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July 11, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
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Well, they are talking about upgrade modules.
Two question came into my mind :
Can you add the module yourself or does KNC have to do it ?
When will the modules start shipping (September, October ...) ?

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July 11, 2013, 11:54:54 AM
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Well, they are talking about upgrade modules.
Two question came into my mind :
Can you add the module yourself or does KNC have to do it ?
When will the modules start shipping (September, October ...) ?

I'm willing to bet we could add them ourselves unless they are talking the 1-4 chips per board where 2 = Saturn 4 = jupiter.  Yea I would also like some pictures too, but I'm feeling like they are still in process of designing and sourcing cases.  Otherwise there would have been those already.  This also goes back to the possibility that they may be trying to hide advancements or NRE developments made while processing that they want to remain as proprietary.  I'm hoping to get a glance at the types of cases they plan to use.  I am planning to have it in a location where it shouldnt be DIY but very sturdy.  The Mars FPGA prototype and that other long looking version of it were not very convincing to me for longer term durability. 

Just observing - are those photos on their site made from Google Sketchup?

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July 11, 2013, 12:04:15 PM
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Status Update
7/11/2013 11:15:00 AM

Shipping days,

 

As most of you are aware we have added Day 1 or Day 2 to the orders which were based on pre-registrations. This is mostly complete now with only a few exceptions needing to be solved. Going forward we will add Shipping weeks to the other orders such as Week 1 or Week 2.  This will happen nearer the end of August so until then you can assume that shipment queue is based on payment date.

 

Chip progress

 

We get a lot of questions about where we are in the process of our production. We would like to assure you all that we are on track for the first shipment in September

The Chip manufacture is currently in production of the Chips and all other sub components that need to have been ordered at this stage have been.

 

Hosting

 

We have our final costs for hosting which will be 350USD per Jupiter per month with a 6 month contract as a minimum, We will only allow the Jupiter models to be housed in our secure location.

There will be a mining pool onsite that will charge a very low pool fee around 2%. Only hosting customers will be allowed to use our mining pool.

More information on the hosting will follow

 

Upgrade Modules

 

We will be adding to our shop the upgrade modules to allow customer who have purchased a Saturn to upgrade their order to a Jupiter. The same goes for a Mercury upgrade to a Saturn. These upgrades will be available in the next few days.


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July 11, 2013, 12:25:13 PM
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THX, i was unable to do click LMB/RMB.
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July 11, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
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This also goes back to the possibility that they may be trying to hide advancements or NRE developments made while processing that they want to remain as proprietary.

It's the hypothesis giving me hope Smiley
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July 11, 2013, 02:03:15 PM
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Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.
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July 11, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
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Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

Power for this toy is expensive.. So price is not that bad. You also get cooling in that price. Longer lifetime of the unit than hosting it in the closet..

If you buy more than 2-3 of jupiters, using home solution might not be good enough.

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July 11, 2013, 02:14:55 PM
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Call me a gambler but I feel more confident about these guys than I ever did about BFL. I'm still waiting on my equipment; I will never do business with them again based solely on the poor customer relationship skills they have demonstrated. Here's hoping for an October delivery from Sweden!
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July 11, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
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Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

If they payment is request in USD, Then just think about how you have so many more possibilities of "refunding" your money.
IE you payed with CC/Paypal USD=Refundable
If you payed with the Glorious Bitcoin, then you cant Refund on your own, You need them to do it for you, and they will have to to a conversion rate and hand you back equivalent USD.
So why not just stay on USD?

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July 11, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
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Is there anything said by KNC how they will divide the units once ready between paying customers and the ones they will use for mining themselves?

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July 11, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
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Something tells me that if there was any scamming afoot, the hosting option would not be priced as it is. Perhaps electricity is more expensive there, but that just seems a bit high? Was figuring they would take a percentage of the coins mined, but the release reads like payment may be requested in USD? Just have to wait for more details and see I guess. After reading that portion of the update, I'm now seriously thinking about having my unit shipped.

In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

So from my point of view pricing is ok

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July 11, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
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what you think ?

it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?



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July 11, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
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In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

So from my point of view pricing is ok

That makes more sense. Energy peaks at .12$ per 1000W/h (I think) where I am. All I know is that I'm running 4x750 PSUs for a LTC mining rig and that's about $250 a month. Have to re-evaluate closer to the ship date depending on where difficulty and BTC/USD are, and make a decision from there.
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July 11, 2013, 02:36:25 PM
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what you think ?

it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?





... and more important... will you loose you current order spot because you technically pay later?

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July 11, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
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what you think ?

it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?
You mean Mercury to Jupiter? According to the drawings on their website, it should.
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July 11, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
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What do you mean with "technically pay later"?
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July 11, 2013, 02:43:34 PM
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what you think ?

it is possible to upgrade from mars to jupiter by buying 3 upgrade modules ?
You mean Mercury to Jupiter? According to the drawings on their website, it should.


the upgrad path will be : mecur to saturn / saturn to jupiter.

maybe  they build the pcb with no posibility to upgrade 3 modules ?

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July 11, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
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Would not make sense to make different PCBs.
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July 11, 2013, 02:46:46 PM
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In Europe you easily pay 0,30$ per 1000W/h. We use too much green energy here Wink

0,3$*24h*30days = 216$ alone for energy per month.... :-/

So from my point of view pricing is ok

That makes more sense. Energy peaks at .12$ per 1000W/h (I think) where I am. All I know is that I'm running 4x750 PSUs for a LTC mining rig and that's about $250 a month. Have to re-evaluate closer to the ship date depending on where difficulty and BTC/USD are, and make a decision from there.

last year the kwh was around 20€ cent.

http://www.stepmap.de/karte/strompreise-europa-1160873

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July 11, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
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What do you mean with "technically pay later"?

I mean:

-> e.g. you ordered and payed for a Saturn on 20th June
-> Now you upgrade to Jupiter lets say on 10th August - you also do your "upgrade" payment on 10th August

What is the "paying" date for your order? 20th June oder 10th August? As far as I understood this will have big impact on delivery date of your machine due KnC said "First paid, first serve".

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