Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[daggeteo]

I might be going cause i've allready put in a late order, also i'm really close by.

Make a wish list for photos and questions and either me or some other nice swede will comply =)  
To make the list manageble just ad a row starting with a *, then define if it's a (Q)uestion or a (P)hoto related request.

COPY LIST and then ADD you request =)

Example:
* Q - Ask them about psu requirements
* P - Try to get a close up of the mounted fpgas
and so on

If i make it there i hope and will try my best to do so, i will try to make the most out of the visit for me and for you too!

[1715080821]

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[pitchbend]

What Bitcoinorama says about preparing all the relevant questions for JohnyJ (if he is ok with it), makes all the sense in the world.

We should have a list of all the relevant questions prepared.

Also it'll be nice if JohnyJ can ask them to plug the MARS device to some pool while he is with them recording/taking pictures so we can check from outside that the hashrate is accurate and that it's beeing generated indeed by the MARS device.

[Bitcoinorama]

What Bitcoinorama says about preparing all the relevant questions for JohnyJ (if he is ok with it), makes all the sense in the world.

We should have a list of all the relevant questions prepared.

Also it'll be nice if JohnyJ can ask them to plug the MARS device to some pool while he is with them recording/taking pictures so we can check from outside that the hashrate is accurate and that it's beeing generated indeed by the MARS device.

If the legitimacy of the FPGA is under scrutiny perhaps either JohnyJ or Daggeteo could take a laptop of theirs along? (So as there's no Cetartec software bewitchery - joke) You may want to check what operating sys prior. Certainly this needs to be done w.r.t. the ASIC prototype.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

What Bitcoinorama says about preparing all the relevant questions for JohnyJ (if he is ok with it), makes all the sense in the world.

We should have a list of all the relevant questions prepared.

Also it'll be nice if JohnyJ can ask them to plug the MARS device to some pool while he is with them recording/taking pictures so we can check from outside that the hashrate is accurate and that it's beeing generated indeed by the MARS device.

And all questions should be answered honestly and in depth, unless protecting intellectual property, in which case such questions shouldn't be asked in the first place.

Sam, Andreas, and whoever is representing ORSoC should view this video prior to the meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vphJil59bo

I guarantee you that the more transparent you are, the more pre-sales you will garner.

Anything less, will be an utter failure.

[Bitcoinorama]

What Bitcoinorama says about preparing all the relevant questions for JohnyJ (if he is ok with it), makes all the sense in the world.

We should have a list of all the relevant questions prepared.

Also it'll be nice if JohnyJ can ask them to plug the MARS device to some pool while he is with them recording/taking pictures so we can check from outside that the hashrate is accurate and that it's beeing generated indeed by the MARS device.

And all questions should be answered honestly and in depth, unless protecting intellectual property, in which case such questions shouldn't be asked in the first place.

Sam, Andreas, and whoever is representing ORSoC should view this video prior to the meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vphJil59bo

I guarantee you that the more transparent you are, the more pre-sales you will garner.

Anything less, will be an utter failure.

Seriously..?!

[jlspartz]

What Bitcoinorama says about preparing all the relevant questions for JohnyJ (if he is ok with it), makes all the sense in the world.

We should have a list of all the relevant questions prepared.

Also it'll be nice if JohnyJ can ask them to plug the MARS device to some pool while he is with them recording/taking pictures so we can check from outside that the hashrate is accurate and that it's beeing generated indeed by the MARS device.

And all questions should be answered honestly and in depth, unless protecting intellectual property, in which case such questions shouldn't be asked in the first place.

Sam, Andreas, and whoever is representing ORSoC should view this video prior to the meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vphJil59bo

I guarantee you that the more transparent you are, the more pre-sales you will garner.

Anything less, will be an utter failure.

Good video and good advice!  I love the Ted Talks videos/speakers.  This is where BFL went completely awry.

[premo]

Wait a minute!

This is great!! We can sell the pre order that we havent paid for ...
This iiiis ground breaking.. lolz

brilliant!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPKf7y1F-Q

Batch #1 pre order #1 $10k tomorrow???


I swear to god, if you guys copy my ebay listing.. lolz




KNCMINER BATCH ONE PREORDER POSITION
 KNCMINER BATCH ONE PREORDER PLACE IN LINE
   KNCMINER BATCH ONE PREORDER STEP 1/8

hmmm whats a good title..
 
 
Crouching pre order... hidden asic.


 

hahahahah this was too good. splendid

[KS]

@bitcoinorama:

Since you're chums, why don't you ask Sam to send us a copy of the annual report. Won't be long now...

[Bitcoinorama]

@bitcoinorama:

Since you're chums, why don't you ask Sam to send us a copy of the annual report. Won't be long now...

