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[ParabellumLite]

...deals with banks...

'nuff said

Ah yes, I forgot: bAnkS arE thEY EneMY. Or something along those lines.

You know, you can only change the world one step at at time. History is full of idealism-that-went-overboard, and I fear the vehicle this site serves as a community to, is one of them. It was a pipedream in 2013, it is still a pipedream now in 2017. Only the tech got even older and surpassed by competitors left and right. The illogical BTC rally that we saw this year will finally end so it appears, after BTC having been the worst thinkable posterboy for the cryptosphere during that time. From this point onwards, it's downhill for this valueless token.

But as always: make your own decisions. I am just here to witness the level of uninformedness and cognitive dissonance that was likely going on again. I have to say: I was not disappointed.

[luckygenough56]

Even if bitcoin ends up successful somehow, i think it will be heavily centralized. That's how the world works.

On bitcoin being the worst posterboy i can agree, i use ethereum to transfer money since a long time, btc is too much pain.

"illogical btc rally"

i didn't understand it at 2000, nor at 3000, nor at 5000...so 20k lol

[Dabs]

It is clear and true fanaticism what some of you guys are unfolding here, people like Torque and Jimbo being ahead of the column  .

I like them. They're the conservative bitcoin types. Also like JJG, for them the reserve crypto currency is still bitcoin. They trade mostly or almost exclusively only bitcoin.

I, on the other hand, am making my gains from alts, but at the end of the day (or week or month), I trade them for bitcoin.

Buy bitcoin and hodl is the least risky move you can make. Buy others and do something with them then back to bitcoin is how you make faster, but riskier gains (or losses).

Then if you're like roach, you don't cash out. You gold out (or silver out.)

[nikauforest]

I think what is happening is BTC dominance is going to test 39%.( It broke the short term uptrend in the last day. )  But who knows. As always it is best to keep an open mind and not be religious about BTC.

I posted the above on Dec. 20th. I think we are testing the 39% area. Please don't accuse me of being a shill. I am a big bitcoin believer. I use this chart to determine under or over performance of Bitcoin.

edit = we are at 41.7%

[Deeyoh]

All I know is the ripple pop will be pretty epic to watch.   The massive inflow for a safe haven to BTC will be nuts.

[philip2000uk]

on CB it has BCH now and says you should see BCH money or whatever if you had btc in august which i did but there's no BCH money in there

[Wekkel]

Bitcoin seems to have stalled a bit compared to the rest of the market. Total Market Cap is already climbing and has passed $560M now.

[svdleer]

Bitcoin seems to have stalled a bit compared to the rest of the market. Total Market Cap is already climbing and has passed $560M now.

Almost no volume on GDAX. Massive selling

[HairyMaclairy]

Reading all these comments here again about Ripple, and again the conclusion is the same: this is the valley of the clueless.

You people haven't read up, at all, about the tech, the deals with banks and other FI's - as well as the possibilities of the network. The only thing you do is regurgitate the same wrong assumptions you've been making ever since 2014/2015 - and I am not surprised seeing many old time believers in BTC falling back in their same mistakes as usual again. I just cannot wrap my around why some people can be so stubborn, and still not see when the evidence is just lying around everywhere around them.

It is clear and true fanaticism what some of you guys are unfolding here, people like Torque and Jimbo being ahead of the column  .

Wow is this a genuine Ripple shill in the wild?  What a rare and fabulous creature.  I have never seen one of these before.  We need to approach it carefully, lest we startle it and it takes flight.  I wonder if it has a nest nearby?

[ParabellumLite]

Reading all these comments here again about Ripple, and again the conclusion is the same: this is the valley of the clueless.

You people haven't read up, at all, about the tech, the deals with banks and other FI's - as well as the possibilities of the network. The only thing you do is regurgitate the same wrong assumptions you've been making ever since 2014/2015 - and I am not surprised seeing many old time believers in BTC falling back in their same mistakes as usual again. I just cannot wrap my around why some people can be so stubborn, and still not see when the evidence is just lying around everywhere around them.

