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November 13, 2016, 03:59:05 AM
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We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?
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November 13, 2016, 05:11:11 AM
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20 years from now there is a decent chance it will still exist, the question is more whether or not it will grow a considerable amount, community wise in the case, or if it is going to simply stagnate somewhere close to where we are currently. The value grows a lot with the community, and shrinks in the same way.
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November 13, 2016, 05:20:56 AM
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I guess It's better to quote the creator of BTC in this case  Roll Eyes from : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48.msg329#msg329

Right.  Otherwise we couldn't have a finite limit of 21 million coins, because there would always need to be some minimum reward for generating.  In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes.  I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.

I don't think that one million dollar is achievable or likely to happen personally but It could be with people losing their coins and halving block reward each four years.

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November 13, 2016, 05:26:49 AM
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It really dependes on how bitcoin is used over the next 5 years, if some killer app appears then bitcoin could take off.  i am hoping that Dotcoms megaupload 2 and bitcache might help that in the newyear.  Wink
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November 13, 2016, 05:27:16 AM
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We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?

I would like to give few scenarios a) let's start with positive. Bitcoin may shootup like say from current high of 1050 to 50-100k possibility or even more than that. All those who have had it will become super rich. It shall be the only legitimate currency.

b) now the worst may happen all countries decide to ban it, and ban it forums. It looses it value to 0.00001. Every thing that was about Bitcoins crashes and people loose their lifes cause of the looses. Again it could also happen but I hope not.

C) There is always a prophecy of a third world War, and who knows Bitcoin could cause it, say one country hoards 95% of it. Then converts it and destroys all the currencies. Anything is now possible but then it's just a theory.

I can think of more but I would be now interested to read the fellow comments, this would be really interesting
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November 13, 2016, 05:29:44 AM
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20 years is quite long time to predict anything accurately, i don't think anybody will be able to know what will happen to bitcoin or what will be the price of bitcoin after 20 years.

If the level of adoption keep on increasing as well as no any security issue/concern arises in middle of those years, price can be really high than current one but 1 million per bitcoin is very hard to reach or almost impossible within 20 years period.

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November 13, 2016, 06:11:49 AM
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I guess It's better to quote the creator of BTC in this case  Roll Eyes from : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48.msg329#msg329

Right.  Otherwise we couldn't have a finite limit of 21 million coins, because there would always need to be some minimum reward for generating.  In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes.  I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.

I don't think that one million dollar is achievable or likely to happen personally but It could be with people losing their coins and halving block reward each four years.

Great quote.

What about the blocksize? If people make a bigger one, it will not generate a lower reward to miners?

I'm sure that users will not let bitcoin die but don't know how big it can be in 20 years.

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November 13, 2016, 07:04:56 AM
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We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?

Any of you mentioned could and can happen,nobody expect 20 years ago that we will reach this kind od advancement,in the future everything is possible and could happen,but I pray the one that it will be worth millions of dollars.

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November 13, 2016, 08:02:32 AM
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We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?
The future of bitcoin seem quite uncertain than any other things, lots of fuds/speculation/hoax going on which are affecting price everytime when price try to get some pump. Manipulation is every where so i don't think price will be 1 million per bitcoin anytime soon not even in next 20 years.
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November 13, 2016, 08:20:49 AM
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Of course nobody can forsee the future.
But I see that bitcoin has a few weaknesses.
I can imagine that with evolving technology a new generation of cryptocurrencies can come up where those weak spots are eleminated. 20 years is enough time for that.
And under those circumstances I do not think bitcoin will be number one crypto currency anymore.
I would say bitcoin has not reached its maximum yet by far. Maybe in 5 years from now.
But I would be surprised if bitcoin is still a big number in 20 years.

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November 13, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
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We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?

There are 100 threads with the same topic here.

You should search and read before asking this.

Nobody can predict the future after 20 years.

Bitcoin might dissapear or might become stronger.

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November 13, 2016, 09:36:30 AM
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I'm still optimistic with bitcoin could continue to grow because bitcoin have the opportunity to continue to rise. Problem I also believe bitcoin prices continue to rise as seen from the fluctuations, bitcoin is likely to continue to rise and it was very good for the future of bitcoin. But bitcoin will have many obstacles. For example, many cases of of theft bitcoin by hackers, it will make it difficult to believe for use bitcoin. Maybe if security is maintained and there is no guarantee of security, bitcoin will be easier to get people to use it. I believe bitcoin next 20 years will still be able to grow and compete with other crypto.
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November 13, 2016, 10:37:01 AM
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It will be surpased by other, more developed crypto currencies. If you look back, two years ago neither Ether not Factom existed. Now they re quite important parts of crypto community. Everything changes.

