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[Gyrsur]

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[JSRAW]

#stronghands

99.99% users in WO Board see any dump as a new opportunity to fill their stash. Most of us looking at 5-10 year period, no one care about weekly dump much and don't forget some of us are still short with #fuckyoumoney status . they will keep buying any drop, slowly and silently.

[StartupAnalyst]

Yesterday, we made an aromatic pizza  as a sign of memory.

[Gyrsur]

SHUWasabi

indeed, a very good starting point for Bitcoin privacy is:

https://wasabiwallet.io
https://samouraiwallet.com

Repeated dishonesty from Samourai have barred them from ever receiving a payout from the bounty as far as I am concerned: I will not be signing a transaction paying them. Evaluating the privacy of systems is difficult even when the involved parties are honest and easy to work with, it is far too difficult when they are actively misleading.  Personally, I would urge my friends to not use that wallet.
snip~

ymmv

DYOR Dude!

I did it for him in the post above yours.

thank you! more stuff for privacy DYOR:

https://grin-tech.org
https://github.com/mimblewimble/docs/wiki/Getting-Started-With-Grin%3A-Links-and-Resources
https://medium.com/@grincoin/where-to-buy-grin-coins-2ba6bbff2387
https://howtobuygrin.com

EDIT: of course only w/o "Mandatory KYC"!

more DYOR stuff on privacy from theymos.

Most "tumblers", like the now-defunct bestmixer.io or even ChipMixer, aren't great because they are needlessly expensive, you're trusting the service not to run away with your coins, and you're trusting the service not to keep logs. Maybe they're the best current solution for small amounts where lasting anonymity isn't mission-critical, but in most cases you shouldn't use them.

Anonymity is very difficult, especially with blockchain-based systems where so much data has to be public, but also in other areas (eg. there are several known weaknesses with Tor). You should always operate with the expectation that any anonymity system you use will eventually fail you. If you're ever confident in your anonymity, then you're wrong.

That said, there are two halfway-decent mixing methods currently:

#1 - Wasabi wallet

The Wasabi wallet uses CoinJoin in order to anonymize BTC.

 - Pros: Easy to use; fairly cheap ~0.15% fee; pretty good privacy; automatically uses Tor
 - Cons: ~0.1BTC minimum; with a great deal of effort and investigation, transaction analysis may still be possible, especially if you leave other traces; the coordinator could possibly do an active sybil attack against specific coins

#2 - Monero

Monero is not a magic black box which provides perfect anonymity! If you use eg. flyp.me to buy XMR and then quickly sell this XMR on flyp.me again, it is blatantly obvious to flyp.me what you've done (if they keep logs), both due to the amounts and the specific Monero inputs used. In order to get decent privacy, you have to do something like this:
 1. Convert BTC to XMR (using your own Monero wallet, not a hosted wallet).
 2. In two or more transactions of random amounts, move XMR from that wallet to a different wallet/account.
 3. Optionally, you can repeat the above step with additional wallets/accounts for greater anonymity.
 4. Preferably in two or more transactions of random amounts, convert the XMR in your last wallet in the chain to BTC.
 
Ideally, all of the above should be performed over as long a period of time as you can tolerate.

 - Pros: Possibly the best anonymity, especially if you're able to stay within the XMR ecosystem to some extent
 - Cons: You should use Tor with Monero, but you have to set this up manually; it's all more difficult; you're exposed to exchange rate risk; transaction fees may be significant

Anonymity comparison between the two

Both Wasabi and Monero can be thought of in terms of "anonymity sets". If you're spending some BTC with an anonymity set of 50, this means that an observer can see that the sender is one of 50 people, but they can't tell which. So someone investigating a particular transaction you sent would have you "in their sights" to a certain extent from the start since you're among the 50, but in order to prove that you sent it, they'd have to either eliminate 49 other people from consideration or find some other evidence linking you to it.

Wasabi always aims for an anonymity set of 50 when mixing. Monero has an anonymity set of 11 per transaction. If you cascade transactions as I suggest above, then this multiplies, so after two transactions you have an anonymity set of 11*11=121, and after a cascade of three you'd have an anonymity set of 1331.

The quality of each member in the anonymity set isn't quite comparable, though. Monero is able to hide transaction amounts, which is helpful, but I tend to consider the quality of Monero anonymity-set-members to be lower on average, since many are probably owned by hosted wallets or other possible global adversaries.

See also

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy

P.S.
If services like ChipMixer operated based on blinded bearer certificates, then they'd be in many ways superior to both of the above mixing methods. Someone should work on this.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Yesterday, we made an aromatic pizza  as a sign of memory.

