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May 13, 2019, 07:00:09 AM

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Its this limit of supply that works to eventually counter any price manipulation games.

Exactly!!... And, each of us likely know that even though bitcoin has a limited supply and an ability for individuals to immediately demand their private keys, institutions are going to try to manipulate bitcoin, but there are likely going to be some learning involved from individuals to realize that they can keep institutions in check by demanding their private keys.

It will take a while for these matters to play out (game theory or whatever), but one of the powerful aspects of bitcoin remains the power of the people to exercise control over their asset in an immediate way.
Yes, but sadly plenty of laypeople will be taken advantage of simply for not knowing the basics.  This stuff is still too knew.

I still remember when I was little and taught in class about how to use and count pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, etc.  Does anyone here recall getting taught the basics of bitcoin in the first grade?  Of course not, because this tech is only ten years old.

It may be a generation later before everyone knows the basics enough to defend their stash of coins.
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Its a nonsensical argument since bitcoin is designed to be like cash, or rather better than cash.

That was the most nonsensical argument I've ever heard in this thread, even dwarfing that of JayJuanGee jibberish.  Absolutely nothing has changed from Hal Finney's original statement about Bitcoin functioning only as a settlement system.  Lightning Network is a giant, ultra-centralized flop that's just an exact recreation of the already existing banking system.
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May 13, 2019, 07:20:47 AM

Voted $10000-$20000 because... reasons  Cool
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May 13, 2019, 07:21:21 AM

Its now Monday in most of the world, voting day here in the PI (no alcohol for sale all day boo....), but I have a new haiku anyway:

Yay, a new laptop!
Can thank BTC for that.
Goodbye phone posting!
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I find it amusing how the somewhat maligned teenagers in their parents basements making charts on tradingview and crypto twitter have issued better calls than many of these "experts".

It's scientifically proven that experts are not very good at predicting the future. Interesting article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/how-to-predict-the-future/588040/

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The integrators outperformed their colleagues in pretty much every way, but especially trounced them on long-term predictions. Eventually, Tetlock bestowed nicknames on the experts he’d observed: The highly specialized hedgehogs knew “one big thing,” while the integrator foxes knew “many little things.”

Hedgehogs are deeply and tightly focused. Some have spent their career studying one problem. They fashion tidy theories of how the world works based on observations through the single lens of their specialty. Foxes, meanwhile, “draw from an eclectic array of traditions, and accept ambiguity and contradiction,” Tetlock wrote. Where hedgehogs represent narrowness, foxes embody breadth.

Incredibly, the hedgehogs performed especially poorly on long-term predictions within their specialty. They got worse as they accumulated experience and credentials in their field. The more information they had to work with, the more easily they could fit any story into their worldview.

In Tetlock’s 20-year study, both the broad foxes and the narrow hedgehogs were quick to let a successful prediction reinforce their beliefs. But when an outcome took them by surprise, foxes were much more likely to adjust their ideas. Hedgehogs barely budged. Some made authoritative predictions that turned out to be wildly wrong—then updated their theories in the wrong direction. They became even more convinced of the original beliefs that had led them astray. The best forecasters, by contrast, view their own ideas as hypotheses in need of testing. If they make a bet and lose, they embrace the logic of a loss just as they would the reinforcement of a win. This is called, in a word, learning.
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May 13, 2019, 08:09:58 AM

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You're comment reminded me of a conversation I had with a no-coiner a few summers back.  He was certainly a negative nancy to all my comments about bitcoin.  Finally it came down to me asking him "so would you ever consider buying some bitcoin?", to which he replied "yes, but not until it has become commonplace, and less volatile."

And so I says, that may not happen until it has reached $ 1 million, are you sure you'd wait until then?  And his response was "yes". ...

He may have been serious, or maybe just spiteful, its tough to say.  The best analysis I have of this is to compare it to the invention of the telephone.  There are some that would buy it right away, to have the newest thing, and then there are some that would wait until everyone has a phone before buying it, because why would you own it if hardly anyone you knew had one.  I realize the differences between these two inventions, but I'm just trying to rationalize of waiting to buy bitcoin at $ 1 million.

It might just be that some are happy to wait until it becomes a household item like a telephone, or a teapot, and they have no interest in making extra money on its path to that end.



I would say his responses are more indicative of his fear of loss as well as need to stay with the herd.

Many people exhibit this irrational response to a highly speculative investment.  They are not willing to risk any small loss, even for the prospect of a very large gain. 'Safety' in that type of view, is worth more than any potential reward from a gamble.
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May 13, 2019, 08:17:31 AM

Keep pulling until the bull run comes.


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May 13, 2019, 08:34:30 AM

Its now Monday in most of the world, voting day here in the PI (no alcohol for sale all day boo....), but I have a new haiku anyway:

Yay, a new laptop!
Can thank BTC for that.
Goodbye phone posting!

Good, which  one did you buy Smiley
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7052 $ @the moment, Monday feels better as a few months weeks back!

Lambie update the baby Bull please.....

Gyrsur, where is that brick of gold? ------> F*ck was just typing that one!

How many seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks are critical?

