Tezos discussion

[dishku]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

[legday]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

[hankrules]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

Are you in the US?  We need to find out if US is going to be excluded from participation

[capensis]

In addition to completing the KYC/AML you also need to seperately tick box to agree to Tezos terms and conditions.Who can understand fully what you are agreeing to ? You need to be a lawyer to understand fully all this.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/tokensoft-tezos/docs/Tezos+Foundation+Terms+and+Conditions.pdf

Also the T & C can be changed at any time by Tezos.

The Tezos Foundation (the “Foundation”, “we”, “us” or “our”) reserves the right, subject
to applicable law, to make changes to, modify, or add or remove portions of these Terms,
our Privacy Policy and other incorporated terms and policies, in our sole discretion, at
any time prior to the Foundation’s allocation recommendation. We encourage you to
check our website frequently to see the current Terms in effect and any changes that may
have been made to them prior to the Foundation’s recommended XTZ allocation in its
proposed genesis block. All changes made to the Terms are effective immediately when
we post them. No one is authorized to modify these Terms with you or otherwise enter
into an agreement with you that conflicts with these Terms, except by means of written
agreement signed by an authorized agent of the Foundation, and any other purported
modifications or alterations or conflicting terms will be null and void.

[capensis]

Re the new/additional DLS-Tezos /TF terms & conditions you also have to sign/agree to before you can claim your XTZ.

Lets say someone wanted to or is participating in the TZLibre fork of Tezos.

Can anybody tell me if these new Tezos/TF T & Cs prevent or penalise in any way someone from in future or who has now already participated in TZLibre fork in any way ?

Cheers

[ebarakos]

I have lost the wallet paper/print with the public key hash. I have only 1) the seed 2) the password used 3) the e-mail used. Can I recover my public key hash? And how? Anyone knows?

[legday]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

Are you in the US?  We need to find out if US is going to be excluded from participation

No I'm not. During ICO, US citizens were not allowed to participate, but regardless, I'm pretty sure Tezos team won't deprive them from receiving coins.

Vitalik Buterin responding to Tezos Foundation's "KYC/AML check" tweet https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1006026764341014530

[Dvd1989]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

Are you in the US?  We need to find out if US is going to be excluded from participation

No I'm not. During ICO, US citizens were not allowed to participate, but regardless, I'm pretty sure Tezos team won't deprive them from receiving coins.

Vitalik Buterin responding to Tezos Foundation's "KYC/AML check" tweet https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1006026764341014530

I'm wondering if people that participated in the ICO, and moved to the United States in the meanwhile, will still be excluded. That would suck.

[Krot98]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Introduction KYC will be an inconvenient innovation for many investors, many will be very negative about this function.

[Makka]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

Are you in the US?  We need to find out if US is going to be excluded from participation

No I'm not. During ICO, US citizens were not allowed to participate, but regardless, I'm pretty sure Tezos team won't deprive them from receiving coins.

Vitalik Buterin responding to Tezos Foundation's "KYC/AML check" tweet https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1006026764341014530

It would be ridiculous if those from the USA, China and other countries taking a ban on ICOs but some of its citizens attended using other ways will be deprived of their shares. Tezos should distribute it or they could've prevented those people from contributing.

[Sam123]

uh-oh. looks like KYC will be mandatory for Tezos contributors too. Even tho it was not, back in July.
Source: https://twitter.com/TezosFoundation/status/1005870093375504384

Yes that is as I remember nothing mentioned about at the time of contribution into this ICO. Anyway we have to submit our documents to pass this KYC process if we want to get access to our tokens.

That's because KYC was not a requirement back then. It became mandatory much later. I just registered, verified public key and now I have to wait for email from Tezos to submit documents.

Are you in the US?  We need to find out if US is going to be excluded from participation

No I'm not. During ICO, US citizens were not allowed to participate, but regardless, I'm pretty sure Tezos team won't deprive them from receiving coins.

Vitalik Buterin responding to Tezos Foundation's "KYC/AML check" tweet https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1006026764341014530

I'm wondering if people that participated in the ICO, and moved to the United States in the meanwhile, will still be excluded. That would suck.

This is a good question. Needs to be added to the Tezos FAQ

[boopy265420]

It can be answered using common sense, since all those projects exclude US citizens and residents, this will apply to those who moved there, at time of claiming their tokens. This last minutes KYC condition made things complicated and is causing frustration. It will be interesting to watch how things advance ahead.