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November 13, 2016, 10:52:19 AM
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for their system of halving days, bitcoin from year to year will increase the price. maybe in the year 2040, one bitcoin prices could reach up to $ 2,000 - $ 3,000..

 
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November 13, 2016, 11:12:19 AM
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I don't think that one million dollar is achievable or likely to happen personally but It could be with people losing their coins and halving block reward each four years.
Yes, achieving a million dollar value of bitcoin is just dream it's highly highly unlikely to happen 10-20 or even 30 years later not gonna happen, maybe and only a tiny possibility is that with inflation it can but it's still unlikely. So after 20 years that is in 2036 I think of bitcoin remains constant in popularity or increases, then the price can rose up to 10k-20k depending on various factors depending on rise of bitcoin and also on inflation.
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November 13, 2016, 11:49:19 AM
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no one knows future, bitcoin can grow up or dead. if bitcoin grow up until in 20 years for now, of course,bitcoin become a super currency. but bitcoin can disappear if the countries of the world make a rule which makes bitcoin disappear.
no one can prediction bitcoin the future.
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November 13, 2016, 11:51:20 AM
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Bitcoin will grown a lot, but not in a few years. I think it will taken much more than 20 years for bitcoin to reach its potential


It’s still early for bitcoin

Bitcoin is seven years old and it is experiencing many problems that early technologies have experienced. In many respects, even at seven, it is still not even October 13, 1994 for the technology.

Despite this, investors have thrown incredible amounts of money — perhaps too much — at the space. If you were a wallet provider, a remittance company, or a payment processor, investors would give you money. In 2014 and early 2015, starting a bitcoin company was one of the easiest ways to get funding.

There was irrational exuberance. Truthfully, bitcoin didn’t warrant that kind of money from a rational perspective. And yet, investors were throwing it at them primarily because of greed.

And as with all technologies, there are growing pains. Early bitcoin was filled with inefficient companies and poor custodians. Mt. Gox resulted in individuals losing hundreds of millions of dollars collectively. Silk Road made people believe that bitcoin was only for drugs.

Yet bitcoin is growing and that perception is changing. Old exchanges are dead or dying. The next stage of exchanges, such as Coinbase, takes both security and regulation seriously. Millions of dollars are spent on security analysts and individuals to work with regulators. In many cases, companies that are incapable of building out their own secure platforms rely on BitGo, the leading provider of security software in the bitcoin space. The companies built on top of its technology have sent over $1 billion in transactions and not a single penny has been stolen.

Further, the number of users on the network and the number of transactions they send are growing. Companies like Purse, ChangeTip, and ZapChain are offering actual use cases for the technology. Purse enables people to buy goods on Amazon; ChangeTip allows for micro-transactions; and ZapChain is creating an incentive for create high quality discussion.

Bitcoin’s existential crisis

As has been covered by the New York Times and Mike Hearn, bitcoin is going through an existential crisis. But while their message is one of failure, it’s simply another growing pain for the network.

Despite the insistence from many in the bitcoin community to increase the block size, the Core development team has developed its own roadmap on how to scale bitcoin, including an implementation of Segregated Witness via a soft fork. And there’s no denying that scaling is necessary. Presently, bitcoin can only handle about 3 transactions per second (TPS). For bitcoin to become the payment protocol for the Internet, it will need to be able to support more.

Dissatisfied with the proposal put forth by the Core development team, a handful of developers have launched an alternative client for the bitcoin protocol, Bitcoin Classic. The proposal is to hard fork to a 2MB block size, which is double what the block size presently is. Further, the majority of the miners, including Bitmain, Bitfury, and BW.com have agreed to support this hard fork. The largest wallets and exchanges, including Coinbase, Xapo, and Blockchain.info are on board.

What’s clear is that bitcoin is experiencing an existential crisis. What is bitcoin? Should it be a competitor to Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal or should it be a settlement layer with all the major transactions done on a second layer? Can bitcoin remain decentralized and censorship-free if it scales?

While there is certainly a crisis taking place, it’s not one that will result in the death of bitcoin. To say otherwise is to be led by emotion and negativity rather than reality.


The future of bitcoin

What is increasingly likely is that the future of bitcoin is bright. It is the seventh year in the development of this network. It takes years to build out a protocol, which is what bitcoin is. As Joel Spolsky says, “Good software takes 10 years. Get used to it.”

“Bitcoin is comparable to the pre-web-browser 1992-era Internet. This is still the very early days of bitcoin’s life. The base layer protocol is now stable (TCP/IP). Now engineers are building the second layer (HTTP) that makes bitcoin usable for average people and machines,” Jeff Garzik, founder of Bloq and Core developer of bitcoin, told me.

