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February 22, 2014, 06:55:57 PM
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$580 was never a big resistance point, $616 was next logical retracement target IMO.



I can't see it past $707 level, but a break of $640 will still look like a short-term break from the down trend.


Can't really argue with that. Since I have stopped shorting, and become resolute in my belief that Bitcoin is going to grind down much lower over a painfully extended period of time, I have probably become a bit slack in my reading of the charts.....

.....like playing Poker if you don't have any skin in the game......would you be really bothered?
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February 22, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
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February 22, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
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Explanation
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February 22, 2014, 07:05:19 PM
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Mini rally was cute, goxcoin now is over 0.5
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February 22, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
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Got a pretty clear descending triangle going on...
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February 22, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?
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February 22, 2014, 07:10:00 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?

$0 became $270 instead of $100 pretty much
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February 22, 2014, 07:10:05 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?

Bull FUD about working Mt.Gox withdrawls

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ymb4r/some_light_on_the_horizon_for_gox/

Turned out to be wrong

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ymwzj/mtgox_still_authoring_invalid_transactions/
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February 22, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
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February 22, 2014, 07:19:53 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?

Fear.
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February 22, 2014, 07:23:01 PM
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Wait for Jorge's sleep time thingy and see if it holds...   Don't forget it will fizzle if Gox is quiet as a church mouse for another week.
The positive to take from this, if Gox does come up with a positive announcement - it will go nuts.   It's such a drag, lifting it, even slightly will produce huge jumps.

Looks like the prediction will be dead wrong again (less than 2 hours for the price to fall 240 CNY, from 3640 to 3396...) 

But perhaps this will be another sleepless night in China, and I will be excused because of that.

As for what will happen when MtGOX unclogs the drain: note that they already said that withdrawals would be limiited for some time.

The question is what wil happen after that time.  WIll they remove the limits, or declare insolvency?  Grin


Neither.

They will either go down or open up with limited withdrawals, in my humble opinion.

I think they probably will not disappear.

I have no doubt someone would probably buy it from MK, but I also reckon he can't sell, as he probably will have some things to hide, and due diligence would find them.

So - it will open, but with restrictions.  I think Andreas said 2-4 weeks was his guess, so within 2 weeks-ish we 'should' know if it is capitulation or a restricted opening.

With opportunities to sort out any solvency issues due to Gox's ability to buy their own exchanges coins so cheap, I can't see insolvency (unless they are completely stupid).  So - let's wait and see. 

I think it's better than 65/35 in favour of them opening, or I would have sold on Bitcoinbuilder by now.

For the market as a whole - Gox recovery will be pretty stellar, although it will itself be a wounded animal and may find not enough traders will want to risk it there in future, making it too tough to compete as they have done.

So - short term:  Limited fix and a re-opening of sorts (maybe with reduced fees) - price goes up on all exchanges, but things are volatile.
- medium term Gox slides into irrelevance and has too little market share to really matter at all.
- long term MK sells or Gox disappears when any whiff of another problem shows up.




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February 22, 2014, 07:25:46 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?

Fear.

of what?

Like all I have seen is someone on reddit say they thought gox has had sent a few btc someplace.

Then Gmaxwell saying they still have no idea wtf they are doing.
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February 22, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
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Jesus. Nice to find out after 10 months or so haha. Thanks.

Mine is UNchecked but still get warning. Edit: oops, i see I need to check it.

Haha noob.
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February 22, 2014, 07:30:20 PM
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Does someone wanna tell me what the fuck that rally was about?

Fear.

of what?

Like all I have seen is someone on reddit say they thought gox has had sent a few btc someplace.

Then Gmaxwell saying they still have no idea wtf they are doing.

I think at this point, the news of them doing something, even something retarded, can have a positive effect.
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February 22, 2014, 07:32:58 PM
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$580 was never a big resistance point, $616 was next logical retracement target IMO.



I can't see it past $707 level, but a break of $640 will still look like a short-term break from the down trend.


Can't really argue with that. Since I have stopped shorting, and become resolute in my belief that Bitcoin is going to grind down much lower over a painfully extended period of time, I have probably become a bit slack in my reading of the charts.....

.....like playing Poker if you don't have any skin in the game......would you be really bothered?

Yeah, I hear that. I can't resist shorting a downtrend, though. Smiley

Limit shorts triggered at $614 and up but closed already, too much upside risk at the moment.

The correlation to Gox trips me out. On the last big drop, Gox dropped 65%, Bitstamp dropped 16%. We just saw > 200% rise on Gox ... and a 10% rise on Stamp. I think the correlation may continually weaken if/when Gox pushes upwards (e.g. after withdrawals are enabled). That, combined with Gox - Stamp/BTC-E/BFX arbitrage opportunity for the typical GOXasset holders (i.e. not just the limited pool of Bitcoin Builder arbitragers), tells me that those expecting to go to the moon after Gox enables withdrawals may be in for a rude awakening.
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February 22, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2014, 07:52:46 PM by aminorex
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hourly downtrend is likely to reverse above 584, the intersection with the daily uptrend baseline since the 530 bottom.  15 minute uptrend is too steep to last more than another hour.  i'm guessing it turns down between 603 and 606. then reverses again at 585. gox seems likely to drop below 150 within the day before exceeding the day's high.
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February 22, 2014, 07:42:30 PM
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Former MtGox cold wallet?
Seems empty Cheesy Cheesy


https://blockchain.info/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q

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February 22, 2014, 07:42:48 PM
Last edit: February 22, 2014, 07:59:10 PM by Ivanhoe
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Ok we have seen the reaction on the rumor that Mt.Gox enables withdrawals now.  This confirms my thoughts that we will see a bit of a "silkroadcrash affect" when they actually really succeed to resume withdrawals. The price will violently shoot up then. This will be the start sign of a new rally to new highs. If however Mt.gox doesn't succeed in fixing their problems, we will have a slow slide down on the exchanges to maybe the 300 - 400 area.
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February 22, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
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Ok we have seen the reaction on the rumor that Mt.Gox enables withdrawals now.  This confirms my thoughts that we will see a bit of a "silkroadcrash affect" when they actually really succeed to resume withdrawals. The price will violently shoot up then. This will be the start sign of a new really to new highs. If however Mt.gox doesn't succeed in fixing their problems, we will have a slow slide down on the exchanges to maybe the 300 - 400 area.

I do not think they will resume anytime soon!
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February 22, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
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I do not think they will resume anytime soon!
Why?
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