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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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April 11, 2019, 11:41:03 PM

#HODLsleep

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April 11, 2019, 11:41:47 PM
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The point about a $15 wage demand at McDonalds, leading to workers being replaced with $35k kiosks, was an example of capitalism and the free market responding to stimulus.

I do automation for a living and am all for $35k kiosks. I also understand well the limits of automation and the need for humans to mop up any deviations.  

The minimum wage in Australia is A$22 which is US$15.60. We have full employment here in Australia (5% unemployment rate).  

If your business is so shit you can’t afford to pay a living wage, then you deserve to go out of business. I’m looking at you, Walmart.
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April 11, 2019, 11:43:09 PM

Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Yeah right...  



A purported black gay man complaining that other socially marginalized people are getting too many societal protections, including access to basic life choices.

The irony.. the irony.
Wow another liberal expecting black or gays to have to be brainwashed into believing they need to pay for people who break the law and make it harder for the legal citizens who need jobs.

Just remember JJG is the extreme left gets their way with their craziness you think mining won't be illegal in the US? Look what they want with the green new deal.

There is nothing wrong with having opinions about various political subjects, and expressing those opinions, but if you are buying into the political rhetoric of self-absorbed narcissist and likely self-dealing inability to contorl emotional criminal (namely Trump in this case), I question your thinking and your ability to work within established social systems.. but whatever.. who gives many ratt's asses about these kinds of matter?  

I was merely pointing out an apparent irony with someone (Bob) who is taking a strong exclusionary stance, and yeah, when strong policies are enacted, there are likely a large number of rippling effects through other parts of the system whether talking about extreme right or extreme left.... and I am not even expressing my own views here except that I don't consider governmental systems to be hostile to the will of the people.. even if those systems might have decent amounts of corruption that may need tweakings in various ways.. and perhaps bitcoin is going to provide some of those better incentive and accountability systems into the future.. we will see.. we will see.
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April 11, 2019, 11:44:59 PM

Please let STFU Thursday JJG kindly flow into STFU Friday JJG

Just a friendly WO suggestion.

If jbreher is able to survive through his first Wednesday, relatively unblemished, then who am I to proclaim that you guys and gal are completely foolish in your inability to focus, childish endeavors?   Embarrassed



Getting philosophically deep here... Whoaza!!!!!
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April 11, 2019, 11:46:34 PM

Bob surely produces mixed messages (like paying 1% for 7 fig btc tx is OK, but $15/hr for MickeyD is too much).

 I place value on having the peace of mind knowing I'm not likely to run into issues, and things will move smoothly for me.

 Same reason I hire accountants.
 Same reason I hire lawyers.
 Same reason I have people managing my portfolios.
 Same reason I hire people to do jobs that I'm not skilled at.
 Same reason I pay a slight premium at Gemini (not 1%) for my trades.

https://gemini.com/trading-fee-schedule/#trading-fee-schedule


 The point about a $15 wage demand at McDonalds, leading to workers being replaced with $35k kiosks, was an example of capitalism and the free market responding to stimulus.

OK, fine re McD.

Maybe I addressed a wrong person, and if so, I apologize, but I got a bit tired of multiple people here harping on labor.
Example: In Texas you can be fired for no cause and nobody needs to explain anything to you.
Additionally, it is legal in Texas to essentially rob temps of their wages by dismissing them earlier from their fully scheduled shift.
Thankfully, I am not a temp, but I did witness this on multiple occasions (via relative).
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April 11, 2019, 11:59:15 PM


I am working on something like this, for the monthly statistics of the current year in this format, I will improve the presentation, and historical statistics in an quote format.

Ok?

Maybe you could show % change in posts and % change in price.  That might make it easier to compare

If it is an option to contemplate.

From what I see, you are the only one interested. Cheesy

Thx, HM
Not quite. I was nodding in silence to keep the noise floor in check.
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April 12, 2019, 12:13:32 AM
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Of course, I am still not convinced that this market has transitioned into anything beyond further consolidation.. even if there are recent bullish tendencies in the past month or so and especially in the past couple of weeks.

But, projections of impending new lows, borders on wishful thinking to me, even while we cannot really rule out that the bottom is NOT in...

For example, if we stay above $4,200 in the coming weeks, then I might just switch over to considering this a bull market, at that time.

TLDR: The next two weeks = critical

Yes, this phase of consolidation is more likely to continue. Whilst we may be at the start of an uptrend, the likelihood of a new low has not receded that much (hazard a guess at 35% ?)

I would add one more , possibly useful, comment :

The break down from $6200 was sharp, and showed the weakness of support in the zone between 6k and 4k. This is often mirrored on the way up, therefore resistance is likely to be weak, hence the ease with which price has risen in the last couple of months. Assuming the bottom is in (balance of probability only),
there could still be a lot of work to do (and time to spend) in this area, before any decisive further advance.