Seriously drop it. I just did what anyone else should have done and contacted the guy using an email in this thread and asked genuinely helpful questions, as you can see.  I'm not the only one he has replied to, and I'd sooner be proactive than reactive based on zero evidence to the contrary.

If I don't like what I see once they actually supplied something worth being critical of, believe me I will be vocal about it. As of this moment they've yet to butcher an old ATX board and superglue component parts and photoshop fake chips, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I'm not 100% sure about this, but aren't annual reports by their very nature yearly?

[jonand]

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I am living 20km north of Stockholm. Low post count on me though, but back in 2011 I posted a few times in the opensource fpga miner thread (running on some xilinx eval boards).

[Bitcoinorama]

Out of interest, who for sure (members of this forum) is actually situated in Sweden (or close to), specifically Stockholm?

I am living 20km north of Stockholm. Low post count on me though, but back in 2011 I posted a few times in the opensource fpga miner thread (running on some xilinx eval boards).

Go for it, ask JohnyJ (he's a hero member) where and when, I'm sure he'll sniff you out if you're a double agent be good to have someone with FPGA experience there...

[zedicus]

I called Stockholm and verified they do have internet in the summer.
Get this, they even said youtube works! Holy ****! I didnt expect that!


Not to take anything away from whoever "hero" member johnny is.. but maybe we can all be hero members for the day if they do a webcast.

 Hell, im sure we can all put on name tags that say johnny at home and play along. In fact fek it.. for the next couple of pages on this thread .. call me johnny too!


Now i know with all the "old" snow and stuff ..and considering nothing in Sweden works in the summer its a long shot but..


If we can find someone that can hold down the rec button... maybe someone else can hold on to the rabbit ears so we can all watch at the same time!

webcast, livestream, youtube, youtube live stream, ustream, vidblaster???..(+300 more that i wont mention now)


Hell my new Samsung s4 does 1080p! Something like that might not even exist in Sweden tho. Smartphones ...pffft



 before you guys say this is crazy and its not the year 2050 .. i called the mayor of Stockholm and he promised the internet works with old snow now. ..


He did mumble something about not wanting to hold the rabbit ears and how he did it last time and missed half the game..



So in summary! Hero member johnny goes to Sweden ... finds someone who can hold the rec button while he convinces KNC & ORSoC to hold the rabbit ears while we all look .. and then johnny takes a picture of knc & ORSoC holding the rabbit ears in front of the said device while we are watching the stream.


I know i know ... its gonna be tough to find someone to operate the zoom button but hey,
 we will get to that problem when we get to it.


If we can sneak in a really big red record button through customs.. oh man that would be it!

Hell johnny could stay home! KNC could press record & ORSoC could pet the rabbit ears.. a lil 360 action???

Im over reaching .. lets stick to johnny and the mayor.. i mean the miner.




Best,
Johnny  

i mean..

[Anenome5]

Asked as much questions you possibly can on the Asic Miner and their progress on the litecoin FPGA Miner : ) Most important can they meet the September 2013 dateline. When is the 350gh/s Asic prototype Miner going to be out? July 2013??

Did they actually say they're gonna roll with the Litecoin miner? I mean, that's def a good idea, but thought they said the limited time crunch was gonna kill that idea.

[Bitcoinorama]

Asked as much questions you possibly can on the Asic Miner and their progress on the litecoin FPGA Miner : ) Most important can they meet the September 2013 dateline. When is the 350gh/s Asic prototype Miner going to be out? July 2013??

Did they actually say they're gonna roll with the Litecoin miner? I mean, that's def a good idea, but thought they said the limited time crunch was gonna kill that idea.

No not for Mars v.1, but they will def attempt a Litecoin FPGA Mars v.2 is what they stated earlier to another member on this thread (Pichadpi).

I quizzed them as to whether the v.1 hardware would have upgradable memory for scrypt mining later, or whether early adopters could part exchange, or upgrade to a v.2 Mars using their existing v.1 FPGA chips (and pay for the v.2 board), but they declined;

As for the litecoin FPGA box, it will be sold as a single item and not tied into any bitcoin device currently. We are looking at running it in parallel with Jupiter but there will be no swap out with mars.

To me that would be a huge incentive to buy the v.1 Mars if I knew it wasn't then going to be completely redundant (for Bitcoin mining) so soon and there fore wasted hardware over such a short timeframe. It would also mean a greater return on investment knowing the existing FPGA chips could be transferred from a Bitcoin miner to a Litecoin miner.

[seleme]

Not sure if posted already but I just run on Google Adsense ad for KncMiner on some site.

ASIC Bitcoin hardware
www.kncminer.com
with upto 350GH/s for bitcoin mining

[glowkeeper]

.....Not to take anything away from whoever "hero" member johnny is.. but maybe we can all be hero members for the day if they do a webcast.

