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[STT]

Ireland being forced by the EU to have a physical barrier

The situation is bit a dangerous because of tensions and something close to milita armies which can be provoked into action by the reemergence of a hard border.   EU and UK would likely have two different tax rates, all kinds of border regulations required.   Health and safety nonsense regarding farm produce and feed given to cattle, a thousand different things.    
  If theres a hard border then it has to be policed some, which promotes the idea of those who oppose it bringing out their rifles to start taking shots on troops or personal manning the border, ambushing patrols and all sorts. Then Ireland risks losing 20 years of benefits since settling for peace, its already a process in difficulties enough without this additional burden.   Its a negative for Ireland and their people and its going to be a negative for the UK.
  Sadly nobody has come up with a firm process for handling border traffic without a hard border which is part of why EU is unlikely to change its stance on this issue which means no deal, its a deadlock really.    Governments are quite useless on sorting out their own mess, EU is generally advancing by absorbing everything in its path and its not easily dissolved.

SEAT 3cyl 1.0 litre

Could be argued to be more efficient which surely is a good thing, however they probably should have opted for a motorbike in that case for power to weight ratio.   A supercar can be embarrassed by even quite a cheap well made bike as it does the same with less, you get alot more wet though, etc.

 
50 and 30 day in similar place now, mexican stand off  

[Ibian]

It would be a nice irony if the outcome of Brexit was a break up of Great Britain with Scotland achieving independence and Northern Ireland joining Ireland while England and Wales stay in the EU.  

But when you play with matches, sometimes shit catches on fire, yo.

Sounds Just like the bitcoin forks fractal delusions

Fuck the EU dictatorship.

You wanted to say UK dictatorship over Northern Ireland and Scotland?

Brexit was orchestrated from outside of UK. With plan to weaken EU and UK. Divide and conquer. By those that EU is competitor, so mainly United States ( amazing ally we have) and China. Possibly someone else like Russia or Saudis. Those that planed it give a shit about UK and if will still have Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland. Not having it should actually better fit their agenda. They exactly knew what will happen. They knew all united Europe will stand behind Ireland and there will be no border on the island of Ireland ever again.

If youre saying Nigel Farage could have been helped/funded by external influences, then maybe. But theres no need for conspiracies. We have the bogey man. Its Nigel Farage, and he is definitely not afraid to be that bogey man.
As far as i know, WTO rules demand that Ireland/EU erect a physical border, in the absence of any deal/agreement. But actually wont happen. Not because of any stand, but because any official/s that are involved in Irish physical borders gets a bullet with their name on it from the IRA, and bombs start going off in London, Dublin and Brussels.

Well the UK, could do what ever the fuck they want then, they're a sovereign nation, it's Ireland who would have to obey demands from Brussels.

Uh no sir the brits are a small part of the EU. They are not a sovereign nation, and certainly no democracy.

Once they are out they can have their own border rules, it's Ireland being forced by the EU to have a physical barrier or am I somehow wrong?

They will not be allowed to leave.

[serveria.com]

Another pump brewing?   

[rebal15]

@rebal.........

I have no need to go in discussion with you and just keep it me= coiner ——> reward Will be sweet
You = ——> NOcoiner and Will always be a slave/pleb of the system.....
Probably at its very best a fool with a handfull of altcoin trash bags.....

Have Fun with what ever you do, and yes keep warning people in here that i’m doing no good or what ever .....

handfull of altcoin trash bags can be changed to handhalf of BTC trash bags at any moment.
Do you realize how fool you are? You know why? cuz you are a slave of a system.

[Arriemoller]

Porsche type 597 Jagdwagen, mid 50s during Swedish tests. We decided not to buy.
But it would be a cool Porsche to own.

[jojo69]

I'm actually rather partial to y'alls Strv tanks with the hydraulic suspension Arrie.

[HairyMaclairy]

Ireland is part of the EU.  

The EU controls its borders.  

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls. 

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

Sorry I don’t understand.   Can you explain it a different way?

If there is a border there needs to be guards on both sides of the border? Both on Northern Irish side and Irish side? 

[aesma]

I don't think of myself as having mood swings, aside from hating the winter and loving the summer, but I must say, a few days in the red, and I felt bad, a few days in the green, and I feel much better !

[aesma]

Ireland is part of the EU.  

The EU controls its borders.  

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls.  

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

Sorry I don’t understand.   Can you explain it a different way?

If there is a border there needs to be guards on both sides of the border? Both on Northern Irish side and Irish side?  

What I am saying is once the UK is NOT a part of the EU they are again able without any other countries input allowed to do there borders. They may not WANT a physical border with Ireland and Ireland MAY NOT want a physical border with Norther Ireland. This would normally mean the two countries agree and there is no Physical border needed.

The possibility is the EU says NO, Ireland we want you to have a physical border with them since they are not an EU member.

Ireland and the UK(Post Brexit) both have a physical border they don't want due to an rules from a group of other nations.

Ireland could only blame themselves for having a physical border if they are the ones putting it up.

It's not just the EU, if there is no customs agreement between the UK and Ireland, and no free trade agreement, then WTO rules mandate a border.

