Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[frankenmint]

wow, 3 ignored users one after another. maybe I should sneak a peek 

You are not missing anything.

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this whole thread sucks...thanks for making it that way guys.

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[coldbreeze16]

wow, 3 ignored users one after another. maybe I should sneak a peek 

You are not missing anything.

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[frankenmint]

Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

I'm speculating but that makes me think they aren't assembled in Sweden.


Edit: the Avenger Below is Right I'll shut my mouth about speculations from now on.

[rolling]

Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

Exactly.  If they had chips, you would have a picture posted within minutes of getting them.  In fact, as soon as their courier has them in possession, they will take a picture.  They are not even done being packaged therefore no assembly/production is taking place. I mean maybe boards but not miners.

[The Avenger]

Posting a load of photos of people assembling racks, then nothing shown for production...not a pixel. Does that make an ounce of sense at this stage if they are in production? So easy to do. Why wouldn't they?

I'm speculating but that makes me think they aren't assembled in Sweden.

EVERYONE is speculating, that's what's making this thread so intolerable.

KNC's two major investor seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday. Sam has said things are going well. Sam has invited prospective employee Bitcoinorama to come to Sweden this weekend for "something". That's the most solid info anyone has. So let's leave it at that.

[markm]

You people who only run your rigs 8 hours a day and only on weekdays might want to think about running more shifts, no wonder you don't think you'll make ROI if you have an only eight hours a day, only on weekdays mentality...

-MarkM-

[dwdoc]

KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

[The Avenger]

KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

Read back the last couple of pages. That's why there is so much noise, because people post without having read anything that's gone before.

[AussieHash]

KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

He's talking about cloudhashing and byteminr

[blastbob]

KNC's two major investors seems to think they will be starting their operations on Monday or Tuesday.

Missed that. Link please.

He's talking about cloudhashing and byteminr

Cloudhashing do most likely have the biggest order.. nothing confirmed.
Byteminr is the brother of Sam wasnt it?

[Satobit]

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Where is the photo of the chips, I can't find it?

http://forum.kncminer.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=2546&type=thumb
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/2545-kncminer-28nm-die-photos-hot-of-the-press-from-our-packaging-assembly-house

that is not the photo of the chip.

[bitrebel]

I think it's only fair that I disclose this to current investors.
The colored Easter Egg Batch Producers are selling out fast. I'm considering taking pre-orders for our next state of the art Batch Colored Easter Egg Producer.
Those who stood by us will get a special Colored Egg Producer that is a Miniature version of our Larger Batch Producer.
We'll soon update the site with pics of our new model, actually working, or getting ready to work. But we have our in house project Currently producing Colored Easter Eggs as we speak, so there are no gimmicks here. All of us have experience and background in this field. You can count on us.
 

[erk]

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Where is the photo of the chips, I can't find it?

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/2545-kncminer-28nm-die-photos-hot-of-the-press-from-our-packaging-assembly-house

Thanks for that, I don't read their forums usually. So if that was on the 19th. that's not too bad, the packaging must be well under way.

[markm]

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Where is the photo of the chips, I can't find it?

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/2545-kncminer-28nm-die-photos-hot-of-the-press-from-our-packaging-assembly-house

that is not the photo of the chip.

It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

-MarkM-

[timmmers]

ok, might be as you stated out. so Day1 is then Friday and Day2 Monday, right?

Why do people wait until Sunday to buy their Sunday newspaper instead of picking it up when the printer closes at 5:30 or so friday evening?

Or don't you have Sunday papers where you come from?

Why wait for morning to get your morning paper, instead of picking it up from the printer at 5:30 the evening before when the printer closes?

Sheesh! Capital machinery is like bitcoin mining rigs, you pay 24/7 interest on the capital it took to get the damn things, you think everyone is going to run it 8 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Day 1 is presumably the first day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks and day two the second day the machines are pouring out rigs into courier trucks.

Maybe day 1 starts at midnight tonight... But midnight by where's timezone? Maybe it is already midnight somewhere!

-MarkM-

Newspapers aren't assembled by hand. Rolls of paper go into the press and bundles of papers roll out into the loading bay. I served my apprenticeship in the newspaper press business. They are picked up and delivered late Saturday night in some cases too which is why they are on news progs on telly late Saturday night.. The machinery producing the boards will run 24/7 from the start of production until it's all done with no day1 or day 2 and no stopping except for breakdown and maintenance if needed ...that's just a line in the sand for us that doesn't matter at all at their end as long as the right numbers can be produced to ship what they promised on day1 and day2. If you got a day2 order on day1 which is likely for someone ..you'd care less wouldn't you?

The machines are pouring out parts to assemblers, not into trucks...we've been through all that already. I thought it was all going to be automated too until it was proved otherwise. They will need putting together and the pool details entering and testing and packing securely , and for some the hosting setup sorting. Not an instant process. Not something they have done before either in this volume is it?

I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing. Losing a day or two of early mining pales to nothing compared to what you'd lose if it broke...as BFL customers found out in some cases.

[The Avenger]

I don't want a rushed rig, something that arrives a day late and doesn't last due to some easily avoided fault or lack of testing.

This is definitely a big worry, especially for those taking delivery. You could lose days, a week or more of mining sending it back to Sweden for repairs.

I hope, even if they rush the first batch out the door, they go back to a proper and full testing/burn-in procedure for the later rigs.

[timmmers]

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Where is the photo of the chips, I can't find it?

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/2545-kncminer-28nm-die-photos-hot-of-the-press-from-our-packaging-assembly-house

that is not the photo of the chip.

It is chips before they go into a package which goes into some kind of sealed packing which goes into a courier's luggage which goes to Sweden, or something like that. So quite possibly the last chance to get a photo of them before the sealed packing material is unsealed at the factory to be fed into the assembly machines - oh and a few snipped off to test and prototype with while the assembly machines churn away maybe.

-MarkM-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging nothing to do with plastic bags or couriers. Daft term

[markm]

Losing two shifts a day plus two days a week doesn't sound great either.

I have worked evenings and nights, neither shift seemed more rushed than the day shift.

In fact often evening and night shifts can be more relaxed because they aren't exposed to "visitors" and "touring dignitaries" and so on.

So I don't see how running shifts necessitates doing a sloppy job.

More likely the sloppiest people would be on the day shift, as more "management" and higher "management" tends to be around in the day shift to keep an eye on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit_packaging nothing to do with plastic bags or couriers. Daft term

I meant that the chips go to be packaged like wikipedia said, and from there in moisture-proof packaging by courier to Sweden or wherever.

-MarkM-

[The Avenger]

SO I don't see how running shits necessitates doing a sloppy job.

running shits are very sloppy

[bitrebel]

So I "Ignored" all the Trolls, posers, wannabes and FUD spreaders, and now I am left with only Sam from KNC, and i'm wondering if I should ignore him as well.

But the orders and e-mails and PMs are pouring in for the newest Colored Batch Producers. I'm going to make a killing, being the first to have stock in these.

BTW pre-orders are still available, just send me a PM.