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We can't even really harvest solar and wind yet without subsidies.

We can, its just that coal/nuke/dams are paid for(subsidized) by future generations, and current society doesn't count that in any way.

Absolutely agree.

We lack a mechanism for pricing the externalities of many technologies, fossil energy being perhaps the largest, no question.

Humans being what they are, I fear we will kick that can wayyyyy too far down the road, perhaps we already have.
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January 29, 2018, 03:49:28 AM

We can't even really harvest solar and wind yet without subsidies.

I thought Solar had become feasible now.    Not far from my house there is a solar farm that is feeding an oil refinery pretty sure (ironic).   Now the weird thing is where I live its not even that sunny but apparently they've produced something usable in a field for the factory, maybe because it can be placed so close.     The solar farm is next to a school which a normal power station couldnt do.

I rate hydro power over solar but it needs further development.    I also live a mile away from the worlds largest tidal range resource, they dont use it... So lots of waste and inefficiency remains sadly






Yeah. Price and On Balance Volume have been telling opposite stories lately. $7500 incoming. Then $5k, then $2k, then moon after that ; )



I noticed this also but I dont agree with your conclusion exactly.  It only means right now a possible weakness lies, chart predictions are always possible scenarios or so the more experienced people I listen to say so.
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January 29, 2018, 04:34:42 AM

What's up with ethereum? It doesn't make ANY sense to me. Especially not now that Bitcoin's mempool is "ok" and LN going forward...
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January 29, 2018, 04:41:18 AM
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I thought Solar had become feasible now.    Not far from my house there is a solar farm that is feeding an oil refinery pretty sure (ironic).   Now the weird thing is where I live its not even that sunny but apparently they've produced something usable in a field for the factory, maybe because it can be placed so close.     The solar farm is next to a school which a normal power station couldnt do.

I rate hydro power over solar but it needs further development.    I also live a mile away from the worlds largest tidal range resource, they dont use it... So lots of waste and inefficiency remains sadly


My understanding, and I'm not claiming to be 100% up on the latest, things are changing all the time, is that photovoltaics have only become a net EROI positive in the last 2 years or so...just the panel itself.  Then you have deployment and associated infrastructure.  We are close, right around break even in a pure energy sense, but remember that PV manufacture has its own externalities.  It is a hugely polluting endeavor utilizing, as I understand it, dubiously sourced rare earth minerals.

Hydro has its own issues, here in the US Pacific North West we have pretty much destroyed our anadromous fisheries resource.  We have even resorted to limited dam removal.

Tidal has promise, but thus far the practical obstacles to placing infrastructure in such a violent and corrosive environment have proved insurmountable.
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January 29, 2018, 04:45:03 AM

What's up with ethereum? It doesn't make ANY sense to me. Especially not now that Bitcoin's mempool is "ok" and LN going forward...

Bitcoin is missing the ability to create tokens. We need token side chains.
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I thought Solar had become feasible now.    Not far from my house there is a solar farm that is feeding an oil refinery pretty sure (ironic).   Now the weird thing is where I live its not even that sunny but apparently they've produced something usable in a field for the factory, maybe because it can be placed so close.     The solar farm is next to a school which a normal power station couldnt do.

I rate hydro power over solar but it needs further development.    I also live a mile away from the worlds largest tidal range resource, they dont use it... So lots of waste and inefficiency remains sadly


My understanding, and I'm not claiming to be 100% up on the latest, things are changing all the time, is that photovoltaics have only become a net EROI positive in the last 2 years or so...just the panel itself.  Then you have deployment and associated infrastructure.  We are close, right around break even in a pure energy sense, but remember that PV manufacture has its own externalities.  It is a hugely polluting endeavor utilizing, as I understand it, dubiously sourced rare earth minerals.

