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April 16, 2019, 10:12:09 AM |
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Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW. "This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear." https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569Here is my take on what this tweet tells us and also about Calvin's relationship/partnership with Craig right now. 1. Calvin really believes Craig is Satoshi, but he is not 100 percent sure bc of course he knows Craig pulled out of the proof he promised. 2. Calvin is heavily invested in Bitcoin Shit Version and its success so he has pushed aside any doubts about Craig being Satoshi for the sake of his ambitions and financial interests. Its always easiest to believe something is true if its what you want to be true. 3. Calvin has a lot of leverage with Craig because he is the money man in their endeavors. He has the real power in the relationship. 4. This tweet marks a huge turning point in their relationship. 5. Due to the immensely bad financial consequences of SV tanking over the delistings Craig's ego driven lawsuits cause, Calvin now is calling Craig out to come through with the cryptographic proof he promised. Thats why he calls it a duty now to set the record straight for "us all". The tweet subtext is simply - "Im your fucking boss Craig and you cost me a shit ton of money so now I demand you stop the bleeding and prove to me and everyone else that you are Satoshi so SV can get be legitimized in the eyes of the crypto world and my heavy bags wont become worthless after a few more delistings.!"We all know that Craig cant provide the cryptographic proof and doesnt have a million coins so this is the beginning of the end of the Craig and Calvin bromance. I predict soon they will be enemies, Calvin will defang Craig by defunding him, and of course Craig will lash out on Calvin like he does everyone else eventually. Craig is legit insane and its time someone opens up an investigation into his possible involvement of Dave Kleinman's untimely and early death bc I wouldnt put it past Craig to kill a friend(he may have actually killed Satoshi) for some private keys.
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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April 16, 2019, 10:43:50 AM |
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El duderino_
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April 16, 2019, 10:46:57 AM |
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April 16, 2019, 10:51:17 AM |
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Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW. "This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear." https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569If Craig managed to convince Gavin that he was Satoshi what chance does a judge have? Looks like he's doubling down on proving to judge (but not public) that CSW is Satoshi. Best case judge laughs at them and throws them out, worst case they convince the judge but keep the evidence sealed from public, so we'd have a ruling from some low level judge saying CSW is Satoshi
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April 16, 2019, 11:11:14 AM |
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Academics teaching the controversy incidentally admit defeat not just for little fraud pricks such as Craig Wright, but for all fiat financial institutions. https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/faculty-research/centres/alternative-finance/publications/cryptoasset-regulation/#.XLWdcYrTWf0https://archive.is/BGKOo...a valid signature does not automatically provide proof that the owner of the corresponding private key has produced the signature. Instead, it provides a guarantee that a holder of the private key has initiated the transaction. The use of a private key underpins the presumption that a transaction was authorised. In the context of cryptoassets, the notion of custody thus no longer refers to the direct holding of assets but to the secure storage of cryptographic keys. Despite this functional equivalence, it is far from straightforward that (exclusive) knowledge of a private key is equivalent for all purposes to legal possession.23 There is no title in bitcoin.
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El duderino_
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April 16, 2019, 11:13:24 AM |
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Here he is ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Good to see you back ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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HairyMaclairy
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April 16, 2019, 11:18:40 AM |
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I am not sure I understand the goals of libertarians. If they want to build their own country, they have to be able to defend it.
A small group of 40 - 50 heavily armed people will never do. A decent defense force means a large population and a taxation systems to support it. Gathering a large population is easy, you simply need to gather the world’s refugees and offer them something better. You might even gain the support of Western governments if you promise to take their unwanted refugee claimants. Israel was invented to house Jewish refugees and the model is replicable.
But all you have done is recreate the existing state system, with taxes. And that doesn’t seem to be the point.
I think their utopistic point is that in a libertarian world, organisations would adopt sound money (say, BTC) instead of FIAT Money (money that can be printed at will to finance any implausible war a government would want to fight), every nation-scale war would be simply too dear to finance, hence the necessity of every national scale defense would be unnecessary. F. A. Hayek once said: I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments. Another important point is the fundamental difference regarding the approach. In the current system the approach is TOP DOWN: you have to pay taxes because the government decided you have to. In the second system you have to pay the “fees” because you exercise the option to join that particular community. The outcome of paying might be similar, but the underlying logic is totally different. That’s an interesting point about wars being too expensive to fight. I will need to think about that further.