It is clear and true fanaticism what some of you guys are unfolding here, people like Torque and Jimbo being ahead of the column  .

Wow is this a genuine Ripple shill in the wild?  What a rare and fabulous creature.  I have never seen one of these before.  We need to approach it carefully, lest we startle it and it takes flight.  I wonder if it has a nest nearby?

Nah, just an old supporter from times back and still holding so far. Interesting by the way how a proponent of X is always 'a shill' in this world. As if every BTC supporter would be a 'shill' as well.
People have differing interests, and some are more right than others: there is not much more to it.  The fact that you insist on calling me 'a shill' is further proof to the in group/out group cultism that this community has tended to show for years already.

[HairyMaclairy]

It’s up 50% today and this isn’t a pump, it’s organic growth ! 

[bitserve]

Reading all these comments here again about Ripple, and again the conclusion is the same: this is the valley of the clueless.

You people haven't read up, at all, about the tech, the deals with banks and other FI's - as well as the possibilities of the network. The only thing you do is regurgitate the same wrong assumptions you've been making ever since 2014/2015 - and I am not surprised seeing many old time believers in BTC falling back in their same mistakes as usual again. I just cannot wrap my around why some people can be so stubborn, and still not see when the evidence is just lying around everywhere around them.

It is clear and true fanaticism what some of you guys are unfolding here, people like Torque and Jimbo being ahead of the column  .

Wow is this a genuine Ripple shill in the wild?  What a rare and fabulous creature.  I have never seen one of these before.  We need to approach it carefully, lest we startle it and it takes flight.  I wonder if it has a nest nearby?

Nah, just an old supporter from times back and still holding so far. Interesting by the way how a proponent of X is always 'a shill' in this world. As if every BTC supporter would be a 'shill' as well.
People have differing interests, and some are more right than others: there is not much more to it.  The fact that you insist on calling me 'a shill' is further proof to the in group/out group cultism that this community has tended to show for years already.

It basically depends on where you are. If I went to go to the ripple thread (is there such a thing) to shill about BTC, yes, I would be a BTC shill as well.

You know this is the BITCOIN WO, don't you?

[ssmc2]

Ripple the token is, and always will be, what every other alt is- a way for others to try and take your BTC so they have more.

[Lopumbo]

It’s up 50% today and this isn’t a pump, it’s organic growth !  

BTC at 1000$ was organic, the rest was pure pump&dump, don't be naive
Every! time BTC was declining there was a massive pump out of a sudden (tether?!) and it went on for days

7tx/s, 25$ fees and 8 year old tech are history old man, the future is now and the market has decided

or just ride the wave if you are a believer, i'm just playing around and made 50% more btc in the last two days

[HairyMaclairy]

Has Vitalik congratulated Ripple yet?

[AlcoHoDL]

Nah, just an old supporter from times back and still holding so far. Interesting by the way how a proponent of X is always 'a shill' in this world. As if every BTC supporter would be a 'shill' as well.
People have differing interests, and some are more right than others: there is not much more to it.  The fact that you insist on calling me 'a shill' is further proof to the in group/out group cultism that this community has tended to show for years already.

I think it has to do with one's frequency of posts about coin A, in a thread that talks about coin B. It's not about what one posts, but where he/she posts it.

This is a general comment, not about you.

Edit: bitserve beat me to it.

[HairyMaclairy]

or just ride the wave if you are a believer, i'm just playing around and made 50% more btc in the last two days

Now that’s good work.  Well done. 

[txtravwill]

Koreans are best off buying Bitcoin right now so their funds will be safe and easily taken with them during any mass evacuations from war.  Russia refueling North Korea and getting caught just now is just the start of more instability...

I wouldn’t count on Ripple liquidity and support.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Weren't we just at 15000? These fake breakouts are playing havoc on my speculation senses.

[ragnar0k]

Has Vitalik congratulated Ripple yet?

had to lol this
But seriously, wtf is going on with ripple, It seems like it is all new capital coming in