billyjoeallen
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February 22, 2014, 12:17:46 PM |
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What if this final capitulation that so many are waiting for just doesn't happen? It's no secret that the capitulators after every other crash lost out. People can read graphs. How long are the vultures gonna wait for these elusive cheap coins?
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"I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." -- Satoshi
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marcus_of_augustus
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February 22, 2014, 12:18:10 PM
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Au contraire dear fonz ... GS are notorious for recommending/downgrading assets against the best interests of their clients, for the very purposes of front-running them. Typically on the juiciest of plays. The very fact GS are covering bitcoin in a report is the news. Their statement that it is "too volatile for serious investors" ... means stay away until we establish our positions first. Volatility is life blood for these guys. |
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magicmexican
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February 22, 2014, 12:26:07 PM |
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Cmon Mark, pump these Goxcoins
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equipoise
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February 22, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
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Thanks for posting this, I didn't realise they were so close to launch already! They are opening after 2 days (on 24th of February). Today is the last day you can buy shares on IPO price directly from Neo&Bee ( https://www.lmb-holdings.com/) or around the IPO price from the Havelock exchange ( https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEE). More photos of their first branch: |
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HairyMaclairy
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February 22, 2014, 12:41:48 PM |
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Not interested in shares but have cancelled my sell side limit orders and flipping into hold mode (keeping buy side orders). I'll wait and see what happens Monday with this Neo experiment. If this goes well could be quite bullish. Thank you for posting details.
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TERA
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February 22, 2014, 12:42:35 PM |
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This is interesting. Didn't the central bank of Cyprus just issue an advisory about bitcoin? |
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fonzie
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February 22, 2014, 12:47:24 PM |
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@fonzie
The real question is, why are you holding and spending bitcoins at all?
I think it is because secretly you just have to have some of those lovely little digital numbers, and you don't really believe there value is going to zero.
Come on now, share it with us, secretly you are infatuated with Bitcoin aren't you? You know what people say about those the protest too loudly.
I´m a trader, i don´t care at all about the future of Bitcoin. If i´m bearish i go short, which turned out to be right in the last weeks. Right now i´m long until 620-640. I have to admit that Bitcoin was a great tool for doin black market transactions, but beside this i really don´t care at all about Bitcoin and no i don´t believe in it´s success, but if my TA says it´s goin up i will go long, plain and simple. |
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equipoise
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February 22, 2014, 12:50:28 PM |
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TERA: Yes. Here is the official Neo&Bee response to that: Official response regarding the CBC announcement surrounding Bitcoin:
Date: 10th February 2014
"As the CEO of a leading company that is building the infrastructure surrounding the Bitcoin technology (Neo), I believe the announcement made by The Central Bank of Cyprus surrounding the dangers of using Bitcoin was reasonable. Innovation is always upsetting, not innovating and being left behind as the world evolves has historically proven to be far more dangerous though; if not for vested interests, then for the future generations.
As a responsible company we naturally agree that anything to do with personal or corporate finances should be treated with extreme caution, including financial products offered by traditional financial institutions. That is why our business offers free education to everyone on what we offer and the Bitcoin technology, to enable individuals to make an informed decision for themselves. We do not and will never set any sales targets within our business, because we believe this practice should be avoided when handling the individual and corporate financial needs of our customers.
The fact that the Wall Street Journal, which is one of, if not the most respected financial publications in the world, responded to the Central Bank warning in a comical fashion speaks volumes of the warning's content:
“So, is the institution – accused of failing to control the economy on the tiny Mediterranean island and allowing rampant tax avoidance and money laundering - saying Bitcoin is illegal? Not quite. Instead it warns that there are big risks associated with using the currency.”
The response made by The Wall Street Journal echo’s the issues that we have faced when engaging with international banking partners; they have never expressed an issue with Bitcoin, however they have all considered Cyprus as a high risk country.
Regardless of the reluctance of both the Central Bank and CySEC to regulate the businesses surrounding this new technology, Neo are still committed to establishing a clear regulatory framework for Bitcoin based businesses to operate within. We are proposing a full regulatory framework to both of these regulators and directly to the government. Some work will be required from these regulators to act upon this proposal and no single entity understands this technology better than ourselves, that is why we are offering our resources to help the regulators fulfill their mandate and regulate businesses to protect the consumer.