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April 16, 2019, 11:41:46 AM |
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Good morning WO brothers! We are still @ $5k +And, Liverpool is going to smash Porto tomorrow. I can feel it 🙂 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fg7e8ymEIGAHCw%2Fgiphy.gif&t=665&c=OtFZmb6VSEK5Lw)
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fillippone
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April 16, 2019, 12:03:24 PM Last edit: April 16, 2019, 12:19:05 PM by fillippone |
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I am not sure I understand the goals of libertarians. If they want to build their own country, they have to be able to defend it.
A small group of 40 - 50 heavily armed people will never do. A decent defense force means a large population and a taxation systems to support it. Gathering a large population is easy, you simply need to gather the world’s refugees and offer them something better. You might even gain the support of Western governments if you promise to take their unwanted refugee claimants. Israel was invented to house Jewish refugees and the model is replicable.
But all you have done is recreate the existing state system, with taxes. And that doesn’t seem to be the point.
I think their utopistic point is that in a libertarian world, organisations would adopt sound money (say, BTC) instead of FIAT Money (money that can be printed at will to finance any implausible war a government would want to fight), every nation-scale war would be simply too dear to finance, hence the necessity of every national scale defense would be unnecessary. F. A. Hayek once said: I do not think it is an exaggeration to say history is largely a history of inflation, usually inflations engineered by governments for the gain of governments. Another important point is the fundamental difference regarding the approach. In the current system the approach is TOP DOWN: you have to pay taxes because the government decided you have to. In the second system you have to pay the “fees” because you exercise the option to join that particular community. The outcome of paying might be similar, but the underlying logic is totally different. That’s an interesting point about wars being too expensive to fight. I will need to think about that further. It is not entirely my work. Theres' a lot about it in this excellent book: The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central BankingI would suggest everyone to read it, bitcoiner or nocoiner. Being a nocoiner after having read this book is acid test for stupidity stubbornness.
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April 16, 2019, 12:14:11 PM |
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BTW I'd change the title to "Merit source application" not "appeal". ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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fillippone
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April 16, 2019, 12:24:06 PM |
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Player Scores 161 BTC Single Spin Jackpot in Cloudbet’s Bitcoin CasinoTow humble considerations: - 1. Good luck retrieving those in case of a genuine win.
- 2. Something fishy here: there is the article, then a slot of advertisement and below this reading:
"This is a paid-for submitted press release. CCN does not endorse, nor is responsible for any material included below and isn’t responsible for any damages or losses connected with any products or services mentioned in the press release. CCN urges readers to conduct their own research with due diligence into the company, product or service mentioned in the press release." (bold font mine)
So probably a borderline scam website.
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JimboToronto
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Buenos dias Bitcoinland.
I see we've recovered a bit since the dip down under $5k... currently $5086USD/$6809CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
The battle for $5k rages on. _____
Bad new for the superstitious... I'm sitting in the airport waiting for my flight to Mexico City.
This wasn't planned. My lovely Mexican GF is having a medical emergency and is flying up to MC from Cancun this afternoon to see the far superior doctors in MC. I want to be waiting for her at the airport when she arrives to take care of her.
Hopefully we'll get her fixed within a week and I can fly back up for a week or so before flying back down to Cancun on April 29 for my final dental work.
If she had a passport I'd be bringing her with me. While we're in the big city maybe we can get her one.
Good news for the superstitious... I'll be flying back up in early June for the rainy season and will be in Canada until probably November after the hurricane season.
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April 16, 2019, 01:02:37 PM |
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April 16, 2019, 01:03:48 PM |
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Player Scores 161 BTC Single Spin Jackpot in Cloudbet’s Bitcoin CasinoTow humble considerations: - 1. Good luck retrieving those in case of a genuine win.
- 2. Something fishy here: there is the article, then a slot of advertisement and below this reading:
"This is a paid-for submitted press release. CCN does not endorse, nor is responsible for any material included below and isn’t responsible for any damages or losses connected with any products or services mentioned in the press release. CCN urges readers to conduct their own research with due diligence into the company, product or service mentioned in the press release." (bold font mine)
So probably a borderline scam website.
All gambling is borderline scam. The entertainment argument is very weak. Poker & co are not gambling.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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April 16, 2019, 01:05:23 PM |
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'ello boys^ ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ello! 😋 Good to see you back. 🙂
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fillippone
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April 16, 2019, 01:24:05 PM |
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[SNIP] So probably a borderline scam website. [/li] [/list]
All gambling is borderline scam. The entertainment argument is very weak. Poker & co are not gambling. I do agree, I mean, gambling website are borderline on the wrong (scam) side of the border!
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