Once the infrastructure is built, which still has many more years ahead of it, with companies like Bloq, BitGo, 21.co, and Coinbase leading the charge, we’ll begin to see solid programs built in the application layer.

But even while we wait for the infrastructure to be built, it’s clear that bitcoin is evolving.

Take mining, for example. There is no doubt that bitcoin mining is enormously centralized, particularly in China with over 50% of the hash rate. However, that is going to change thanks to the efforts of companies like 21.co.

According to the company’s about page, “someone needs to build the full-stack infrastructure for bitcoin, from silicon to software … that someone is us.” In November, the company released its first product, the 21 Bitcoin Computer, which was a dev kit to introduce developers to bitcoin.

Yet, this is the first step. As 21.co improves the design of its chips, it’s possible that it could roll out a router that perpetually mines for you. Or, it could integrate a tiny miner into your cell phone. But this mining is not so that individuals can get rich on the block reward. Rather, the goal is for bitcoin to become the fuel for participating on the Internet.

Right now, if you wanted to do a search on Google, you’d have to trade being inundated with ads and tracking cookies that follow you around the web. A developer could build a search engine over the 21 Bitcoin Computer whereby a user would have to pay a minuscule amount of bitcoin to make their search.

Once you abstract away the idea of procuring bitcoin that sits within a single user’s wallet, our idea of what the Internet is and how it works begins to change. Instead of companies taking individual’s data, those same companies might have to pay a consumer for their data. Want to know that I am a 27-year-old male in New York? That’ll cost 5,000 satoshis, the smallest divisible unit of a bitcoin. In the future, this can all be automated.

What about the killer application that everyone talks about? Taking away the fact that hundreds — if not thousands — of products will be built over the coming years, there are some that have the potential to be the killer app now. Fred Wilson, who I mentioned above, believes that in 2016, “Bitcoin finally finds a killer app with the emergence of Open Bazaar protocol powered zero take rate marketplaces.”

And none of this even touches on the potential for bitcoin to help the underserved markets of the world. While remittance has yet to be solved, companies are attempting to make progress. Fortunately, the markets that are underserved and under-banked happen to have tremendous mobile-phone exposure. That will make remittance easier as more people learn about bitcoin.

Finally, we return to what many considered bitcoin’s first, fundamental use case: digital gold. While bitcoin remains volatile today, it’s certainly not the only volatile asset in the world. And before we lament a 10% drop in the price of a still new asset, consider that the stock market has experienced 10% drops in similar time frames. What about oil? Or gold? Or coal? Even mature assets can experience price fluctuations.

Consider the fact that trading volume is up in many of the same countries that are likely to benefit the most from digital gold. Argentina is experiencing some of its highest points of volume. Brazil, which is dealing with debt problems, is also at its highest point. India has had tremendous growth in the number of people using bitcoin. Even Russia, which is considering making bitcoin illegal, has seen outsized growth in volume.

Bitcoin’s reality

Bitcoin is not perfect. It has a lot of problems that it is going to have to overcome. But to label it dead or to call for it to be replaced by something new is naive and shortsighted. This battle in the civil war will end, likely with Bitcoin Classic rolling out a hard fork with significant consensus. New applications will be built that provide more use cases for different audiences. And ultimately, the Internet will get its first, true payment protocol.

But Bitcoin is seven years old. It will take many years for the infrastructure to be laid and for these applications to reach critical mass. Facebook had nearly 20 years after the browser was released to reach a billion users. To imagine bitcoin’s true potential, we need to think in decades, not in months or years. Fortunately, we’re well on our way.


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November 13, 2016, 12:51:55 PM
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By then we will have a way of mining that will decentralize the hashing rate all over the world. We will have solar pannels that are able to collect energy and are undetected by governments, so everyone will have those panels installed. We will have technology that allows for millions of transactions in a safe way, and the price will be over 1 million dollars per coin. We will surpass gold's marketcap.
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November 13, 2016, 12:57:16 PM
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What about the blocksize? If people make a bigger one, it will not generate a lower reward to miners?

There's a balance to be found. Bigger blocks, or rather any type of scaling, keeps fees reasonable and increases capacity. That in theory should attract more people and reward miners equally or better than the current situation.

I think the attempt to introduce a fee market now is insanely premature. People will just ignore Bitcoin or bypass it completely before it even gets going. Most first worlders have no use for it at present. Making it even more expensive to transact on top of the cost of obtaining it in the first place and the hassle of keeping it safe makes it a giant turn off.

The real potential lies in the less banked parts of the world. If they're priced out before they become aware of it then I think it's fated to remain a noble obscurity.

It doesn't have to be bigger blocks that cures this, but something needs to roll into action relatively soon.
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November 13, 2016, 01:09:15 PM
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