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July 02, 2013, 12:39:49 PM |
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Inaba aka Josh Zerlan is such a tard He should bet 1000 BTC if he is so sure! Josh put your money where your mouth is and take the bets if you are so sure.
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Rampion
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July 02, 2013, 12:41:30 PM |
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They definitely backtracked: 2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time. IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad.
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Templer
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July 02, 2013, 12:51:39 PM |
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My problem is: They take a lot time to read threads and post some new products. But not a single word about the paid preorders from April and the actually queue position of all the 1-500 customers.
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dan99
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July 02, 2013, 12:52:41 PM |
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the smaller unit is more for those who prefer the lower end unit at a more affordable price.
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canth
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July 02, 2013, 12:56:17 PM Last edit: July 02, 2013, 01:20:51 PM by canth |
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They definitely backtracked: 2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time.
IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad.
I really don't agree with this analysis at all. This is still an upper market unit, when you compare it to the 5gh/s BFL miner at $275 or the 335Mh/s AM USBminer at $100. It's not much different from Saturn, just 1 chip instead of 2. It's a way for them to capture more revenue and realistically, they need to do that between now and October since we all know that the profit will have to go down as the network hashrate increases and the perceived ROI for a product takes more and more time. I don't see this as a good thing or a bad thing - just business. If people want to order them, so be it. My only concern is that I want items to go out in order - I don't care if Mercury equipment is available to ship on day 1. I want all products to go out in the order that we placed our orders. I'm confident that they won't make the mistakes that BFL did when they shipped 2 months worth of Jalapenos at the expense of orders for MiniRigs and Singles.
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bitpop
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July 02, 2013, 01:35:34 PM |
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Mm knc toast, I want to buy a broken chip And yeah mercury is bullshit and raising my scam radar again which decreased after cancelling the fpga
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Bitcoinorama
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July 02, 2013, 01:39:19 PM |
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My problem is: They take a lot time to read threads and post some new products. But not a single word about the paid preorders from April and the actually queue position of all the 1-500 customers. No they don't read the threads. They held a voting poll on their site lasting three weeks. Before that was a vote for a Litecoin/Altcurrency miner. Keep up!
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Bitcoinorama
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July 02, 2013, 01:40:27 PM |
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They definitely backtracked: 2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time. IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad. As I said before they cleared NRE, they've had more than enough orders for the other units, as another member stated and I am inclined to now agree, you are staring to spread FUD.
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Bitcoinorama
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July 02, 2013, 01:41:45 PM |
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They definitely backtracked: 2,000 Mercury on stock. Wow. This looks bad to me. You can say they are "listening to the market", but its clear to me that if they had enough orders for Jupiter + Saturn they wouldn't do the additional work required to develop and sell a different, smaller unit, opening the preorders for it in a record time.
IMO, this only means they didn't get enough orders of the previous units. This is starting to look bad.
I really don't agree with this analysis at all. This is still an upper market unit, when you compare it to the 5gh/s BFL miner at $275 or the 335Mh/s AM USBminer at $100. It's not much different from Saturn, just 1 chip instead of 2. It's a way for them to capture more revenue and realistically, they need to do that between now and October since we all know that the profit will have to go down as the network hashrate increases and the perceived ROI for a product takes more and more time. I don't see this as a good thing or a bad thing - just business. If people want to order them, so be it. My only concern is that I want items to go out in order - I don't care if Mercury equipment is available to ship on day 1. I want all products to go out in the order that we placed our orders. I'm confident that they won't make the mistakes that BFL did when they shipped 2 months worth of Jalapenos at the expense of orders for MiniRigs and Singles. It wasn't about more revenue, it was about what people truly wanted with respect to price entry point vs. ability to scale customer service. As the units are modular, they won't be replicating the Jalepeno, Mini Rig debacle. It will be shipped as and when orders were made. Fairly.
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erschiessen
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July 02, 2013, 01:43:31 PM |
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It's funny that the announcement comes on the heels of Zerlan being a douche.
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Crypto_Cumbrian
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July 02, 2013, 01:55:08 PM |
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Interesting news.
I think reading between the Lines, the first two Products and the number of pre-orders still on track for a September shipping. So all new pre-orders and the new Mercury Asic go to the back of the queue which is now at October.
Keep the KnC faith. ;-)
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merv77
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July 02, 2013, 01:57:40 PM |
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how come I don't see the quantity amount in red text in any of my browsers? Is everyone seeing as image above? I can only see the quantity box to select an amount to buy.
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Bitcoinorama
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July 02, 2013, 02:05:54 PM |
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It's funny that the announcement comes on the heels of Zerlan being a douche.
Pure coincidence. They would have put a lot more thought into their actions, than Josh does with his comments!!
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bitpop
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July 02, 2013, 02:14:12 PM |
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Who is zerlan?
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merv77
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July 02, 2013, 02:25:54 PM |
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this is the way it's displayed in my browsers, also notice different images for the miners. It's possible they know how final products are going to look like.
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phantastisch
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July 02, 2013, 02:28:41 PM |
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how come I don't see the quantity amount in red text in any of my browsers? Is everyone seeing as image above? I can only see the quantity box to select an amount to buy. Try increasing your quantity to a high number e.g.: 4000 and you get the red text.
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July 02, 2013, 02:32:40 PM |
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Who is zerlan?
Josh from BFL.)
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Rampion
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July 02, 2013, 02:34:43 PM |
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They just reset the stock counters and now there's 2,000 units on stock for every unit
I guess they mean nothing, I don't think they really plan to deliver 1,400TH/s till the end of the year, that would mean that each Jupiter would generate 0,5BTC per day or less and that i would never ROI (at least in BTC terms). I hope they realize that "ROI" in this market means to generate more BTC with your machine than you could have bought with the same amount of $ at the time of the purchase. Lately a read I lot of BS from people saying that "ROI depends on the exchange rate".
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OmegaNemesis28
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July 02, 2013, 02:47:52 PM |
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Has anyone placed an order with them yet? I feel safer that they have Paypal, but considering ~October~ shipping? Thats really risky. I have a super bad taste in my mouth after BFL. But 100GH/s seems awesome
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maxmint
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July 02, 2013, 02:59:39 PM |
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Looks like they finally sorted out their order / preorder queue:
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