Brilliant idea Johnny. Kicking myself for not suggesting it in one of the 61 pages prior

.....Hell my new Samsung s4 does 1080p! Something like that might not even exist in Sweden tho. Smartphones ...pffft

I'm sure they can form some sort of treaty with the Finn's next door and borrow one for the day. Long shot, I know......

So I'm all for the webcast

[KS]

@bitcoinorama:

Since you're chums, why don't you ask Sam to send us a copy of the annual report. Won't be long now...

Seriously drop it. I just did what anyone else should have done and contacted the guy using an email in this thread and asked genuinely helpful questions, as you can see.  I'm not the only one he has replied to, and I'd sooner be proactive than reactive based on zero evidence to the contrary.

If I don't like what I see once they actually supplied something worth being critical of, believe me I will be vocal about it. As of this moment they've yet to butcher an old ATX board and superglue component parts and photoshop fake chips, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I'm not 100% sure about this, but aren't annual reports by their very nature yearly?

I'm not sure what value you see in the "answers" provided, they do nothing to instill confidence.

RE the annual reports, the dates stated on bolagsverket (sorry to the Swedes if I butchered it) and Deloitte are not the same. One states they need to be sent on January 31st latest, the other June 30th. There could be a distinction between private and public AB, but that wasn't clear.

I have put a preorder in to hedge my bets (hey, it's free so far...), but they won't see a dime before proving without any doubt they're legit and capable or pulling this out. And right now, they don't look either to me.

Right now I'm reserving my money for serious projects like the Avalon ASIC/ Klondike one.

[Bitcoinorama]

@bitcoinorama:

Since you're chums, why don't you ask Sam to send us a copy of the annual report. Won't be long now...

Seriously drop it. I just did what anyone else should have done and contacted the guy using an email in this thread and asked genuinely helpful questions, as you can see.  I'm not the only one he has replied to, and I'd sooner be proactive than reactive based on zero evidence to the contrary.

If I don't like what I see once they actually supplied something worth being critical of, believe me I will be vocal about it. As of this moment they've yet to butcher an old ATX board and superglue component parts and photoshop fake chips, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Also, I'm not 100% sure about this, but aren't annual reports by their very nature yearly?

I'm not sure what value you see in the "answers" provided, they do nothing to instill confidence.

RE the annual reports, the dates stated on bolagsverket (sorry to the Swedes if I butchered it) and Deloitte are not the same. One states they need to be sent on January 31st latest, the other June 30th. There could be a distinction between private and public AB, but that wasn't clear.

I have put a preorder in to hedge my bets (hey, it's free so far...), but they won't see a dime before proving without any doubt they're legit and capable or pulling this out. And right now, they don't look either to me.

Right now I'm reserving my money for serious projects like the Avalon ASIC/ Klondike one.

I'm not saying they instil confidence, I'm saying I'd rather they be given the opportunity to answer questions and rather than watch a load of naysayers bitching back and fourth, I pulled my finger out and asked. I then shared their answers with everybody so you can digest and hopefully come to a more informed opinion along the way.

It certainly has't cost me anything to ask, aside a little time. It also hasn't cost them anything to respond and the more transparent they are the better, which is what Phin was stating above. They've seen first hand BFL and to some extent Avalon's mistakes, so there is no excuse to make them again.

The more information the better, but talk is cheap, what matters is whether they can develop, manufacture and deliver...on time and hopefully ahead of the DIYers and potentially most of BFL's preorders. Monday is hopefully a step closer to answering that, and ultimately this is what those attending need to ascertain beyond reasonable doubt.

Trolling and being anything less than constructive doesn't affect KnC, but it certainly muddles any means of keeping information clear so informed decision to be made. It's pretty obvious on paper they have the ability to attempt this project and that their intentions aren't necessarily untoward. Still none of that matters unless we know they are capable of completing the project, and completing it on time.

My money's staying with me unless I have total confidence they can manufacture and deliver an ASIC with the power they've stated in September and that I'm covered buy buyer's protection. I'm certainly not handing any cash over for an ASIC unless I've seen them demonstrate a Saturn/Jupiter prototype with ASICs operating at their given specification working in front of me. They've said they can do this, so let them. Any criticism to the contrary without reasonable proven substance behind it is just noise, and we have a huge chunk of 60+ pages of that.

Now, can we get back to thinking up some worthwhile questions, and suggestions, for the guys heading to the meet on Monday?

[johnyj]

Sam's reply :" ... we were hoping for Monday next week but we are still waiting on parts to arrive so it will be a little later"

[tosku]

Sam's reply :" ... we were hoping for Monday next week but we are still waiting on parts to arrive so it will be a little later"

No "open house" on Monday then?