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I have collected extensive empirical data and come to the conclusion that...booze doesn't help
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May 21, 2019, 03:32:59 PM

Jimbo, is u buying/pumping that sh*t??

No, I'm just holding as always. I'm still in Quintana Roo, Mexico and there's no real Bitcoin infrastructure here.

I do all my trading in cash, mostly OTC but occasionally at ATMs, anonymously in Toronto.

My dental work hit a snag when I found out one of my implants failed and rather than proceeding with only 15 implants I decided to get additional bone grafts and take an extra half year to try again with a stronger implant. No sense doing a half-assed job. I'm still getting my lower teeth installed now though. Just had a trial fitting yesterday and we're hoping to get the final Zirconia done next week.

As a result, I don't have to spend all the USD cash I brought down over the course of the winter to pay for my final teeth. What this means is that I won't have to sell any Bitcoin when I get back to Toronto to pay down my credit card and pay my bills. I might even have enough left over to buy some more Bitcoin. Hopefully by the time I have to buy more dollars next year, my bitcoins will be worth a lot more.

My Bitcoin strategy has always been to buy whenever possible, preferably on a dip, and sell only when absolutely necessary. Keep holding, keep getting richer as Bitcoin keeps getting scarcer, and live happily ever after. So far it's been working like a charm.
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May 21, 2019, 03:45:48 PM
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Bitcoin is open source. You cant file a copyright over it.


You can file the copyright -- anyone can. Whether or not it will be granted is a whole 'nother story.

According to this article, the copyright was already granted to be effective as of April 11, 2019.

https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

Take a look at https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/05/21/craig-wright-registers-us-copyright-in-bitcoin-0-1-and-the-bitcoin-white-paper-what-this-means/

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What can Wright do with this?

Not a lot, really.

Registration is considered prima facie evidence of the claims in the registration — if the registration occurs within five years of first publication. That’s not the case here.

Wright might have some problems suing for copyright violation — for instance, if he wanted to sue those “protocol developer groups” he claims “bastardized” Bitcoin. The software was licensed under the open-source MIT License, which allows all manner of reuse, open or proprietary. The license text is:

    Copyright (c) 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto
    Distributed under the MIT/X11 software license, see the accompanying
    file license.txt or http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php.

The license granted is:

    Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the “Software”), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

    The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

That is — the MIT License is explicitly a grant of rights to do whatever the hell you like with the software, as long as you include the notice text.

Open source licenses are generally treated as perpetual and irrevocable. There is also estoppel — you can’t release software, encourage its reuse, wait ten years and then sue people for using it under the license you released it under.

So it’s entirely unclear what Wright or nChain get out of this registration. Apart from unimpressed press coverage.
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“Registering a copyright is just filing a form. The Copyright Office does not investigate the validity of the claim; they just register it. Unfortunately there is no official way to challenge a registration. If there are competing claims, the Office will just register all of them.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/self-proclaimed-satoshi-craig-wright-files-us-copyright-registrations-for-btc-white-paper

We should ALL file and individually sue him for infringement.
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May 21, 2019, 03:57:46 PM
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Bah. Depression sucks. Decided I'm getting drunk today.

Again.

*sighs*

Grow Bitcorn grow, tho. Once it breaches $10k, I'm thinking of rage-selling a chunk of corn to subsidize Rick's retirement.

Being retired, alone, kinda sucks. Dealing with Rick venting about (((them))) is starting to get to me, in a really bad way, and driving a wedge between us. Growing resentment, over a few years now, is going to become a breaking point sooner than later.

The human condition is a colossal bag of shit.

On the bright side at least you have that choice, if not just go take a month vacation somewhere, anywhere. ITs fun to just go someplace you have never been. Pop in on long lost relatives, rent a place down the street and hang out. Just get out of the house and meet new people, it will be like a breath of fresh air. I flew cross country to buy a car and was going to drive it back but decided to see some people on the other side and ended op taking 6 months to do what I was going to do in a week and had the time of my life doing it. Smiley
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May 21, 2019, 04:07:28 PM

Jimbo, is u buying/pumping that sh*t??

No, I'm just holding as always. I'm still in Quintana Roo, Mexico and there's no real Bitcoin infrastructure here.

I do all my trading in cash, mostly OTC but occasionally at ATMs, anonymously in Toronto.

My dental work hit a snag when I found out one of my implants failed and rather than proceeding with only 15 implants I decided to get additional bone grafts and take an extra half year to try again with a stronger implant. No sense doing a half-assed job. I'm still getting my lower teeth installed now though. Just had a trial fitting yesterday and we're hoping to get the final Zirconia done next week.