Neo are already subjecting ourselves to internal policies for Anti-Money Laundering and Know Your Customer that are more strict than any European legislation which surrounds these matters. We have taken these steps to ensure that we build a transparent institution. Due to the nature of the technology we utilize throughout our business, this higher level of transparency is more achievable than anything that has come before us.
If people want to use Bitcoin they will find their own way to obtain them in an unregulated manner, even if Neo didn’t exist. Isn’t it better for them to acquire them via a regulated market, that offers some level of protection?
Kind regards,
Danny Brewster
CEO - LMB Subsidiaries Limited"
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HairyMaclairy
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February 22, 2014, 12:59:42 PM |
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Lol nice boat
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TERA
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February 22, 2014, 01:03:24 PM |
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Oh no sum ting wong with the gox pump again. Who couldve seen that one coming? What's worse is the sheep buying into stamp at 580 just because goxcoin was rallying, with clearly no room on the chart to go past 600 before the next slaughter. not sure whether to feel sorry for them, or not.
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ChartBuddy
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February 22, 2014, 01:04:03 PM |
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February 22, 2014, 01:08:32 PM |
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Au contraire dear fonz ... GS are notorious for recommending/downgrading assets against the best interests of their clients, for the very purposes of front-running them. Typically on the juiciest of plays. The very fact GS are covering bitcoin in a report is the news. Their statement that it is "too volatile for serious investors" ... means stay away until we establish our positions first. Volatility is life blood for these guys. +1 had to smile when i read that THEY say it is too volatile for investing for SERIOUS investors. Guess these guys are buying, especially with regarding to the TIMING of their assessment |
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HairyMaclairy
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February 22, 2014, 01:10:19 PM |
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Oh no sum ting wong with the gox pump again. Who couldve seen that one coming? What's worse is the sheep buying into stamp at 580 just because goxcoin was rallying, with clearly no room on the chart to go past 600 before the next slaughter. not sure whether to feel sorry for them, or not.
Markets are so predictable they either go up or down. It would be much more fun if they could move in three dimensions. |
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HairyMaclairy
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February 22, 2014, 01:13:15 PM |
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Au contraire dear fonz ... GS are notorious for recommending/downgrading assets against the best interests of their clients, for the very purposes of front-running them. Typically on the juiciest of plays. The very fact GS are covering bitcoin in a report is the news. Their statement that it is "too volatile for serious investors" ... means stay away until we establish our positions first. Volatility is life blood for these guys. +1 had to smile when i read that THEY say it is too volatile for investing for SERIOUS investors. Guess these guys are buying, especially with regarding to the TIMING of their assessment Surely not the Goldman Sachs that brought us the Abacus CDO which was one of the doggiest of the dogs? http://sevenpillarsinstitute.org/case-studies/goldman-sachs-and-the-abacus-deal |
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Bagatell
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February 22, 2014, 01:13:43 PM |
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Markets are so predictable they either go up or down. It would be much more fun if they could move in three dimensions.
Z=volume no? |
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TERA
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February 22, 2014, 01:16:09 PM |
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Oh no sum ting wong with the gox pump again. Who couldve seen that one coming? What's worse is the sheep buying into stamp at 580 just because goxcoin was rallying, with clearly no room on the chart to go past 600 before the next slaughter. not sure whether to feel sorry for them, or not.
Markets are so predictable they either go up or down. It would be much more fun if they could move in three dimensions. I suppose you could follow the order books which have a 3 dimensional graph over time like ChartBuddy posts. Then you could speculate about what type of orders will pop up at which levels and when. After all that is what this thread "wall observer" was originally all about. |
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JorgeStolfi
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February 22, 2014, 01:20:53 PM |
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Markets are so predictable they either go up or down. It would be much more fun if they could move in three dimensions.
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billyjoeallen
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February 22, 2014, 01:26:01 PM |
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49 cents down. Damn Tera, those sheep are gettin' slaughtered.
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Mythul
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February 22, 2014, 01:29:23 PM |
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The end is coming...
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