HM, fear and greed update?

r0ach, keep making noise Roll Eyes

LFC, chin up 2nd place is pity but still big achievement with 97 points and a Final place @champions league, lets take that one home!

kenzawak, living the dream visiting nice spots Smiley COOL man Grin

boblawblaw, you must be more active during these pumps, we need you Smiley

XhomerX, yeah what can we say only one word awesome, keep doing your sh*t man

jjg, slow down, don't feed the troll to much

And so many things to say, but f*ck gotta go to a place ........ Have a good day brothers

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May 13, 2019, 09:18:20 AM

Its now Monday in most of the world, voting day here in the PI (no alcohol for sale all day boo....), but I have a new haiku anyway:

Yay, a new laptop!
Can thank BTC for that.
Goodbye phone posting!

Good, which  one did you buy Smiley

Its a HP ProBook, thanks for asking. Not very glamorous but it will get the job done!

They put a 70% tax on imported electrical goods here, and since they don't make their own computers, its really a bitch to find a decent laptop at a reasonable price. Don't know why they do that -- its like they are making it harder for their own people to be technologically competitive. Its really hard to find a job online if you are trying to make a resume on your cell phone.

They have 1 cell phone manufacturer, called MyPhone, and while the name sounds a bit cheesy I bought my girlfriend one of their tablets over a year ago for $60 and it still works great. It really was life changing for her. I would buy their brand laptop if they made one.
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May 13, 2019, 09:18:21 AM

@mic - I’m not too disappointed because we have the CL Final to come. I’d rather win that any way, much more prestigious trophy.

I’m off to Budapest tomorrow for 4 days, going to try & find some cool bitcoin cate’s or something to show you guys.

$7,000 feels great doesn’t it. $3189 or whatever the bottom was looks so far away now doesn’t it.
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May 13, 2019, 09:33:58 AM

.....

You're comment reminded me of a conversation I had with a no-coiner a few summers back.  He was certainly a negative nancy to all my comments about bitcoin.  Finally it came down to me asking him "so would you ever consider buying some bitcoin?", to which he replied "yes, but not until it has become commonplace, and less volatile."

And so I says, that may not happen until it has reached $ 1 million, are you sure you'd wait until then?  And his response was "yes". ...

He may have been serious, or maybe just spiteful, its tough to say.  The best analysis I have of this is to compare it to the invention of the telephone.  There are some that would buy it right away, to have the newest thing, and then there are some that would wait until everyone has a phone before buying it, because why would you own it if hardly anyone you knew had one.  I realize the differences between these two inventions, but I'm just trying to rationalize of waiting to buy bitcoin at $ 1 million.

It might just be that some are happy to wait until it becomes a household item like a telephone, or a teapot, and they have no interest in making extra money on its path to that end.



I would say his responses are more indicative of his fear of loss as well as need to stay with the herd.

Many people exhibit this irrational response to a highly speculative investment.  They are not willing to risk any small loss, even for the prospect of a very large gain. 'Safety' in that type of view, is worth more than any potential reward from a gamble.
Yes, this is something I've noticed with most.  Naturally, why would they wish to risk anything on something they don't quite understand.  I know I wouldn't spend money on something that didn't make sense to me or I didn't find a use for.

But as time passes, knowledge of a new technology slowly seeps into the common lexicon, and in turn creating new bull runs.
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May 13, 2019, 09:37:41 AM

This fools’ rally has set us back for at least another year.
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May 13, 2019, 09:47:04 AM

That recent dump was pathetic.

Next stop is $8000 - $9000.
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May 13, 2019, 09:49:48 AM

I bet if we stay at these levels for 24-36 more hours, the bears will come out and drop it to sub 6k or lower. I remember this pattern from the past.
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May 13, 2019, 09:54:14 AM

why would they wish to risk anything on something they don't quite understand.  

This dumb comment is virtually identical to black people's explanation for 'raycism' - "they just be ignorant".  No, white people are racist due to knowledge, not because "ignorance".  They know the crime statistics have blacks committing violent crimes at a rate of something like 10x higher than everyone else.  They're not avoiding moving to Detroit because of ignorance.

Same with bitcoin. I'm not "scared" or "ignorant" of bitcoin.  I'm not all-in on digital shitcoins because I know TOO MUCH about them and know they have zero fundamentals because they're designed to centralize.  You clueless scammers with barely any knowledge about how these things work keep parotting nonsensical slogans when it's not even possible to create a decentralized digital currency in the first place.  Transaction validators are always designed to centralize; combine that with tokens being non-fungible and you have a completely dystopian permissioned ledger.
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May 13, 2019, 09:58:53 AM

This is going much faster than expected.

And things can go even much faster in the coming weeks and months.


All these tiny bumps on the way up are super bullish.

Lets keep that price for some time for some good growth and lets have a new ATH this year,
i know it sounds crazy and unreal but this correction from the low in the winter is so surprising to alot of people that we can have a big FOMO run and then a nice correction before the halvening.
That will give us lots of media attention that is needed for the super run after the halvening.
That will be the start of the mass adaption run, before that it will be the run for the people who heard of crypto in 2017 and 2018 and are watching right now with money on their hand and are undecided yet.


So good to have this run out of the dark zone and closer to the light.


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May 13, 2019, 10:02:25 AM

This fools’ rally has set us back for at least another year.

Maybe you'll get lucky and it's insider trading front running some type of event.  I clicked the (((Alex Jones show))) today to see what type of nonsense he was talking about and he was shilling FOR the overthrow of Venezeula AND for war with Iran LOL.  He's not even trying to hide it anymore the only purpose of his show is to try and deflect attention away from the Jews for things like 9/11 (USS Liberty 2.0) and now to read line by line verbatim Mossad propaganda.
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May 13, 2019, 10:02:38 AM

Nice to see the price rising when checking it once a week only Smiley

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