Brexiteers are all saying the UK will be fine under WTO rules, well then, follow the rules, or get slapped with sanctions.

[Arriemoller]

Ireland is part of the EU.  

The EU controls its borders.  

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls. 

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

There is no need for a border wall between EU and non EU countries. Denmark joined EU long before Sweden and we had tonally open borders back then, and Norway is not a member of the EU and we have totally open borders between Norway and Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Passport_Union

[Biodom]

1. Wow, that Hamilton vs Satoshi rap battle is pretty good...

2. On rotten banana and TNF...TNF is interesting/weird, but, unfortunately not a panacea.
One anecdote: Doctors had noted at some point that patients with very serious bacterial infections were paradoxically cured of tumors/cancers that they had. Hence, the investigation that resulted in TNF discovery.
Unfortunately, this cannot be put into practice for an obvious reason.
That said, nobody ever got poisoned by slightly rotten bananas, although super brown are just gross.

Gold got smashed today, but bitcoin was not...interesting...it is really an uncorrelated asset.
Maybe planB is right and bitcoin is controlled mainly by the underlying math in the form of the S/F.
I am a believer (for now).

[aesma]

Ireland is part of the EU. 

The EU controls its borders. 

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls. 

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

There is no need for a border wall between EU and non EU countries. Denmark joined EU long before Sweden and we had tonally open borders back then, and Norway is not a member of the EU and we have totally open borders between Norway and Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Passport_Union

They're part of the European Single Market today so it's not a problem. The UK aims to leave the single market.

[Arriemoller]

I'm actually rather partial to y'alls Strv tanks with the hydraulic suspension Arrie.

You mean this one?

[Arriemoller]

Ireland is part of the EU. 

The EU controls its borders. 

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls. 

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

There is no need for a border wall between EU and non EU countries. Denmark joined EU long before Sweden and we had tonally open borders back then, and Norway is not a member of the EU and we have totally open borders between Norway and Sweden.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Passport_Union

They're part of the European Single Market today so it's not a problem. The UK aims to leave the single market.

It's been like that since 1952 regardless of the different countries various and changing affiliations and memberships, and long before any single market.
The point is that it is neither unheard of nor hard to keep an open border. All you need is a will to do so.

[jojo69]

You mean this one?

the 103, yeah

really innovative design, and for 1963?? mind blowing really

For those not in the know;

>reliable autoloader gets off a 105mm round every 3 sec
>fixed gun and lack of a 4th crew (the loader) makes for an extremely low silhouette with radical frontal slope
>excellent track system, the entire vehicle can traverse 90 degrees in just over a second
>innovative hydraulic suspension to set gun elevation
>only MBT in the world that can be fought by one person, both the driver/gunner and the commander position have full mobility and gunnery controls
>and perhaps my favorite, 3rd crew member sits facing backward and has mobility controls, the vehicle can move just as fast in reverse.

[Arriemoller]

You mean this one?

the 103, yeah

really innovative design, and for 1963?? mind blowing really

I agree, but unfortunately impossible to upgrade due to the fixed fully automated canon.
Putting in a new and bigger canon would need a totally new vehicle, whereas a tank with a turret can just fit a new turret.
Thus it slowly became obsolete as the Russians started putting new and upgraded tanks with better armour and bigger canons in service.

[d_eddie]

I'm back. Before I catch up, I'd like to share some images collected during my trip. Here's my gf modeling against a background some of you might like

While some elements have been superimposed to protect the innocent, the wings are real and were actually hanging on the wall. They are a perfect fit for her <3

[HairyMaclairy]

Ireland is part of the EU.  

The EU controls its borders.  

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

It’s like saying the United States is “forcing” Canada to have border controls.  

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

Sorry I don’t understand.   Can you explain it a different way?

If there is a border there needs to be guards on both sides of the border? Both on Northern Irish side and Irish side?  

What I am saying is once the UK is NOT a part of the EU they are again able without any other countries input allowed to do there borders. They may not WANT a physical border with Ireland and Ireland MAY NOT want a physical border with Norther Ireland. This would normally mean the two countries agree and there is no Physical border needed.

The possibility is the EU says NO, Ireland we want you to have a physical border with them since they are not an EU member.

Ireland and the UK(Post Brexit) both have a physical border they don't want due to an rules from a group of other nations.

Ireland could only blame themselves for having a physical border if they are the ones putting it up.

Ok.  Let’s suppose in this new world England has a tax on cigarettes of £5 per packet and the EU has a tax of €1 per packet.

Do you really think that the UK would allow anyone to load up a lorry full of cigarettes in Dublin and drive it to Belfast and then on a ferry to Scotland?  Do you really believe that ?

Keep in mind that cigarette smuggling is said to be a major source of terrorist financing.

[d_eddie]

Here's a new round of the WOW (WO-Where?) game. I think it's going to be fairly difficult, at least until a few pixels are uncovered. However, the WO participants have already proven how good at this they are, so it might be cracked earlier than I imagine.

I have 5 smerits as of now, but I'm setting the prize for this round at a conservative 3 merits because I'm sure a couple of merits will go before I'm done catching up.

[Icygreen]

Breaking upwards, 10,725   feeling bullish BTC and bearish $hitcoin
CCMF's!