[coat47]

We don't have news in twitter since september 2017 and they come back to tell us that we must make the kyc   

[legday]

We don't have news in twitter since september 2017 and they come back to tell us that we must make the kyc   

There have been plenty of news. Unfortunately, KYC is not really up to them. Law says every ICO investor must go through it. I don't think US investors should panic until there is reason to panic.

[Dvd1989]

It can be answered using common sense, since all those projects exclude US citizens and residents, this will apply to those who moved there, at time of claiming their tokens. This last minutes KYC condition made things complicated and is causing frustration. It will be interesting to watch how things advance ahead.

I disagree that your conclusion is based on common sense. US Citizens were nog allowed to participate in the ICO. Receiving tokens after the ICO has been done for a year is a totally different thing.

[bitbouillion]

The postponement of this date by KYC and AML has been ridiculous. It is a pity that the conditions that have to be done before are very long afterwards.

[popcorn1]

Tezos as become CENTRALISED  <<FACT..

You have become "CENTRALISED" why bother with blockchain? ..
More cost and way way slower < Blockchain..

KYC and AML you have to do this when signing up to online bookmakers like williamhill ladbrokes and believe me it's centralised  meaning they can refuse to pay if they so wish   close accounts down just 1 of many reason that they think of     not you ..

But once you send photo ID everything runs better BUT still had my account stopped on many occasions
and then on the phone or live talk for hours ..

Now imagine a BLOCKCHAIN way way slower than centralised storage how long will you be on the phone for      they shut accounts down and everything ..

Now to ask for ID good idea BUT then why blockchain?
You go CENTRALISED then pick a slower and less storage space thing like blockchain why not just do everything CENTRALISED ..

Are you STUPID?..
No matter how much you try and butter it up it's CENTRALISED <<FACT..

You built a decentralised blockchain    BUT no matter what you can still find out what people do FACT ..
SO WHAT'S THE POINT? ..

You built a DECENTRALISED BLOCKCHAIN.. WHY IF YOUR ASKING FOR ID?..
so now that everyone has to send photo ID to get your TEZOS why not just have TEZOS centralised as in storage and everything like cost safeness and even check will save cost ..?

It makes no difference because you cannot hide nothing you sent photo ID so now that's been done
your centralised   I know i bet everyday ..Only 2 pound bets up to 10 to 5 pounds everyday ..

Not a big gambler because i was and lost many times me wages ..So become wise ..
and never chase your monies not ever ..

But you are centralised now fact ..But now your going to charge gas cost and slower storage even though your CENTRALISED   are you footing nuts? ..

Just imagine no transaction cost more storage faster better   WHAT DID YOU SAY?  ARR
But your NOT DECENTRALISED  your CENTRALISED   then be stupid and pick a slower form of storage and cost way way higher ..

TEZOS  IS NOT DECENTRALISED   1 BIT ..
I don't mind i never bought any ..I wait till after release  ..

But i will still buy some because now they are a CENTRALISED BOOKIES  ..
I sign up buy 50 Tezos and hope they rise and my 50 tezos will be worth more in bets .<NICE ..

But lets not be stupid and use blockchain NO POINT <<<FACT..
No it doesn't matter    because even storing the information in a building is no different because anyone
like TEZOS themselves or the government can look at what you do OR shut you down..

So all that decentralised coding is a waste of time  .
Cost higher to run so why pay more if your centralised  .
Less storage space so why if your centralised 
slower speed transactions so why if your centralised  ..

Crazy people build things that defeat the object  ..

See i always said clever people can be as thick as shit

[2012]

The postponement of this date by KYC and AML has been ridiculous. It is a pity that the conditions that have to be done before are very long afterwards.

We have no other choice rather than this to obey their orders because they have our money. But to be honest I was not expecting this kind of decision from this team I though this is very professional and came with full preparation but we seeing this strange thing.

[jsxcryptoman]

Why Tezos team not publish requirement KYC when ICO starting? If they said what need KYC for join ICO, then they collected a smaller amount. This is not unprofessionally.

[Dvd1989]

Why Tezos team not publish requirement KYC when ICO starting? If they said what need KYC for join ICO, then they collected a smaller amount. This is not unprofessionally.

They did not know the crypto landscape would change this much. At the time of the ICO of Tezos, requirements like KYC were not common. I've participated in many ICO's back then and no other project carried out KYC.

Times have changed and Tezos want's to be on the safe side.