Hydro has its own issues, here in the US Pacific North West we have pretty much destroyed our anadromous fisheries resource.  We have even resorted to limited dam removal.

then throw on top of that lithium producers for batteries

not very green at all

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January 29, 2018, 04:46:24 AM

Tether just flashed down to 94 cents so it’s not completely over yet.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/28/britains-first-bitcoin-heist-trader-forced-gunpoint-transfer/

If you've used LocalBitcoins in the UK, this guy's account would probably be familiar with you. He put down his residential address on Companies House for his business - not a good idea.

It's a stark reminder of the truth of that five dollar wrench gif. Keep safe and, if you have a great sum invested, avoid exposing that fact!
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January 29, 2018, 04:57:16 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/28/britains-first-bitcoin-heist-trader-forced-gunpoint-transfer/

If you've used LocalBitcoins in the UK, this guy's account would probably be familiar with you. He put down his residential address on Companies House for his business - not a good idea.

It's a stark reminder of the truth of that five dollar wrench gif. Keep safe and, if you have a great sum invested, avoid exposing that fact!

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January 29, 2018, 04:58:18 AM

Tether just flashed down to 94 cents so it’s not completely over yet.

Oh, didn't notice... lemme check...

XXXXX    sell/limit  USDT/USD   
$0.9789
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XXXXX   buy/limit   USDT/USD   
$0.9411
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$94.1100
   Closed   01-29-18 04:40:09 +0100

Over a 3% in 3 seconds. It looks like I had a good idea yesterday... should have played with "some" money though... or maybe not, that USDT thingy is scary shit. At least I can say I have successfully traded USDT even if it will just buy me a beer.
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January 29, 2018, 05:00:09 AM

The G20 then labels whoever they want "terrorists" and instructs the centralized pools to not process any transactions for them so your money is essentially deleted and you no longer exist ...

Except they aren't doing that, and can't do that, and can't enforce that. Not to mention the decentralized pools.

Then a single transaction goes through, and it jumps 20 hops ... enters zcash or monero or some exchange / dice site ... good luck with that.

Of course they can do that, except they will likely do it in a much easier manner.  The banks will simply create a chain anchor fork of bitcoin and legislate that the non-chain anchor fork is illegal and if you want to use bitcoin at all, you're required to use the chain anchor fork.  Bitcoin is STUPIDLY EASY for the G20 govts to co-opt and take over.
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January 29, 2018, 05:06:06 AM

I predict that so much of late 2017's run up was by deep pocket institutional investors (and not retail)

You got it completely wrong.  I talked to plenty of Goldman Sachs people who were crawling all over bitcoin and altcoins back when the BTC price was $200-800.  The so called "institutional investors" aka banks were not the ones buying at the top, they were the ones dumping at the top.  It was their pump and dump to fleece the retail investor.
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January 29, 2018, 05:15:50 AM
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USDT is too scary for me.  I don’t mind playing dead cat bounces but I prefer my cat already dead, not at the top of the cliff.
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January 29, 2018, 05:18:21 AM

USDT is too scary for me.  I don’t mind playing dead cat bounces but I prefer my cat already dead, not at the top of the cliff.

I do agree. That's why I only played with $100 just for the lulz. But hey, it worked and I am happy for that Smiley
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January 29, 2018, 05:33:28 AM

And again it is impossible to break 12k.
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January 29, 2018, 06:19:06 AM

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January 29, 2018, 06:21:06 AM

Whenever I hear a bunch of exuberant comments about trains etc I know a brutal bulltrap is coming
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January 29, 2018, 06:56:12 AM

Chinese new year is a factor. Starts in 2 weeks. Will go up after.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoins-early-2018-woes-written-in-the-stars-and-moon

Doesn’t mean it can’t break bear market early though....

However China did ban this recently. Maybe they are out of the market.

I would not short bitcoin at this point. 🤔

Globalists may do so for the NWO though. 🙈
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January 29, 2018, 06:59:36 AM

Haha fuck.  Just saw the candle to 20,000 euros on Kraken on 13 January for BTC/Euro.  Fat fingers or short squeeze?!
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