when it doesn't go their way they just want to burn everything.