Shit that sucks man, It will be worth it in the end but I had a few failures and it does take years to get the shit right before they put them in. I still have  some temp ones while they are making the perm ones and its funny that the nicotine gum I'm chewing gets stuck to the temp ones. I mean it is like glue on them!
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May 21, 2019, 04:26:13 PM

neglected your titanium training recently

Titanium training remains as a firm morning ritual.

Does little to salve the pain of existential angst, however.

It's kinda fucked up in a way. Retire. Read more philosophy. See how partner is suffering. See how self needs are not being met. Try to reconcile all that selfish shit in my mind about what is more important: Our overall life together benefits vs my personal relationship needs not being met.

Therapy: It does nothing. No need to adjust meds, in my own mind, and therapist agrees.

Bah.

Life is meaningless.

EDIT: And NO. There is no need to worry about me. Not suicidal at all, if anyone was concerned about my state of mind. I have way too much to live for, and still so much I want to accomplish with what time I have left in this plane of existence.

EDIT2: And yeah, glad I have that fuckwit JJG on ignore. A pathetic example of an utterly impotent peacock.

Chin up Bob. I would take Heuristic's advice and just go and have a break, on your own if Rick can't get time off. Take time to appreciate the little things. Any sports take your fancy? How about a new hobby?
I am sure you will get through it.
Good luck.
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May 21, 2019, 04:27:18 PM

Bah. Depression sucks. Decided I'm getting drunk today.

Again.

*sighs*

Grow Bitcorn grow, tho. Once it breaches $10k, I'm thinking of rage-selling a chunk of corn to subsidize Rick's retirement.

Being retired, alone, kinda sucks. Dealing with Rick venting about (((them))) is starting to get to me, in a really bad way, and driving a wedge between us. Growing resentment, over a few years now, is going to become a breaking point sooner than later.

The human condition is a colossal bag of shit.

Don’t let anything come between you guys, BTC-Will be in time for both of u, Then buy the F***ing ranch and live the rest of your lives there with nothing on your mind except inviting me and my old lady to see the place and have abeer eeeuhm good wine.... Wink

And indeed go BTC go !!!!!
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May 21, 2019, 05:29:36 PM
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neglected your titanium training recently

Titanium training remains as a firm morning ritual.

Does little to salve the pain of existential angst, however.

It's kinda fucked up in a way. Retire. Read more philosophy. See how partner is suffering. See how self needs are not being met. Try to reconcile all that selfish shit in my mind about what is more important: Our overall life together benefits vs my personal relationship needs not being met.

Therapy: It does nothing. No need to adjust meds, in my own mind, and therapist agrees.

Bah.

Life is meaningless.

EDIT: And NO. There is no need to worry about me. Not suicidal at all, if anyone was concerned about my state of mind. I have way too much to live for, and still so much I want to accomplish with what time I have left in this plane of existence.

EDIT2: And yeah, glad I have that fuckwit JJG on ignore. A pathetic example of an utterly impotent peacock.

Bill Hicks said it best

"The world is like a ride in an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace."

Edit: Try microdosing your fungus Bob
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May 21, 2019, 05:44:55 PM

Breaking: Bitcoin SV’s Craig S Wright Changes Nationality

https://twitter.com/Todays_Gazette/status/1130888090657218560

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May 21, 2019, 05:59:37 PM

Bob has always been an emotional wreck as far back as I can remember.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Tongue

No need to remind him right now   Roll Eyes

hahahahaha

It's not about "need."  It's about irresistible impulses.  Didn't you know?

Don't you know that on the interwebs, peeps enjoy kicking other peeps when down?

I have witnessed a similar phenomena even with myself... there is a kind of piling on effect, and someone has got to start it, no?





Why not me? 

Anyhow, I am not "civilized" enough to refrain myself.. you should know that....     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy       Wink
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May 21, 2019, 06:00:56 PM

Tether admits in court to investing some of its reserves in bitcoin

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/05/21/tether-admits-in-court-to-investing-some-of-its-reserves-in-bitcoin/

"-In a court transcript obtained exclusively by The Block, Tether admits that it invested some of its reserves in bitcoin

-David Miller, an attorney for Bitfinex said: “Tether actually did invest in instruments beyond cash and cash equivalents, including bitcoin.”

-New York Supreme Court judge Joel M. Cohen questioned the logic. He said: “Tether sounded to me like sort of the calm in the storm of cryptocurrency trading. And so if Tether is backed by bitcoin, how is that consistent? If some of your assets are in a volatile currency that Tether is supposed to somehow modulate, that seems like it’s playing into what they are saying.”