Nice. Needs more merit.


Also, lol at Craig and the copyright office. Life's good.

[fillippone]

Yesterday, we made an aromatic pizza  as a sign of memory.

Nice. Needs more merit.


Also, lol at Craig and the copyright office. Life's good.

What is that?
This is a true Italian Bitcoin Pizza!

as seen on an authentic italian crypto telegram group

https://twitter.com/LarryBitcoin/status/1131328520943128577

Disclaimer: I'm not shilling Bitcoin Pizza (BPA)!

[JSRAW]

Every Pizza is true Pizza, if it has BTC mark on it.

[nutildah]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

[fillippone]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

[Gyrsur]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi! 

[fillippone]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi! 

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

[Gyrsur]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  

[fillippone]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  

+1 Merit to cheer you up.
What about the graph in your Gold update?

[Gyrsur]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  

+1 Merit to cheer you up.
What about the graph in your Gold update?

open your eyes.   it's below of the pic.

[fillippone]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi! 

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you. 

+1 Merit to cheer you up.
What about the graph in your Gold update?

open your eyes.   it's below of the pic.

Javhol, I'm too lazy to click ze button. I vant to zee ze graph.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

$7,550 on Stamp as I type this message.

Would be nice to stop the bleed now to be honest.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  

You pay indirectly by just living in Europe.

I've been browsing jobs out of pure boredom and possibly a tiny bit of FOMO. And for the exact same position I would earn around four times as much in the US in gross salary. With net salary the gap widens even further, in favour of the US.
Even if I'd take a $1000 per month health care plan I'd still come out more than 3.5x ahead in the US. Down to 2.5~3x if I picked an apartment close to the company in a place like California. This number at least doubles to triples further for countries that are not the UK, Germany, France etc.

It's no wonder that Europe lags behind in every regard when it punishes entrepreneurs and employees so hard for ambition that the only sensible financial move to make is leaving Europe to its demise. Good thing for Europe that most scientists don't care about their real value and work for slave wages that don't match their skill, otherwise there would be nothing left here.

[Gyrsur]

Just a random observation:

This hour (4 PM Manila, 4 AM New York, 9 AM London) seems to be when its the quietest in this thread.

Europe is still waking up, the late night owls and early risers are all asleep in America...

Things are in full swing across the Asian continent, where there aren't many English speakers, and then of course Oceania, where we seemingly don't have any WO representatives (maybe bones if I'm not mistaken).

See? That was a solid half hour between posts. Nuts.

OK time to stop procrastinating and do my goddamned work.

Actually I am a not English speaking European, bored at work and bored in this slow thread!

go back to work lazy Spagetti Fresser says the Stechschritt Nazi!  

Ahah why that? You (ze germanz) are going to pay my debt in the end in this flawed EU!

I don't pay anything for you I'm official poor on FIAT like you.  

You pay indirectly by just living in Europe.

I've been browsing jobs out of pure boredom and possibly a tiny bit of FOMO. And for the exact same position I would earn around four times as much in the US in gross salary. With net salary the gap widens even further, in favour of the US.
Even if I'd take a $1000 per month health care plan I'd still come out more than 3.5x ahead in the US. Down to 2.5~3x if I picked an apartment close to the company in a place like California. This number at least doubles to triples further for countries that are not the UK, Germany, France etc.

It's no wonder that Europe lags behind in every regard when it punishes entrepreneurs and employees so hard for ambition that the only sensible financial move to make is leaving Europe to its demise. Good thing for Europe that most scientists don't care about their real value and work for slave wages that don't match their skill, otherwise there would be nothing left here.

But we don't have a retard like Trump as our POTUS and much less other retards with private weapons at home.

[Gyrsur]

$7,550 on Stamp as I type this message.

Would be nice to stop the bleed now to be honest.

"Mit dem Angriff des weekend pump wird das alles in Ordnung kommen!" 

[JSRAW]

https://www.coindesk.com/coinstar-expands-bitcoin-buying-service-to-cover-21-us-states

Supermarket kiosk network Coinstar has further expanded its bitcoin-buying service, adding around 100 new outlets and growing U.S. coverage to 21 states and the District of Columbia.

The service, offered through a partnership with blockchain startup Coinme, now allows individuals to buy bitcoin with cash at over 2,200 locations, Coinme announced Wednesday. As of last month, the service was available at around 2,100 locations in 19 states.

The service allows purchases using U.S. dollar bills, not coins, for any amount up to $2,500