Pessimistic scenario :  5-6k needed revisiting and testing before a new low.

Optimistic scenario :  5-6k will work out and consolidate over a few more months, providing the base for a 2020 uptrend.
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April 12, 2019, 12:33:27 AM

The point about a $15 wage demand at McDonalds, leading to workers being replaced with $35k kiosks, was an example of capitalism and the free market responding to stimulus.

Where I live they get less than $15 per day in most service jobs, plus tips!
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April 12, 2019, 12:41:19 AM
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That is unkind Jay. We have no reason to think Bob is anyone other than exactly who he says he is.
Do youn't? It's just internet persona. We know it's a team, even if no show off with audio wavs clinking garbage collection or pics of ball caved steel blocks - like some other peep team post exotic islands, food porn and digital hat displays.

Sorry for english, my today subsitute copy editor not very proficient.
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April 12, 2019, 12:47:11 AM
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Do youn't? It's just internet persona. We know it's a team, even if no show off with audio wavs clinking garbage collection or pics of ball caved steel blocks - like some other peep team post exotic islands, food porn and digital hat displays.

Sorry for english, my today subsitute copy editor not very proficient.

Satoshi aside, I wonder who here puts the most effort into putting people off the real life scent with the persona they maintain on here. I've no idea how people keep it up for years on end but I'm sure a few do.


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April 12, 2019, 12:49:16 AM

Are you suggesting you are not actually a pervert IRL?
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April 12, 2019, 12:51:31 AM

Are you suggesting you are not actually a pervert IRL?

Am I one on here? Everything I do throbs with purity.
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Pity our immaculate gentleman snubs haikus.

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April 12, 2019, 12:57:52 AM

Madame Alexa knows how many Bitcoin you have

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April 12, 2019, 12:58:54 AM

Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?

In the interests of National Security, yes.

Problem solved. US immigration controls are already extremely effective. I'd like to see you try to enter the US without your ID/Passport. And then get a job/bank account/etc without an ID or SS#.
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April 12, 2019, 01:02:24 AM

Good evening folks.

Market consolidation continues at the $5k battlefront as neither side seems able to gain a foothold. Stronger resistance is forming near $5.12k  Support is falling from $4.7k to $4.66k as shown by the cloud. Possible downwards and sideways movement detected. #dyor
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April 12, 2019, 01:15:10 AM

A simple fact:

in 1975 the minimal wage was $5.15
in 2019 the minimal wage is $7.25

Well, $5.15 adjusted for inflation would be $24.33 today, so $15 number is not crazy.

Bob surely produces mixed messages (like paying 1% for 7 fig btc tx is OK, but $15/hr for MickeyD is too much).
The rich are different..., but I liked him more during drinking period...


I had to look this up bc I remember making 4.25 in high school decades after 1975.

Looks like minimum wage was 2.10 in '75.


I believe minimum wage is morally wrong because it makes it illegal for you to sell your labor for under a certain price. This prices out some people out of the work force against their will. I see it as somewhat useful in a fiat currency system where the workers are getting constant de facto pay cuts each day as the currency is debased through money printing. These workers cant negotiate pay raises fast enough to keep up with the de facto pay cuts.

When Bitcoin is the global reserve currency and all sane workers demand to be paid in Bitcoin, de facto pay cuts will be a thing of the past and minimum wage wont be useful at all. Workers will have all the bargaining power. Begging bosses or govs for raises each year wont be necessary as workers will have de facto pay raises as the currency gains value. When Bitcoin gains value too fast for some employers to successfully stay in business, then employers will have to come hat in hand and beg the workers to take less Bitcoin so they can stay in business.

This change in the power dynamic of employee/employer wage negotiation will usher in a prosperity the world has never witnessed.

6k soon.
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April 12, 2019, 01:16:16 AM

I am not supporting illegal migration.  I am simply stating that much of the US economy runs on illegal migrant labor.  This is a fact.  
A fact that needs to change. Even it crashes the local economy. America will adapt, always has, always will.

And no, American teenagers do not want to pick bell peppers out of the dirt in the blazing sun for $2 per hour.  
And that's their whole fucking problem, isn't it? Coddled, spoiled, privileged, sitting on their fat asses drinking their $4 lattes and eating $7 avocado toast and $9 millionaire's bacon. All the while crying about illegals taking their jobs.

But no worries, when the world economy goes to shit... they'll learn... by picking free grown bell peppers in the blazing sun out of their back yards just to eat.

I had to google millionaire's bacon. I must try this soon. Smiley
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April 12, 2019, 01:17:50 AM

I definitely bet $5k is breaking tonight.


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