Full transcript :
https://t.co/2S8yXmcrti?amp=1
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Hello da 8
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EDIT2: And yeah, glad I have that fuckwit JJG on ignore. A pathetic example of an utterly impotent peacock.

Yeah right.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

  It seems like a real great idea to share lots of personal information (whether made up or not) on the interwebs, and likely it would be better to just spout out actual made up shit, rather than to actually share too many personal details because in that regard, if other peeps are responding to your posts (in a way that is not emotionally tolerable), then at least it would be much easier to handle..

In other words, anyone who posts too much personal information on the interwebs and expecting sympathy from quasi-anonymous avatars, seem to be inviting their own psychological issues.

Smarter guys (and gal) here seem to refrain from sharing too many personal details (whether true or not), yet of course, there can be times when a certain amount of "seemingly personal details" might be helpful to making various thread "on-topic" related points.. ... so maybe there could be some value in your posts, in terms of other peeps learning that there remains a decent amount of value to attempt to at least try to retain some on-topicness in your posts and to keep out certain kinds of personal details that might be a bit too sensitive in the event that other peeps don't respond in the way you like (which seems almost inevitable on the interwebs  - as inevitable as bitcoin's volatility, which seems to be about 99.9993294367% certain - approximately..... Wink  )
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May 21, 2019, 06:21:08 PM

Bitcoin is open source. You cant file a copyright over it.


You can file the copyright -- anyone can. Whether or not it will be granted is a whole 'nother story.

According to this article, the copyright was already granted to be effective as of April 11, 2019.

https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

Take a look at https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/05/21/craig-wright-registers-us-copyright-in-bitcoin-0-1-and-the-bitcoin-white-paper-what-this-means/

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What can Wright do with this?

Not a lot, really.

Registration is considered prima facie evidence of the claims in the registration — if the registration occurs within five years of first publication. That’s not the case here.

Wright might have some problems suing for copyright violation — for instance, if he wanted to sue those “protocol developer groups” he claims “bastardized” Bitcoin. The software was licensed under the open-source MIT License, which allows all manner of reuse, open or proprietary. The license text is:

    Copyright (c) 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto
    Distributed under the MIT/X11 software license, see the accompanying
    file license.txt or http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php.

The license granted is:

    Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the “Software”), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

    The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

That is — the MIT License is explicitly a grant of rights to do whatever the hell you like with the software, as long as you include the notice text.

Open source licenses are generally treated as perpetual and irrevocable. There is also estoppel — you can’t release software, encourage its reuse, wait ten years and then sue people for using it under the license you released it under.

So it’s entirely unclear what Wright or nChain get out of this registration. Apart from unimpressed press coverage.

Thanks for that. 

The registration seems to get them a bcash sv pump and dump and bitcoin bashing / FUD spreading opportunity.
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May 21, 2019, 06:27:37 PM

Good evening WO!

Observing $8,009

There is a news around about Craig F Wrong that he has been granted U.S. copyright as the author of Bitcoin whitepaper and source codes?

What the F**k is that?
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neglected your titanium training recently

Titanium training remains as a firm morning ritual.

Does little to salve the pain of existential angst, however.

It's kinda fucked up in a way. Retire. Read more philosophy. See how partner is suffering. See how self needs are not being met. Try to reconcile all that selfish shit in my mind about what is more important: Our overall life together benefits vs my personal relationship needs not being met.

Therapy: It does nothing. No need to adjust meds, in my own mind, and therapist agrees.

Bah.

Life is meaningless.

EDIT: And NO. There is no need to worry about me. Not suicidal at all, if anyone was concerned about my state of mind. I have way too much to live for, and still so much I want to accomplish with what time I have left in this plane of existence.

EDIT2: And yeah, glad I have that fuckwit JJG on ignore. A pathetic example of an utterly impotent peacock.

Sorry, but your post is screaming for help, so i will give you my 2 satoshis of knowledge from an internet stranger:

You may have to change your partner and/or therapist asap.

That's not a joke, just a crude interpretation of what you wrote above, given free from a fellow bitcoiner  Wink
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May 21, 2019, 06:36:54 PM

Good evening WO!

Observing $8,009

There is a news around about Craig F Wrong that he has been granted U.S. copyright as the author of Bitcoin whitepaper and source codes?

What the F**k is that?

Mission accomplished for just $35. Tongue
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I have collected extensive empirical data and come to the conclusion that...booze doesn't help

Actually Homer Simpson may have uttered the best words ever about it:

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